Breaking news: Manny blames allegedly

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 12 Aug 2004, 16:42

WBA 140lb champion Vivian Harris' manager Emanuel Steward has spoken out about his disappointment in the breakdown in negotiations with Ricky Hatton and allegedly for a shot at Harris' title belt. "allegedly's dictator-like attitude and 'my way or no way' attitude was the breaking point" said Hall of Famer Steward. "He didn't want the Harris-Hatton title fight to go to purse bids, now costing Hatton a shot at the world title. Contrary to many media reports, we decided in conjunction with Main Events that since Hatton is a good boxer we'd even offer him a 50/50 split. That's unheard of when typically the champ gets 75-80%, but they still turned it down. Warren wanted to do the deal entirely his way, when the pressure was on he pulled Hatton from the ratings. Now, exactly as we predicted Hatton will face yet another fighter in October. It's a shame because the British fans are some of the best in the world, and they deserve much more. Ricky Hatton had always been one of my favorite fighters to watch, and I suspect Ricky Hatton has the heart of a lion, but Warren is so demanding and stubborn, it's now cost Ricky a shot at the world title. Harris and Hatton both really wanted this fight. Our camps had even communicated personally. It's very disappointing."
"As far as Vivian's future is concerned," continued Steward, "I have just got off the phone with our promoter, Main Events, and learned that the WBA is making Floyd Mayweather Jr. Vivian's mandatory now that Hatton has renounced the position. Mayweather has repeatedly said he wants to step up to the 140 pound class and fight for the championship and now he has his opportunity to fight Vivian for the title. Vivian would love that fight, and now it is up to Mayweather to step up to the plate."

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Grey · Post by **Grey** » 12 Aug 2004, 17:04

Didn't Warren say Urkal was going to be Vivian's manditory? It's funny how Harris is going to make an assload of money against Mayweather.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 12 Aug 2004, 17:07

Eiuther way, Warren just can't deliver the big fights any more.

Smit · Post by **Smit** » 12 Aug 2004, 18:44

Harris v Mayweather

better than watching Harris v Hatton

Seems like it worked out a hell of alot better for Harris than Hatton.

Just imagine if Hatton had taken the fight and won, he'd be in line for a shot at Mayweather possibly

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 13 Aug 2004, 06:09

bennie wrote:Eiuther way, Warren just can't deliver the big fights any more.

That is it in a nutshell Bennie, I doubt Warren could have made Thompson - Haye. Something would have killed the deal.

JC · Post by JC » 13 Aug 2004, 06:16

It's a shame because the British fans are some of the best in the world, and they deserve much more. Ricky Hatton had always been one of my favorite fighters to watch

What a gentleman 8) Manny Stewart is a legend.

J · Post by J » 13 Aug 2004, 06:19

J-C wrote:
It's a shame because the British fans are some of the best in the world, and they deserve much more. Ricky Hatton had always been one of my favorite fighters to watch
What a gentleman 8) Manny Stewart is a legend.

i used to think that but his behaviour when he took over the Klitschko's bad mouthed his old partner Lewis, and then got dumped led me to be believe that his a fistic whore. Goes where the money is and has no scruples at all. Still by gfetting blown out what comes around goes around.....

then again Im biased when it comes to Lennox we all know this.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 13 Aug 2004, 06:22

I would take what Manny says with a pinch of salt, he may be a great trainer, but he talks a heap load of shit when it comes to his own fighters.

Vivian Harris is notoriously difficult to deal with, even his own promoters

It's pretty easy to claim they were going to offer 50%, where's the proof? Funny that Vivian claimed it was 40% they were going to offer him.

It's all smoke and mirrors as usual in the boxing world, and it entirely depends on who you believe....I just don't know any more, I really dont.

JC · Post by JC » 13 Aug 2004, 06:37

J wrote:
J-C wrote:
It's a shame because the British fans are some of the best in the world, and they deserve much more. Ricky Hatton had always been one of my favorite fighters to watch
What a gentleman 8) Manny Stewart is a legend.
i used to think that but his behaviour when he took over the Klitschko's bad mouthed his old partner Lewis, and then got dumped led me to be believe that his a fistic whore. Goes where the money is and has no scruples at all. Still by gfetting blown out what comes around goes around.....

then again Im biased when it comes to Lennox we all know this.

