Classic American West Coast Boxing

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[kikibalt]

ON JULY 18TH FLOYD MAYWEATHER WAS IN LOS ANGELES TO PROMOTE HIS COMEBACK FIGHT AGAINST JUAN MARQUEZ IN LAS VEGAS. FLOYD SPOTTED MIGHTY MO IN THE CROWD AND GAVE MO THE THUMBS UP AS HE SAW MO WITH HIS 2008 NATIONAL SILVER GLOVES BELT IN HIS ARMS. AFTER THE CONFERENCE, REPORTERS ASKED FLOYD QUESTIONS AFTER HE HAD INVITED MIGHTY MO TO SIT NEXT TO HIM AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE. AFTERWARDS, THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN AND MIGHTY MO AND FAMILY WERE INVITED TO ATTEND THE CHAMPIONSHIP BOUT ON JULY 18TH BY MR MAYWEATHER WHO WAS GIVING MIGHTY MO THOSE RINGSIDE TICKETS!!

Rudy

[Rick Farris]

This article was sent to me on a pdf file, I can't upload pdf files to post, the only way I'm able to do so is to print, scan and resize, that is too much work, if you have pdf files you want me to post, print'em, scan'em and sent me the scan print and I'll resize and post'em.

Sorry Frank. I was unaware of all the work required. It's not owrth it.

-Rick

[kikibalt]

Connie, Linda, her husband Ray and I are off to Phoenix tomorrow morning (6:A.M, driving) to vist Tony and Bobby and families, will be back on Monday, I will use The boys computers to keep in touch.

[Rick Farris]

ON JULY 18TH FLOYD MAYWEATHER WAS IN LOS ANGELES TO PROMOTE HIS COMEBACK FIGHT AGAINST JUAN MARQUEZ IN LAS VEGAS. FLOYD SPOTTED MIGHTY MO IN THE CROWD AND GAVE MO THE THUMBS UP AS HE SAW MO WITH HIS 2008 NATIONAL SILVER GLOVES BELT IN HIS ARMS. AFTER THE CONFERENCE, REPORTERS ASKED FLOYD QUESTIONS AFTER HE HAD INVITED MIGHTY MO TO SIT NEXT TO HIM AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE. AFTERWARDS, THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN AND MIGHTY MO AND FAMILY WERE INVITED TO ATTEND THE CHAMPIONSHIP BOUT ON JULY 18TH BY MR MAYWEATHER WHO WAS GIVING MIGHTY MO THOSE RINGSIDE TICKETS!!

Rudy

We've seen Mo's YouTube footage, and I saw him in Rudy's gym when he was just starting out.
He's won every junior title there is to win.

More to be revealed . . .


-Rick Farris

[Rick Farris]

:Until we put together the Teran vs Cadilli classic, no semi-windup had ever excited the L.A. fans like the Fabela Chavez vs Jackie McCoy six-rounder under the Bolanos vs John Thomas outdoor feature at Wrigley Field in 1946. It was a classic, too, with none other than Jack Dempsey as referee, if memory serves.
The two young men were southern California favorites, and like Keeny and Gil, borh were about to become headliners. It was hard to predict a winner through the first three minutes of the fight which started off really fast. The sudden impact of a tremendous Chavez right hand punch brought the huge crowd to its feet and it was all over. Fabela had always been a flurry fighter, pumping both hands to the body before shifting to the head. But he had never stopped an opponent with such fierce force, with one deadly shot.
Jackie and I really got to know each other on a two-day junket to Fresno and San Jose, circa 1951. We had Jorge Macias boxing Jimmy Savala at Fresno on a Monday and Jackie Blair against Bobby Woods the next night at a Sid Flaherty-Don Chargin show in San Jose. I drove the group up and back, with a win and a loss for our troubles.
We had been friendly up to that time, but that experience seemed to cement our friendship.

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Hap . . . I know that Jackie McCoy had suffered an injury to his arm in a street car accident. I assume that is what ended his career as a boxer? This proved a great thing, however, because from that came one of the greatest boxing trainers ever.


