looks like hatton Vs No joke

Chris the fighter · Post by **Chris the fighter** » 11 Aug 2004, 09:35

As its now confirmed I guess the only good thing that will come out of it
is that the winner (probably Hatton ) will be IBF No. 1 and that the IBF
do force their mandatories on their champions more then other world
bodies. No joke biggest wins are against totally shot fighters. Ivan Robinson and Terron Millet and the useless though brave Chucky T. In his first fight back after Mitchell he beat somebody on their pro debut. Guys I think it could be worse.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 11 Aug 2004, 09:36

Yeah, but is Hatton going to take it if it goes to purse bids, or are we going to have the same merry go round.

J · Post by J » 11 Aug 2004, 09:44

and its ppv

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 11 Aug 2004, 09:53

J wrote:and its ppv

Hah well you can shove that one right up your fart box.

(no offence J) 8)

J · Post by J » 11 Aug 2004, 09:55

ive got a big tv and despite my fat arse it wouldnt fit, it was a joke Kil!!!
cant think they would get anyone to pay for this.

its vilches all over again.
A demotivated hatton manages to outpoint a durable but limited oppoenent, god im depressed with all this.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 11 Aug 2004, 10:23

Bloody PPV! To watch that crap. Not on your nelly mate. I'll go watch it in a pool hall for free.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 11 Aug 2004, 10:26

Better off not watching it, the more that do that the better.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 11 Aug 2004, 10:26

if its a easy fight Hatton will probably fight again december/January

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 11 Aug 2004, 10:28

Against another no hoper.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 11 Aug 2004, 10:35

007 wrote:Better off not watching it, the more that do that the better.

Hard to write about a fight you ain't seen, though not impossible I hasten to add....

J · Post by J » 11 Aug 2004, 10:38

what like a certain sun columnist does you mean.
speaking of which see he was rambling on in boxing news "quantifying" that he said tyson in two but if it went further then willliams would win...

DONT fornicating LIE COLIN, we all saw you on ringside giving Danny no chance you plonker. Jesus you were just in tv writing him off then trying to take plaudits for predicting it.

I cant stand that man.

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 11 Aug 2004, 10:43

A very bitter boxing journalist is Mr Hart. He also has the worst wig in boxing.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 11 Aug 2004, 10:44

I can think of a worse one. But I wont divulge. I think we ALL know who I mean.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 11 Aug 2004, 10:48

No way Dave, I know who you are on about. The unmentioned one knows who the current fighters are, and doesn't slag off everyone fighting born after 1950.

J · Post by J » 11 Aug 2004, 10:50

DAVID HAYE DOES NOT WEAR A WIG

in serioussness stop guys could stop me ever going again, Im such a naughty kid whenever I hear of people wearing wigs I get this incredible urge to lift them offending rug and slap them a la bennie hill ...how funny would that be

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 11 Aug 2004, 10:59

Frankly I hope Hatton somehow gets beaten. Then he can slide off...and we don't have to talk about the pie-faced nonce any longer...

It still baffles me we all spend so much time discussing a domestic fighter who is basically just having a laugh at his true fans expense.

20,000 buy tickets to pay him money to fight someone Dot Cotton could go the distance with.... and he just pockets it and lines up the next one.

How Hatton actually has any FANS is quite odd in my opinion. Thank god for the unknowledgable masses out there that buy the tickets and don't know any better.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 11 Aug 2004, 11:04

Loftgroov wrote:Frankly I hope Hatton somehow gets beaten. Then he can slide off...and we don't have to talk about the pie-faced nonce any longer...

It still baffles me we all spend so much time discussing a domestic fighter who is basically just having a laugh at his true fans expense.

20,000 buy tickets to pay him money to fight someone Dot Cotton could go the distance with.... and he just pockets it and lines up the next one.

How Hatton actually has any FANS is quite odd in my opinion. Thank god for the unknowledgable masses out there that buy the tickets and don't know any better.

Anyone remember when Howard Eastman entered the ring in Norwich to fight someone whose name escapes me now (he was that bad). Eastman wore Norwich City colours and got a huge reception. And Richie Woodhall always fought in front of packed houses in Telford, many of them West Brom supporters (Richie always made sure he plugged The baggies).
Just goes to show, ally yourself to a football team and support is guaranteed.
Sad, really.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 11 Aug 2004, 11:06

As I've said before, Hatton is virtually the official mascot for Man City, he represents the team and the city, and that is why he is one of the biggest draws in boxing.

In terms of actual bums on seats, how many other fighters worldwide can guarantee 16,000 arses on seats for wrestling with a deckchair. Tyson couldn't manage more than 12,000 ticket sales in his last event.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 11 Aug 2004, 11:09

RIGHT lets cut to the chase. DOES THIS MEAN HATTON WILL DEFINITELY GET A SHOT AT TSZYU/MITCHELL?

these ibf final eliminators do tend to be just that in fairness.

i wonder if they'll inexplicably try and dodge the true world title fight.

Chris the fighter · Post by **Chris the fighter** » 11 Aug 2004, 11:10

Well Loftgroov he appeals to fans because he seems like an ordinary bloke with no pretensions, fame has not changed him in any way or it seems it hasn't changed him. And he has an exciting style of boxing all action. From outside Manchester his cult may seem strange but I think he appeals to the ordinary people there.
He has has a bad 2004 thats for sure when after the Tackie fight everyone
thought he will go in with true world class it hasn't happened. But he seems to honset to me to be having a laugh at his fans expensce he seems one fighter who actually is in tune with his fans and is disapointed that he is not giving them what they really want.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 11 Aug 2004, 11:11

It may well mean Hatton gets the SHOT but if the fight doesn't go directly to purse bids can Mitchell or Tyszu be satisfied financially and would Hatton travel.