Damn it! why must all my heroes fall Hatton, Calzaghe, Naz has disappeared. Just when I'm telling my mates not to judge Eubank by the way he acts and that he was a good boxer and a decent bloke he goes and does a f*cking McDonalds commercial :x ,

Spose I better resign myself to the fact that haye is gonna win the IBO title and make 20 defences

oh well there's always danny Williams

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 13 Aug 2004, 06:38

i don´t know who is the bigger asshole, Steward or Warren?

J · Post by J » 13 Aug 2004, 06:40

J-C wrote:
J wrote:
J-C wrote: What a gentleman 8) Manny Stewart is a legend.
i used to think that but his behaviour when he took over the Klitschko's bad mouthed his old partner Lewis, and then got dumped led me to be believe that his a fistic whore. Goes where the money is and has no scruples at all. Still by gfetting blown out what comes around goes around.....

then again Im biased when it comes to Lennox we all know this.
Damn it! why must all my heroes fall Hatton, Calzaghe, Naz has disappeared. Just when I'm telling my mates not to judge Eubank by the way he acts and that he was a good boxer and a decent bloke he goes and does a f*cking McDonalds commercial :x ,

Spose I better resign myself to the fact that haye is gonna win the IBO title and make 20 defences

oh well there's always danny Williams

hayte ownt do that mate, jeez dont jinx him. He is fighting thompson as carl is rated top ten by many people.
In his 11th fight, Ive seen nothing nor heard anything that David would consider this a world title.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 13 Aug 2004, 06:44

J-C wrote:
J wrote:
J-C wrote: What a gentleman 8) Manny Stewart is a legend.
i used to think that but his behaviour when he took over the Klitschko's bad mouthed his old partner Lewis, and then got dumped led me to be believe that his a fistic whore. Goes where the money is and has no scruples at all. Still by gfetting blown out what comes around goes around.....

then again Im biased when it comes to Lennox we all know this.
Damn it! why must all my heroes fall Hatton, Calzaghe, Naz has disappeared. Just when I'm telling my mates not to judge Eubank by the way he acts and that he was a good boxer and a decent bloke he goes and does a f*cking McDonalds commercial :x ,

Spose I better resign myself to the fact that haye is gonna win the IBO title and make 20 defences

oh well there's always danny Williams

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I very much get the impression Haye means business...he's taking a big risk facing Carl at this stage of his career.

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 13 Aug 2004, 06:46

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
J-C wrote:
J wrote: i used to think that but his behaviour when he took over the Klitschko's bad mouthed his old partner Lewis, and then got dumped led me to be believe that his a fistic whore. Goes where the money is and has no scruples at all. Still by gfetting blown out what comes around goes around.....

then again Im biased when it comes to Lennox we all know this.
Damn it! why must all my heroes fall Hatton, Calzaghe, Naz has disappeared. Just when I'm telling my mates not to judge Eubank by the way he acts and that he was a good boxer and a decent bloke he goes and does a f*cking McDonalds commercial :x ,

Spose I better resign myself to the fact that haye is gonna win the IBO title and make 20 defences

oh well there's always danny Williams
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I very much get the impression Haye means business...he's taking a big risk facing Carl at this stage of his career.

Oh yeah, he does.

From speaking to him,I get the impression that he is just not interetsted in beating low grade fighters. He'd rather get beat in a good fight with a guy better than him.

JC · Post by JC » 13 Aug 2004, 06:55

I very much get the impression Haye means business...he's taking a big risk facing Carl at this stage of his career

Yeah i was only joking about the 20 defenses thing, it's really refreshing listening to Hyae being interviewed particularly after the Arthur Williams fight, when he said something like he was trying to send a message out to the other British prospects that they should be facing quality opposition, lets just hope he's got the goods to back it up

I quite fancy having a tenner on him against Thompson I think he's about 3/1.