-Rick Farris

[Expug]

In the article I read about Jackie, he was humble about his record. I think he refered to himself as a clubfighter or something.
He was a good fighter . He fought some very tough opponents .
He talked about going toe to toe with Aileen Eaton also.He held her in high regard even though they battled it out a few times it seems like.

Brian . . . Aileen Eaton was a tough negotiator because she usually held all of the cards. Many a boxer felt cheated by Eaton when it came to their percentage of gate receipts. I know that Jackie had a problem with this on more than one occasion. In one case he was furious with Aileen over the amount of a check he received. He drove down to the Olympic mad as hell, ready to go toe-to-toe with the legendary promoter. When he walked into Mrs. Eaton's office, his mood suddenly calmed when he saw her sitting at her desk. Standing behind Eaton was her son Gene LeBell.


-Rick Farris

Rick, I remember reading about that incident.
Jackie said he was furious , but when he got to Eatons office Gene was there.
Jackie said, "I was able to control myself immediately".

[dagosd2000]

CRAZY REBECCA

So when I write this I'll call her Rebecca. And when I write about all the pugs she was with I'll withold those names too. She made the circuit from South Of The Border through the Southland up to Northern California and across the state line into Nevada. Fighters were her prey and she could have put every fighter from the 4 round crowd chasers through the various champions in their respective divisions in her trophy case.

A lot of trainers and managers want to keep their protogees from the likes of a woman like Rebecca,but it seems that the allure is equal with both parties. Fighters ruin dames as much as dames ruin fighters. Rebecca's pugilistic list of victims never did her any good neither. She never got their dough because with her she always left the fightrs' take in the tap room or the casino. It was easy come,easy go.

Well the other day I ran into the old crazy at a friend of mine's. He used to hang around the gyms during the hey day when he brought name her up. He was living in a trailer park after his wife had given him the boot. I thought I'd give him a shoulder to cry on so I paid him a visit. Then he gave my the news.
"You'll never guess who lives in the trailer just around the corner?"
I was about to make a stab at Jimmy Hoffa when he blurts out that its Crazy Rebecca.
"I can't believe she's still alive," I responded.

Did you ever see that movie Fat City? The wino dame played by Susan Tyrrell. Stacy Keach's girlfriend. Well if you've seen that movie,that's her.
I swear I never saw Crazy Rebecca sober. My friend added to the surprise announcement.
"She's coming over.She'll be hear in a minute."
"What for?"
I'm thinking we're all going to go to some bar and have a wake.
"It's like this,"said my friend. "She had a heart attack last week and now she wants to go to the sporting goods store to buy some workout gear and some weights."
Now I know I had stepped into the Twilight Zone.

Sure enough after a few minutes Rebecca comes stumbling in. Stumbling in.After almost knocking over the lamp,she looks up and sees me.
"Roger. How's it goin?"
I hadn't seen her in 30 years,but she remembered. She hadn't aged much.A few gray hairs. Some wrinkles around the eyes. She had to be pushing 50 Maybe the booze was preserving her. She still had the skinny legs and the big rack. She was as loud as ever.
"Comin' to the sporting goods store with us?"

I had nothing to do. Besides I wanted to see how this was going to wind up. The deal was that we'd drop her off at the store and then she'd walk a couple of blocks to where me and my buddy were going to settle down for breakfast.

Over a plate of corn beef hash and poached eggs I listened to my pal lament about his failed marriage. The food was lousy. His story was pretty sad. And now we had to wait for Miss Universe to arrive. The thing was we both put up 30 bucks so Rebecca could get her life back together. After forcing down our meal ,I suggested we get in the car and look for her.

My pal must have had a notion of what was going on because he told me to stick our heads inside the cocktail lounge next door. Yep. There was Rebecca. Instead of lifting weights,she was lifting a bottle of beer into her mouth.
"High fellas',"she said teetering on the bar stool.

Was we sore? Naw. Did she buy anything at the sporting goods store? Naw. Did she have any of our money left? There's a dumb question .
"Well fellas',"she glowed. "What do you say if you buy me a drink?"

