Hatton Vs No Joke

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 11 Aug 2004, 15:50

Anyone going?
I think this is possibly the first time nobody on any forum has expressed any interest in the fight - could this be the Hatton fight that dosent pack the MEN?

Smit · Post by **Smit** » 11 Aug 2004, 16:26

I hope it is the fight that barely fills half the arena ....

Can't see why anyone would want to go and see this. Not even die hard fans can be happy with this fight.

And for the first time i really hope he loses and gets KO'd

Grey · Post by **Grey** » 11 Aug 2004, 17:07

I can't believe Total Joke is ranked IBF #4 ... in front of Floyd Mayweather of all people.

Zhuge · Post by **Zhuge** » 11 Aug 2004, 17:47

It might not be a class matchup, but to be honest, it will make for an entertaining brawl that will hopefully end up on American TV.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 11 Aug 2004, 17:48

Is Showtime televising this crap?

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 11 Aug 2004, 17:52

bennie wrote:Is Showtime televising this crap?

i dont think showtime will ever show a card on a friday from England. proably using there money to buy the williams fight.

scurlaruntings · Post by **scurlaruntings** » 11 Aug 2004, 17:56

can someone please tell me whats the point? lets go through the parameters: 1st hatton FW cannot make hatton mitchell.mitchell holds the IBF belt so this could have been hattons real shot at a world title.now haton is fighting for the mandatory spot..where is the logic? even if he does win how will FW enforce hatton mitchell or hatton zoo.when zoo has clearly said over on fightnews he WILL NOT FACE HATTON..plus FW couldnt bring us hatton mitchell in the summer?

this brings us to the WBA title.rather than let the fight go to purse bids FW removes hatton from the WBA rankings n hatton would rather forfeit his purse than share purse parity with harris.naturally its harris shot to call as his the champ.FW doesnt agree as harris doesnt seel tickets.frankly this is not the point.the challenger can NEVER dicate to the champion.that makes little to no sense at all.

this now brings us to the WBC strap.main events has already said gattin will not fight hatton on his or FW terms despite the large purse FW offered.naturally gatti is the champion and his track record is proven plus his massive attraction world wide not just in manchester so i have to agree with gary shaw.gatti has bigger fish to fry to IE mayweather zoo dorin rematch etc.

this now brings us to the WBO.hatton has already forfeited his mandatory slot years ago when he failed to enforce his number 1 position n challenge corley.he certainly was not going to fight zab for the belt and waited for the interim fight against pinto.pinto hatton never happened n now cotto n pinto r fighting for the vacant belt.will FW be willing to make hatton pinto again? i think not.also will FW risk his poster boy agaist bob arums super star miguel cotto..i sincerely doubt it.so how DOES HATTON INTEND TO BE A WORLD CHAMP OR FIGHT SOMEONE WHO IS RANKED IN THE TOP 10 WHEN HIS PROMOTER CONSISITENTLY CANNOT MAKE BIG FIGHTS? HOW ABOUT WITTER HATTON ANYONE? witters pedigree is proven and he is a triple champ including the EBU.so y have we been served mitchells leftovers?????????

Zhuge · Post by **Zhuge** » 11 Aug 2004, 17:58

bennie wrote:Is Showtime televising this crap?

Don't think so. Showtime only shows cards that are the first Saturday of the month now, along with bi-weekly Thursday night ShoBox cards.

Grey · Post by **Grey** » 11 Aug 2004, 18:04

Stewart says he's fighting a tune-up on August 26th ... let's pray he loses.

scurlaruntings · Post by **scurlaruntings** » 11 Aug 2004, 18:40

GreyMinus wrote:Stewart says he's fighting a tune-up on August 26th ... let's pray he loses.

yes let us pray! our father who art in heaven hatton is a jerk.

maverick · Post by **maverick** » 11 Aug 2004, 19:31

Wales wrote:

could this be the Hatton fight that dosent pack the MEN?

Let's hope so, cos a pain in the pocket is probably the only thing that would truly hurt the team and make them pay attention.

Having read the letter from Ndou callin for a fight, which would have been interesting, how disappointing to then see the bout is with "wot a joke".

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 11 Aug 2004, 19:36

Agree with everything except .....

dorin rematch etc

Quite clearly a mismatch from the first bell, hell isnt gatti a little overrated, he has a great chin and heart but struggled with branco and it wasnt quite a prime Ward.

Let's hope so, cos a pain in the pocket is probably the only thing that would truly hurt the team and make them pay attention.