J · Post by J » 13 Aug 2004, 06:56

I RATE HIM, VERY HIGHLY, i think he wants to conquer the cruisers before his inevitable switch to h/weight in a few years.

Getting a bit ahead of myself but I truly believe he has the talent to do so.

Seems a nice chap too and heralds from my neck of the woods, orpington ten mins away from me!

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 13 Aug 2004, 06:59

J-C wrote:
I very much get the impression Haye means business...he's taking a big risk facing Carl at this stage of his career
Yeah i was only joking about the 20 defenses thing, it's really refreshing listening to Hyae being interviewed particularly after the Arthur Williams fight, when he said something like he was trying to send a message out to the other British prospects that they should be facing quality opposition, lets just hope he's got the goods to back it up

I quite fancy having a tenner on him against Thompson I think he's about 3/1.

Haye is 3/1????????

A tenner, I'll have £500 at that price. Sure you don't mean 1/3?

DIRT SUGAR · Post by **DIRT SUGAR** » 13 Aug 2004, 07:03

Smit wrote:Harris v Mayweather better than watching Harris v Hatton

Seems like it worked out a hell of alot better for Harris than Hatton.

Just imagine if Hatton had taken the fight and won, he'd be in line for a shot at Mayweather possibly

Not sure about that. Fancy Harris chances better v Hatton than Mayweather.

JC · Post by JC » 13 Aug 2004, 07:04

Loftgroov wrote:
J-C wrote:
I very much get the impression Haye means business...he's taking a big risk facing Carl at this stage of his career
Yeah i was only joking about the 20 defenses thing, it's really refreshing listening to Hyae being interviewed particularly after the Arthur Williams fight, when he said something like he was trying to send a message out to the other British prospects that they should be facing quality opposition, lets just hope he's got the goods to back it up

I quite fancy having a tenner on him against Thompson I think he's about 3/1.
Haye is 3/1????????

A tenner, I'll have £500 at that price. Sure you don't mean 1/3?

http://www.willhill.com/iibs/EN/buildcoupon.asp

have a look for yourself, you may get better odds elsewhere as well

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 13 Aug 2004, 07:06

Really, 3-1. That's a cracker, I'll stick a nifty on that....

JC · Post by JC » 13 Aug 2004, 07:10

fornicate sorry thompson is 3/1 haye is 2/9 just misred it assumed the champion would be under home sorry to get you excited guys!

Chambers · Post by **Chambers** » 13 Aug 2004, 07:10

There is no way on this planet that Haye is 3/1. He is a massive favourite

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 13 Aug 2004, 07:11

J-C wrote:
Loftgroov wrote:
J-C wrote: Yeah i was only joking about the 20 defenses thing, it's really refreshing listening to Hyae being interviewed particularly after the Arthur Williams fight, when he said something like he was trying to send a message out to the other British prospects that they should be facing quality opposition, lets just hope he's got the goods to back it up

I quite fancy having a tenner on him against Thompson I think he's about 3/1.
Haye is 3/1????????

A tenner, I'll have £500 at that price. Sure you don't mean 1/3?
http://www.willhill.com/iibs/EN/buildcoupon.asp

have a look for yourself, you may get better odds elsewhere as well

Eh??? No you have mis-read it.

Haye is 1.22/1 ..which is about 1/4 ...not 3/1!!!

Tompson = 3/1

JC · Post by JC » 13 Aug 2004, 07:12

Loftgroov wrote:
J-C wrote:
Loftgroov wrote: Haye is 3/1????????

A tenner, I'll have £500 at that price. Sure you don't mean 1/3?
http://www.willhill.com/iibs/EN/buildcoupon.asp

have a look for yourself, you may get better odds elsewhere as well
Eh??? No you have mis-read it.

Haye is 1.22/1 ..which is about 1/4 ...not 3/1!!!

Tompson = 3/1

yeah i did say further up the thread sorry again lads

(very hung over if thats any excuse)

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 13 Aug 2004, 07:14

Worth a punt on Thompson though, a small one mind.

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 13 Aug 2004, 07:14

Hahahaha no worries mate....

Christ, I was about to cash in half my savings and proceed to the bookies...