AMIR KHAN MONDAY

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 13 Aug 2004, 09:54

Is anyone able to supply any info on Khan opponent?

Exactly how good is this guy? has he had any notable results, and against whom? I appreciate these kind of amatuer stats can be bastard hard to find, but if anyone has a low down on Khan's opponent that'd be cool.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 13 Aug 2004, 09:59

Loftgroov wrote:Is anyone able to supply any info on Khan opponent?

Exactly how good is this guy? has he had any notable results, and against whom? I appreciate these kind of amatuer stats can be bastard hard to find, but if anyone has a low down on Khan's opponent that'd be cool.

Earlier this year the greek lost 21-6 to Aydun Selchuk (TUR) in the pr olympic tournament in Athens (The one where Kindelan beat Khan)

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 13 Aug 2004, 10:00

I see this guy made the QF in the pre-Olympics Test.

60 kg: Selcuk Aydin, TUR, dec. Marius Kaperonis, GRE, 21-6

Got beaten easily enough by the Turk, Aydin.

Kindelin then fought Aydin in the semis, and won a "walkover" result.

Matchfixer · Post by **Matchfixer** » 13 Aug 2004, 10:06

I also found these results from separate tournaments I think

Adrian Alexandru (ROM) beat Marios Kaperonis (GRE), 34:10 3rd April 2004 Strandja cup in Plodiv, Bulgaria

Amir Khan, England, beat Adrian Alexandru, Romania, 46-27 (Bulgarian tournament 2nd round) 4th April 2004 Pre-Olympic Qualifier

Maybe the same tournament.

Matchfixer · Post by **Matchfixer** » 13 Aug 2004, 10:08

The draw is interesting in that Kindelan is in the other half but Amir Khan will have to meet someone who has had a bye (i.e one less fight) in his half.

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 13 Aug 2004, 10:14

Matchfixer wrote:I also found these results from separate tournaments I think

Adrian Alexandru (ROM) beat Marios Kaperonis (GRE), 34:10 3rd April 2004 Strandja cup in Plodiv, Bulgaria

Amir Khan, England, beat Adrian Alexandru, Romania, 46-27 (Bulgarian tournament 2nd round) 4th April 2004 Pre-Olympic Qualifier

Maybe the same tournament.

Interesting..interesting...

Drawing a line through the form would suggest Amir wins comfortably. Not that straightforward of course, but the draw could have been far worse...

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 13 Aug 2004, 10:21

Khan better stop the Greek otherwise he might get robbed. Nothing against the Greeks whatsoever - I'd say the same if he was fighting a host boxer wherever it was.

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 13 Aug 2004, 10:24

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Khan better stop the Greek otherwise he might get robbed. Nothing against the Greeks whatsoever - I'd say the same if he was fighting a host boxer wherever it was.

I quite agree. I can well imagine every Greek punch counting for two points or something

Having said that, the current controversy surrounding Greek athletes would imply the IOC will be keeping a stern eye on Greek competitors. Hopefully we won't see Khan get "robbed"...but I hope he's a good 10 points up with a few seconds to go... (and frankly, he should be)

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 13 Aug 2004, 10:27

Khan's odds have come in following the draw.

He was 8/1 for gold on Sportingodds.com yesterday. Into 6/1 now...

Chris the fighter · Post by **Chris the fighter** » 13 Aug 2004, 10:31

I think that this is the second to worse draw he could have. The crowd will
be cheeering everytime the Greek throws a shot and Olympic boxing
is well known for its dodgy decsions. Does the 15 point mercy rule still
apply for these games?

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 13 Aug 2004, 10:32

I think its 20 points now

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 13 Aug 2004, 10:33

Chris the fighter wrote:I think that this is the second to worse draw he could have. The crowd will
be cheeering everytime the Greek throws a shot and Olympic boxing
is well known for its dodgy decsions. Does the 15 point mercy rule still
apply for these games?

The crowd won't be cheering if the Greek is getting a battering.

The crowd could cheer for me all they want fighting Bernard Hopkins. I still wouldn't win.

Khan will know what he has to do...and he'll do it.

Chris the fighter · Post by **Chris the fighter** » 13 Aug 2004, 11:01

Hope your right mate looking forward to seeing it

glittermonkey · Post by **glittermonkey** » 13 Aug 2004, 11:36

I'm not sure about whether this is a good draw or not. The potential for a robbery is there, all Khan can do is try to take it out of everyone elses hands by winning inside the distance.

On the plus side, depending on his performance and how he handles the match (presuming he wins) he could get the crowd on his side for later bouts, which might give him a slight edge when the fights get tougher.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 13 Aug 2004, 12:16

Why the fornicate don't they just put the judges in sound proof booths?

glittermonkey · Post by **glittermonkey** » 13 Aug 2004, 14:56

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Why the fornicate don't they just put the judges in sound proof booths?