I looked at my friend. The bartender was waiting.
"Sure,Rebecca,"I answered. "Just like old times."

[bennie]

ON JULY 18TH FLOYD MAYWEATHER WAS IN LOS ANGELES TO PROMOTE HIS COMEBACK FIGHT AGAINST JUAN MARQUEZ IN LAS VEGAS. FLOYD SPOTTED MIGHTY MO IN THE CROWD AND GAVE MO THE THUMBS UP AS HE SAW MO WITH HIS 2008 NATIONAL SILVER GLOVES BELT IN HIS ARMS. AFTER THE CONFERENCE, REPORTERS ASKED FLOYD QUESTIONS AFTER HE HAD INVITED MIGHTY MO TO SIT NEXT TO HIM AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE. AFTERWARDS, THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN AND MIGHTY MO AND FAMILY WERE INVITED TO ATTEND THE CHAMPIONSHIP BOUT ON JULY 18TH BY MR MAYWEATHER WHO WAS GIVING MIGHTY MO THOSE RINGSIDE TICKETS!!

Rudy

Mayweather has been quite charming of late. I think he's really missed boxing.

[Dongee]

Rick:

The busted arm accident happened much earlier in Jackie's career. He was riding home in a streetcar after a gym workout accompanied by Harold Dade when a truck brushed past and struck Jackie's arm hanging out the window.

He actuallly boxed more after he had healed and did not quit until shortly after the Corky Gonzalez match. We met by chance on the street just moments after he had decided to quit boxing, making me one of the first, if not the first, to know of his decision. Always the stout-hearted guy, Jackie was smiling when he told me he was quitting. Jackie's life-long friends were boxers Frankie Russell and Babe Edwards, who were also his stablemates under Harry Winklr's guidance.

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[Rick Farris]

Rick:

The busted arm accident happened much earlier in Jackie's career. He was riding home in a streetcar after a gym workout accompanied by Harold Dade when a truck brushed past and struck Jackie's arm hanging out the window.

He actuallly boxed more after he had healed and did not quit until shortly after the Corky Gonzalez match. We met by chance on the street just moments after he had decided to quit boxing, making me one of the first, if not the first, to know of his decision. Always the stout-hearted guy, Jackie was smiling when he told me he was quitting. Jackie's life-long friends were boxers Frankie Russell and Babe Edwards, who were also his stablemates under Harry Winklr's guidance.

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Hap . . . Thanks for the details of Jackie's accident. Also thanks for the info regarding Jackie's friends from the Winkler stable.
There was an interesting sidenote to the career of McCoy's buddy, Babe Edwards. After fighting prelims in southern & northern California, he disappeared for awhile then resurfaced in Oregon in 1948, under the name of Babe "Hardrock" Gordon. The following year he scores an split-dec. win over Oregon's top heavyweight, Joe Kahut. Nobody had heard of Gordon and it was discovered later that he was actually Edwards, who had fought in Spokane, the previous year.


-Rick Farris

[Chuck1052]

As someone who lives in Ventura County, it is my understanding that Jackie McCoy was born in Oxnard. Knowing that Jackie's family lived in the southern part of Los Angeles County (in the vicinity of Long Beach and San Pedro) much of the time, I am puzzled by the listing of Oxnard as his birthplace.

I have found quite a bit of information about Jackie's family (including his father and mother) on Ancestry.com. What was interesting is the number of California fighters (including Latinos and blacks) who were registered to vote.

- Chuck Johnston

[dagosd2000]

A CURIOUS PROMOTOR

We all know about the controversies surrounding JacK Johnson. He won the title in his thirties and defended it sparringly. As his life became more affluent ,his skills diminished as did his determination. The Great White Hope emerged in the American culture and although these Hopes may not have given much credence to a faith,Jack Johnson was quickly becoming only a shadow of his once great self.

