Who Would Win - Tyson '86 vs. Foreman '94

[John Galt]

Collins - are you still whining to the moderators and trying to get everyone who disagrees with you and Thomas Hauser and Bert Sugar banned from the board? Tell us how you whined to the moderators until you got Granberry barred from the board. Maybe since you feared Granberry to the point that you got him barred, you can help help us all to understand why you and Buzz and Bert Sugar think boxers fear each other? LOL.

[Collins2000]

Collins - are you still whining to the moderators and trying to get everyone who disagrees with you and Thomas Hauser and Bert Sugar banned from the board? Tell us how you whined to the moderators until you got Granberry barred from the board. Maybe since you feared Granberry to the point that you got him barred, you can help help us all to understand why you and Buzz and Bert Sugar think boxers fear each other? LOL.

DaveV, if you had any intelligence at all you would know granberry isn't barred.

He left because everyone laughed at him.

Question for you. Why do you have two accounts on here? That's sort of weak aint it?

[John Galt]

Collins or is it Burt? Granberry was barred because of your constant whining and crying. He might be able to return now, I don't know. Man up, quit whining to the mods. Just accept that some of us don't worship at the alter of Burt Sugar, and Thomas Hauser like you do.

How would you know anything about "weak?" You define "weak". Whining = Weak.
I'm sure everything I write is being sent to the moderators by you. I would expect nothing less. You have already shown your stripes, you won't change.

[Collins2000]

Collins or is it Burt? Granberry was barred because of your constant whining and crying. He might be able to return now, I don't know. Man up, quit whining to the mods. Just accept that some of us don't worship at the alter of Burt Sugar, and Thomas Hauser like you do.

How would you know anything about "weak?" You define "weak". Whining = Weak.
I'm sure everything I write is being sent to the moderators by you. I would expect nothing less. You have already shown your stripes, you won't change.

DaveV, you didn't answer my question.

Why do you post under two usernames?

[John Galt]

Collins, why do you whine and cry all the time but never post about boxing?

[Goodnight, Irene]

Two distinct personas in Dave V & Mr. Galt as well, I noticed. I guess Galt is his, "Serious" Face

Collins, I forget the specific numbers involved...was it 119-109, Norton?

[Collins2000]

Collins, why do you whine and cry all the time but never post about boxing?

DaveV, are you totally stupid or just acting?

Are you saying the majority of my posts in here are not about boxing?

If so, I can well understand how you came up with your 119 - 109 scorecard for Ali - Nortonm (2).

[Collins2000]

Two distinct personas in Dave V & Mr. Galt as well, I noticed. I guess Galt is his, "Serious" Face

Collins, I forget the specific numbers involved...was it 119-109, Norton?

Yeah, GI, I guess he uses "John Galt" to try and pretend there is one reasonable person who doesn't think "DaveV" is a total boofhead.

Don't worry though. His "John Galt" persona is approaching a mental meltdown.

More fun for the lads...



PS. Yes, 119 - 109 was the scorecard he turned in. And the clown claims to train boxers. He must mean the breed of dog.

[John Galt]

Collins, I'm sure you are an experienced fighter, it is obvious by the crybaby attitude you showed with Gran. LOL. You'd quit and want the other guy DQ'ed if he gave you a dirty look. Nah, you probably don't claim to be a boxer, you probably sit around with a silly looking hat on and puff a cigar like your hero.

And your little girlfriend Irene couldn't figure out which glove went on which hand.

You two seem a little paranoid. You accuse everybody of being being someone else. Well collie, keep crying to the mods, maybe you can get all of us who don't agree with you banned, then you can act like you know something to the people who are left. LOL

[Collins2000]

DaveV, are you suggesting you have not posted as both "DaveV" and "John Galt"?

[John Galt]

Collins, Are you suggesting you aren't the crybaby whiner who got Granberry barred? Stop whining and post about boxing. LOL, you don't know one thing about boxing do you? LOL.

Who I am or am not is driving you nuts isn't it crybaby?

[Collins2000]

Collins, Are you suggesting you aren't the crybaby whiner who got Granberry barred? Stop whining and post about boxing. LOL, you don't know one thing about boxing do you? LOL.