Remembering the crowd for Sydney's opening bouts it might be easier to put the crowd in the booths.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 13 Aug 2004, 15:15

Yes I was thinking the same, no idea what crowds will be like for the early rounds in Greece, but I don't remember big crowds in Sydney.
So the Cuban and American are in the other half by the looks of it. But you wouldn't exaclty be praying to meet a Greek in the first round.

This is the well clued up Emile's prediction, over on the amateur scene page -

60kg
Yet again, the top group is totally wide open. I'd look for the winner of the Diaz-Yeleyov fight to get the bronze. The second group doesn't have Kindelan, but is really tough. You have Stilianov, Kate, Selcuk and Khan all in there - the cream of the European crop - plus the Asian champion Baik. Kindelan rules the third group - shouldn't be challenged too much. Escobedo could win twice, but would have to beat Kindelan to medal. The bottom group is open and will provide another surprise medalist - this could be Australia's best chance to nick a bronze behind Anthony Little.
GOLD - Kindelan
SILVER - Stilianov
BRONZE - Diaz, Little

The draw:

Lightweight

Asheri (IRI) vs BYE
Valentino (ITA) vs BYE

Diaz (DOM) vs BYE
Yeleuov (KAZ)

Aydin (TUR) vs Stilianov (BUL)
Kaperonis (GRE) vs Khan (GBR)

Kate (HUN) vs Baik (KOR)
Munkh (MGL) vs Medor (MRI)

Mosquera (COL) vs Escobedo (USA)
Huseynov (AZE) vs Mahlangu (RSA)

Shah (PAK) vs Kravets (UKR)
Kindelan (CUB) vs Sadiq (NGR)

Rukundo (UGA) vs Tamsamani (MAR)
Carvalho (BRA) vs De Jesus (PUR)

Chobba (TUN) vs Little (AUS)
Chen (CHN vs Khrachev (RUS)

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 13 Aug 2004, 16:41

Meanwhile, the Kenyan boxer sent home for taking drugs and regarded as having "betrayed" his country, runs the gauntlet at Nairobi Airport. His mother stands tall.

Ulysses · Post by **Ulysses** » 13 Aug 2004, 16:51

Dark horse could be Domenico Valentino of Italy. However, it's never gonna be easy for Amir getting past the European champion, Bulgaria's Dimitar Stilianov.
I can't dismiss how easily Khan won the World juniors in Jeju. The Yordenis Ugas result was a fantastic one for Amir. The Cuban is highly thought of and has pushed Khan's arch rival, Super Mario Kindelan, close in a previous contest. Apparently Amir handled him with relative ease.

Matchfixer · Post by **Matchfixer** » 14 Aug 2004, 15:31

Regarding the Greek judges I;m beginning to get a little worried. I've just seen an Aberzaijan boxer beat a Greek in middleweight by one point but at times the Greek was getting points without throwing a punch. Perhaps they should make the buzzers the judges press cheer proof.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 14 Aug 2004, 15:33

Khan needs to definately win big or he will get jobbed for sure...everyone seemed to be intent on keeping Kindelan on the other side of the draw which is true. He will not meet Kindelan until the Semi's, but i think Khan really needs to focus on getting that far first as there are some nifty little fighters at this weight, the odds reflect that he is not perceived as one of the favourites for a start.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 16 Aug 2004, 05:55

The Beeb have just been giving him the big build up. They're showing his fight at 1.45 last I looked, so it'll be delayed - they might decide to show it live at last minute I guess.

I've got Eurosport on at work, and I think they're showing lightweight boxing from 11.30ish - so we'll see him live on there. I'll post when I see him coming to the ring.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 16 Aug 2004, 05:59

MightyWarrior wrote:The Beeb have just been giving him the big build up. They're showing his fight at 1.45 last I looked, so it'll be delayed - they might decide to show it live at last minute I guess.

I've got Eurosport on at work, and I think they're showing lightweight boxing from 11.30ish - so we'll see him live on there. I'll post when I see him coming to the ring.

nice one MW, let us know when he is coming into the ring and i can rush to the TV room.

Just saw the build up...... Nice having Woodhall on the team!!!!!!!

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 16 Aug 2004, 06:13

knockout wrote: nice one MW, let us know when he is coming into the ring and i can rush to the TV room.

Just saw the build up...... Nice having Woodhall on the team!!!!!!!

No probs, I'll keep an eye out - there's a very pleasing game of women's volley ball on at the moment. I think one of the coaches is Swiss Tony. 8)

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 16 Aug 2004, 07:33

I keep popping down the corridor to have a butchers, looks like we're still with the featherweights.