In 1916 the Hope for the White Race was Willard. A man not considered in the same breath as a Louis or a Dempsey when judged today,but he was all they had. But the public knew that Jack Johnson was ready to have fork stuck into him. The flab hanging from his frame was the aftermath of a high life in Europe fighting only mediocre opponents.

The deal was being struck to get Jack to defend again with a promise that he'd get to go back to America.The Mann Act,his mother's health,loneliness factored into the set up. Promotors were seeking the opportunity to put a fight together.

There were a plethora of entrepeneurs. Maybe you didn't know that one guy that threw his hat into the ring was a fella' by the name of Pancho Villa. His hat was probably a big sombrero,but he antied up with the rest. Pancho wanted to stage the affair in El Paso,but the deal was never made. Part of the problem was that Villa's heyday as a revolutionary was in a frantic decline. It wasn't long after he made his bid that his band of Dorados attacked the little town of Columbus ,New Mexico. Now he was being squeezed from both ends. The Mexican Carranza politicos and the government of Woodrow S. Wilson. Pancho was an international persona non grata.

I often wonder what would have happened if Villa had been in control of Mexico at that time. He certainly could have gotten his hands on the gold to put up the stake. He had the dinero anyway,but his star had dropped behind the horizon.

Just think. Boxing historians would have written about the great promotors of the Golden Age like Coffroth and Rickard...and Doroteo Arango aka. Pancho Villa. It would have been revolutionary.

[Rick Farris]

Jerry Quarry & Luis Rodriquez

Back in Time . . .

Frank posted this photo more than fifteen months ago, back when this thread was in it's infancy.
While reviewing what we have created, I came across this picture and remember exactly when it was taken and where.
I was 13-years-old, and visiting the Main Street Gym with my grandfather.
It was August, 1965, about a week before the former welterweight champ would fight "Hurricane" Carter at the Olympic

At the time, Jerry Quarry had just eight pro bouts, 8-0 (3 KO's).
Luis Rodriguez was training at Main Street, and Angelo Dundee was with him in the gym.
I had a chance to watch Rodriguez box with a couple good L.A. fighters in "Joltin" Johnny Smith and amateur champ Thurman Durden.

I found myself staring a lot at Dundee, having seen him on TV in the corner of Muhammad Ali.
Dundee gave his fighter water, fastened his headgear, applied Vaseline, flipped a towel over his shoulder.
He said little to the boxer between rounds. He didn't have to.
Rodriguez was a master boxer, in total control, the kind Dundee is best suited to handle, those who already know how to box.

I can see Jerry is wearing his blue & gold, L.A. Golden Gloves team trunks as he sits next to Rodriguez.
He wore those several times in prelim bouts, and later in the gym.
There are things about this day that still remain in my memory.
Jerry Quarry made a lifelong impression on me. So did Luis Rodriguez, as I watched him easily outbox Rubin Carter.


-Rick Farris

[dagosd2000]

Jerry Quarry & Luis Rodriquez

Back in Time . . .

Frank posted this photo more than fifteen months ago, back when this thread was in it's infancy.
While reviewing what we have created, I came across this picture and remember exactly when it was taken and where.
I was 13-years-old, and visiting the Main Street Gym with my grandfather.
It was August, 1965, about a week before the former welterweight champ would fight "Hurricane" Carter at the Olympic

At the time, Jerry Quarry had just eight pro bouts, 8-0 (3 KO's).
Luis Rodriguez was training at Main Street, and Angelo Dundee was with him in the gym.
I had a chance to watch Rodriguez box with a couple good L.A. fighters in "Joltin" Johnny Smith and amateur champ Thurman Durden.

I found myself staring a lot at Dundee, having seen him on TV in the corner of Muhammad Ali.
Dundee gave his fighter water, fastened his headgear, applied Vaseline, flipped a towel over his shoulder.
He said little to the boxer between rounds. He didn't have to.
Rodriguez was a master boxer, in total control, the kind Dundee is best suited to handle, those who already know how to box.