Who I am or am not is driving you nuts isn't it crybaby?

DaveV, I will take that as an admission by you that you do use multiple usernames in here.

I think I can rest my case there.

[John Galt]

crybaby collie, you can rest anything you want - you are insignificant to me. I don't care what you think or do about anything. I am going to put you on ignore...LOL...Go cry to the moderators! LOL.

Obviously I am an obsession for you. You want to know who I am, what I do, and you'll never know... Your case has been rested, we all know that you are a fraud who knows nothing about boxing. Now you are showing yourself to be a pitiful stalker who is obsessed with me. Go away.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Obivously, when one username is run out of town for posting one of the unintentionally greatest comedy scorecards of all-time, it makes sense to take on another.

Rumour has it even Patricia Jarman-Manning held her hand quietly to her mouth upon seeing Dave's card for Ali-Norton II...worrying times, indeed

[John Galt]

irene you are as insignificant as collins. I have zero respect for anything you write about boxing. You sad little person.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Of course you do...I'm just a cooky fella who had Ali-Norton II a close-run affair --- no wonder you don't respect my musings

[John Galt]

Irene, you are the type who probably had Holmes-Ali "a close run affair." You wouldn't know a jab from an uppercut. Why would I care about your opinion of anything? LOL.

[Goodnight, Irene]

As we say in this neck of the woods --- give yourself an uppercut, Davey.

Care to post that breakdown of your Ali-Norton II card once more, mate, or are we still a li'l raw?

[John Galt]

irene, why care so much about me? Why do you care who I am? Why do you obsess over me? Haha, I don't care anything about you! lol. Forget about me, I am just another person who thinks you are a nerd. I'm sure you have met plenty of those in your life!

[Collins2000]

The only thing that was funnier than DaveV defending one of his ridiculous scorecards was the following exchange...

granberry: blah, blah, blah, when I was training Harold Johnson, blah, blah, blah

daveV: You train fighters? Hey, cool, so do I!

Oh, man, I fell off my chair that afternoon.

[John Galt]

LOL, almost as funny as when collins showed his true colors and cried to the mods when Granberry made him look stupid everyday. collins cried so much that the mods finally barrred Gran to make collins stop whining. This is a true story, unlike collins' stories which are fabricated! LOL.

[Robinson]

Why is mummy and daddy yelling...?

[observer1]

LOL, almost as funny as when collins showed his true colors and cried to the mods when Granberry made him look stupid everyday. collins cried so much that the mods finally barrred Gran to make collins stop whining. This is a true story, unlike collins' stories which are fabricated! LOL.

Never got into those "Discussions" (if you can call them that).

But imo, only person who granberry made to look stupid was himself.

[Atticus1138]

This article suggests Tyson was afraid...

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/boxing-ne ... zo1609.php

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

This article suggests Tyson was afraid...

http://www.spam/boxing-news/lotierzo1609.php

- Couldn't access the article, but Frank Loteirzo is the writer claiming to have witnessed Tyson's meltdown at the mere mention of King suggesting they fight.

Keeping in mind that plenty of people had built up a lot of animus towards Tyson by that point and boxing writers are generally quite loose with facts and innuendo, and that this is post prison Tyson, heavily medicated and a boxer in legend only, it's not a fair representation of how an 86 Tyson would go about his business.

The reasons these fantasy bouts often quickly deteriorate into slinging matches is because many either willfully or cluelessly ignore the parameters set for the proposed dustup. 94 Foreman was not the best version of the comebacking Foreman, that was the 91 version of George who was noticeably quicker and stronger. 94 Foreman bounced some early rights off of Moorer to no avail that in 91 were knocking Mr. Field into the ropes. Big George was handily being outboxed by Moorer who can be forgiven for thinking this was a walk in the park it was so easy.

86 Tyson was near peak and vastly superior to any version of Moorer who ever existed. 94 Foreman was also coming off a comprehensive loss to Morrison and followed Moorer with a disputed majority decision over Schulz. Even a tea reader could pick the winner without the the prop and mumbo jumbo.