They couldn't satisfy Harris, Tsyzu in victory re-establishes himself top three P4P. The money would have to be MASSIVE because:

Tszyu v Gatti is mASSIVE

Tsyzu v Mayweather is MASSIVE

Tszyu v COTTO is MASSIVE

Tsyzu v SPINKS is Massive

Tsyzu v JUDAH II is massive

Kostya has options. Hatton is just one of them.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 11 Aug 2004, 11:12

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
007 wrote:Better off not watching it, the more that do that the better.
Hard to write about a fight you ain't seen, though not impossible I hasten to add....

Better still dont write about it! The less publicity this pile of $hit matchup gets the better.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 11 Aug 2004, 12:01

Well, Hatton is still one of the biggest fighters in the country, these fights have to be covered anyway, and I have to be objective about his performance. It will be interesting to see just how good he looks against Stewart, whether he baloons in between, and how motivated he looks in there.

It's very sad, but Hatton appears to be going backward. Stewart is a step back from Tackie for sure.

Wilko · Post by **Wilko** » 11 Aug 2004, 12:27

Below is taken from Sportinglife.com - can't believe the quotes from Warren and Hatton - they are both full of shit.

Ricky Hatton believes victory over Mike Stewart in Manchester on October 1 will earn him the biggest fight of his career.

Hatton squares off with the American at the MEN Arena in a final eliminator for the IBF light-welterweight title.

The 25-year-old is gunning for a showdown with either Kostya Tszyu or Sharmba Mitchell - who contest the IBF belt in the autumn.

Hatton said: "It doesn't matter who I fight, you just know you're fighting the best.

"Kostya is considered the best in the division and rightly so. If he beats Mitchell he proves that.

"Tszyu is considered one of the best pound-for-pound fighters out there and he's rightly ranked at the top of the pile."

Hatton can expect to move closer to his dream date by overcoming the 26-year-old from Delaware.

Stewart appeared on Hatton's undercard last April and was decked three times on his way to a points defeat at the hands of Mitchell.

But Stewart has only lost twice in 40 professional contests and for that he will earn Hatton's respect.

Hatton said: "The way I fight and the way Stewart fights means there will be fireworks.

"It's clear now how it's going to go - it will be exciting while it lasts. No matter who I fight I always want to be entertained.

"Mitchell has fought Stewart - and Stewart did quite well. Sharmba threw everything at him and he just kept on coming. Stewart was the one coming on strong at the end."

Hatton has suffered a number of setbacks as he bids to establish himself as the biggest player in the light-welterweight division.

He was originally slated to fight Vivian Harris in October but the WBA champion withdrew after announcing himself dissatisfied with his purse.

But the Manchester-based fighter believes Harris' decision to quit has significantly increased his chances of dominating the light-welterweight division.

He added: "I was disappointed at first but to be honest it has worked out better.

"If I win it I get to fight the best out there and if I win both I'm the number one. It has turned out to be a better scenario."

Promoter allegedly, who has been criticised in the last 12 months for failing to deliver Hatton world-class bouts, is hoping the Hitman fights Tszyu for a shot at the world title.

"It's a great fight for Ricky," Warren said.

"Harris fell through purely down to financial reasons, but this is exciting.

"Stewart gave Mitchell a lot of problems, coming on strong in the latter part of the fight. Stewart has only lost twice, but has been involved in some good fights.

"I think if anybody is going to fight Kostya, now's the time to do it. He has been out for a while with an injury and it will be difficult for him to get over it."

Lefthookhappy19 · Post by **Lefthookhappy19** » 11 Aug 2004, 15:15

They just aren't serious. Fighting for the IBF No.1 spot? Hatton will never fight Mitchell or Tszyu. For a start Tszyu will almost certainly move up in weight in whether he wins or loses and their will be a lot more lucrative offers for him than the peanuts that FW offers. Say Mitchell wins, then what? He had the big chance to make that fight a few months ago and failed miserably. Frank made the point that he didn't think Mitchell was worth the money he was asking for, what will have changed? Same with Harris. Does Frank think the people are fornicating stupid? These fights will never happen, EVER. Frank is small time. He just can't deliver.

Ricky doesn't seem unhappy with him not fighting for a title, he's taken it pretty well in fact, too well. No signs of anger at Frank for failing patheticly again. He's comfortable, he's probably sitting in his livingroom with a big smug grin thinking he has it easy for at least the next 5 months, laughing at the chumps who are going to go along and watch him and line his and Franks pockets, easy money.

I hope he gets KTFO in the 1st for this bullshit. I was convinced Harris was going to beat him anyway if that fight was going to go through, Harris has at least 5 times the hunger for it than Ricky has. Run Ricky run, you'll get yours someday, you can't run from the top guys forever (or can he?).

Its remarkable, everyone talks about the lightwelterweight division being the deepest most talent filled in boxing YET Ricky Hatton after 36 fights has still to face a single top ten fighter. They are all afraid of him of course and price themselves out of fights with him, every one of them