I can see Jerry is wearing his blue & gold, L.A. Golden Gloves team trunks as he sits next to Rodriguez.
He wore those several times in prelim bouts, and later in the gym.
There are things about this day that still remain in my memory.
Jerry Quarry made a lifelong impressionon me. So did Luis Rodriguez, as I watched him easily outbox Rubin Carter.


-Rick Farris

Rick
I saw Louie in San Diego training for his fight with Mexican Middle Weight Champ Rafael Gutierrez. Dundee came around the last week before the bout. i don't they exchanged two words between each other. Rodriguez didn't seem comfortable. His sparring partners were average. He was always complaining.It looked like he was managing himself. When Mantequilla Napoles showed up a few days prior,Louie seemed to be in better spirits.

On the undercard of that fight,a young Kenny Norton fought a real stiff by the name of Pedro Sanchez. Norton had a handfull of fights under his belt at the time. I believe the year was 1968 or 1969. It was prior to Norton's fight with Sanchez that I had my baptism of fire sparring with Kenny.

When I saw what Norton did to Sanchez that evening,I said to myself,
"I think I'm ready for him now." Sanchez I mean.

[Rick Farris]

Jerry Quarry & Luis Rodriquez

Back in Time . . .

Frank posted this photo more than fifteen months ago, back when this thread was in it's infancy.
While reviewing what we have created, I came across this picture and remember exactly when it was taken and where.
I was 13-years-old, and visiting the Main Street Gym with my grandfather.
It was August, 1965, about a week before the former welterweight champ would fight "Hurricane" Carter at the Olympic

At the time, Jerry Quarry had just eight pro bouts, 8-0 (3 KO's).
Luis Rodriguez was training at Main Street, and Angelo Dundee was with him in the gym.
I had a chance to watch Rodriguez box with a couple good L.A. fighters in "Joltin" Johnny Smith and amateur champ Thurman Durden.

I found myself staring a lot at Dundee, having seen him on TV in the corner of Muhammad Ali.
Dundee gave his fighter water, fastened his headgear, applied Vaseline, flipped a towel over his shoulder.
He said little to the boxer between rounds. He didn't have to.
Rodriguez was a master boxer, in total control, the kind Dundee is best suited to handle, those who already know how to box.

I can see Jerry is wearing his blue & gold, L.A. Golden Gloves team trunks as he sits next to Rodriguez.
He wore those several times in prelim bouts, and later in the gym.
There are things about this day that still remain in my memory.
Jerry Quarry made a lifelong impressionon me. So did Luis Rodriguez, as I watched him easily outbox Rubin Carter.


-Rick Farris

Rick
I saw Louie in San Diego training for his fight with Mexican Middle Weight Champ Rafael Gutierrez. Dundee came around the last week before the bout. i don't they exchanged two words between each other. Rodriguez didn't seem comfortable. His sparring partners were average. He was always complaining.It looked like he was managing himself. When Mantequilla Napoles showed up a few days prior,Louie seemed to be in better spirits.

On the undercard of that fight,a young Kenny Norton fought a real stiff by the name of Pedro Sanchez. Norton had a handfull of fights under his belt at the time. I believe the year was 1968 or 1969. It was prior to Norton's fight with Sanchez that I had my baptism of fire sparring with Kenny.

When I saw what Norton did to Sanchez that evening,I said to myself,
"I think I'm ready for him now." Sanchez I mean.

Rog . . . Interesting to hear your memories of Rodriguez and Dundee. Also, your experience with Ken Norton.
I know what's it's like to be under fire in the gym, and it had to make you smile a bit when the guy who put it to you, whipped "The Greatest".
How many guys can say they slugged it out with a guy who whipped Ali? A future heavyweight champion.


-Rick Farris

[bennie]

Rick:

The busted arm accident happened much earlier in Jackie's career. He was riding home in a streetcar after a gym workout accompanied by Harold Dade when a truck brushed past and struck Jackie's arm hanging out the window.

He actuallly boxed more after he had healed and did not quit until shortly after the Corky Gonzalez match. We met by chance on the street just moments after he had decided to quit boxing, making me one of the first, if not the first, to know of his decision. Always the stout-hearted guy, Jackie was smiling when he told me he was quitting. Jackie's life-long friends were boxers Frankie Russell and Babe Edwards, who were also his stablemates under Harry Winklr's guidance.