I think it might actually hurt hattons feelings in a way, he wont like to see his suppot waining, i do think he wants the fights but warren wont risk his cash cow to make 'em... just my opinion.

states · Post by **states** » 11 Aug 2004, 19:39

GreyMinus wrote:Stewart says he's fighting a tune-up on August 26th ... let's pray he loses.

Well, he certainly could do, going on the little I've seen of him...... Were he fighting anyone of note. But when you're talking about a guy whose last fight was against a debutant, it probably ain't that likely.

For Gods sake, I know next to nothing about boxing, really, and even I know this fight is total shite.

maverick · Post by **maverick** » 11 Aug 2004, 19:46

Wales wrote:

hell isnt gatti a little overrated, he has a great chin and heart but struggled with branco and it wasnt quite a prime Ward.

Indeed but an good match for hatton nevertheless.

it might actually hurt hattons feelings in a way, he wont like to see his suppot waining, i do think he wants the fights but warren wont risk his cash cow

Agree again but then the "cow's" got legs and needs to think about stepping.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 11 Aug 2004, 19:51

a good fight for hatton / boxing fans, gatti has the style to go to war with hatton, iron chin and war-type mentallity. It'll prob never happen thogh

Neri · Post by **Neri** » 11 Aug 2004, 20:04

This is the biggest dissapointment of the year for me. Stewart may be a brawler but its not the fight i wanted to see Hatton in. Whoever above me said 'mitchell leftovers' was dead right. Is allegedly incapable of landing these big fights? Will Hatton lose his zest and slip up against Stewart? I hope not

Cannibal · Post by **Cannibal** » 11 Aug 2004, 20:21

Hatton won't slip up, he'll retire with a 102-0 record without a major fight on the record.

Smit · Post by **Smit** » 12 Aug 2004, 05:20

Wales wrote: I think it might actually hurt hattons feelings in a way, he wont like to see his suppot waining, i do think he wants the fights but warren wont risk his cash cow to make 'em... just my opinion.

Then why did he give up his #1 mandatory shot at Harris if he wanted the big fights? He's greedy, all about money, no heart and desire.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 12 Aug 2004, 05:31

I think the fact that Hatton was willing to sacrifice his #1 position, means that allegedly cannot be blamed. Remember, it was Ricky who was slagging off his own promoter for not getting him the big fights, so why would Hatton then cave into pressure from Warren if Frank tried to convince him to forget about the fight

I have to say having re-read Harris' statement from his website, that he is living in a dreamworld.

He seems to think boxing is fair, and that the champion always gets more than the challenger, well that might be the case in an ideal world, but not the real world. Just ask Felix Sturm, or Bernard Hopkins who I seem to recall got less than Trinidad, and will be getting less than Oscar.

Lefthookhappy19 · Post by **Lefthookhappy19** » 12 Aug 2004, 10:40

Trinidad and Oscar are massive exceptions to the normal boxing rules though, multiple weight world champions having faced many top fighters in their career with their whole countrys behind them. Rickys a local phenomenon looking for his first big fight and world title. Their is no parallel at all with guys like Oscar and Trinidad with Hatton.

Lets look at it the other way round, Sturm and Hopkins where willing to take less money to fight Oscar and Trinidad knowing if they won their reputations would be massively enhanced. Rickys not even willing to go 50-50 with Harris, it seems for Ricky Hatton to take a fight he must have every single little advantage going in his favour, it stinks of no confidence.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 12 Aug 2004, 10:44

Or just plain greed. There are parallels, I can think of many fights where a champion got less than the challenger. There's a difference between being a champion and a draw, you can have a title belt and be virtually invisible.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 12 Aug 2004, 11:03

Witter would be a much better match than Stewart - no question about that cant see why that fight cant be made - the excuse was american TV didnt want it - well they arent having this one and didnt televise hattons last joke fight did they? More bullshit from SN & FW.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 12 Aug 2004, 11:09

I think Hatton and Warren would rather kill one another in a mutual suicide pact than give Witter a payday and a shot at Hatton.

steve richards · Post by **steve richards** » 12 Aug 2004, 11:17

I don't think Hatton is interested in the belts or glory (obviously because he's kept the WBU), who in there wright mind would give up the No 1 position with the WBA for a fight with Stewart, I thing Warren has delivered Hatton a good fight in Harris one which Hatton should have won but i feel he aint interested, he just loves the money.

csmith · Post by **csmith** » 13 Aug 2004, 06:23

jmcdonnell,this was exactly what i was trying to explain to you ref. hatton-harris,the fact that hatton is the attraction-harris is most def not,glad you agree now................

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