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The same thing happened to Terry Downes' sister in Boston. Her arm was completely severed from the shoulder.

[dagosd2000]

Rick
I saw Louie in San Diego training for his fight with Mexican Middle Weight Champ Rafael Gutierrez. Dundee came around the last week before the bout. i don't they exchanged two words between each other. Rodriguez didn't seem comfortable. His sparring partners were average. He was always complaining.It looked like he was managing himself. When Mantequilla Napoles showed up a few days prior,Louie seemed to be in better spirits.

On the undercard of that fight,a young Kenny Norton fought a real stiff by the name of Pedro Sanchez. Norton had a handfull of fights under his belt at the time. I believe the year was 1968 or 1969. It was prior to Norton's fight with Sanchez that I had my baptism of fire sparring with Kenny.

When I saw what Norton did to Sanchez that evening,I said to myself,
"I think I'm ready for him now." Sanchez I mean. [/quote]


Rog . . . Interesting to hear your memories of Rodriguez and Dundee. Also, your experience with Ken Norton.
I know what's it's like to be under fire in the gym, and it had to make you smile a bit when the guy who put it to you, whipped "The Greatest".
How many guys can say they slugged it out with a guy who whipped Ali? A future heavyweight champion.


-Rick Farris[/quote]


Rick
You're a real pal,but you give me too much credit. I've always looked at my experience of trying to protect myself against Norton like making an analogy with,let's say perhaps ,playing a round of golf with Tiger Woods. Tiger shoots 70 and I come in with a 170

[Randyman]

Rick
I saw Louie in San Diego training for his fight with Mexican Middle Weight Champ Rafael Gutierrez. Dundee came around the last week before the bout. i don't they exchanged two words between each other. Rodriguez didn't seem comfortable. His sparring partners were average. He was always complaining.It looked like he was managing himself. When Mantequilla Napoles showed up a few days prior,Louie seemed to be in better spirits.

On the undercard of that fight,a young Kenny Norton fought a real stiff by the name of Pedro Sanchez. Norton had a handfull of fights under his belt at the time. I believe the year was 1968 or 1969. It was prior to Norton's fight with Sanchez that I had my baptism of fire sparring with Kenny.

When I saw what Norton did to Sanchez that evening,I said to myself,
"I think I'm ready for him now." Sanchez I mean.

Rog . . . Interesting to hear your memories of Rodriguez and Dundee. Also, your experience with Ken Norton.
I know what's it's like to be under fire in the gym, and it had to make you smile a bit when the guy who put it to you, whipped "The Greatest".
How many guys can say they slugged it out with a guy who whipped Ali? A future heavyweight champion.


-Rick Farris[/quote]


Rick
You're a real pal,but you give me too much credit. I've always looked at my experience of trying to protect myself against Norton like making an analogy with,let's say perhaps ,playing a round of golf with Tiger Woods. Tiger shoots 70 and I come in with a 170 [/quote]



Rog, you stepped into the ring with Ken Norton. There are no "If ands or buts" about it. There are only a few men that would do that. You took your lumps like a man.

There are two qualities that I admire most in a man, one is heart and the other is humility. You my friend possess both.

Randy

[Rick Farris]

Rick:

The busted arm accident happened much earlier in Jackie's career. He was riding home in a streetcar after a gym workout accompanied by Harold Dade when a truck brushed past and struck Jackie's arm hanging out the window.

He actuallly boxed more after he had healed and did not quit until shortly after the Corky Gonzalez match. We met by chance on the street just moments after he had decided to quit boxing, making me one of the first, if not the first, to know of his decision. Always the stout-hearted guy, Jackie was smiling when he told me he was quitting. Jackie's life-long friends were boxers Frankie Russell and Babe Edwards, who were also his stablemates under Harry Winklr's guidance.

hap navarro

The same thing happened to Terry Downes' sister in Boston. Her arm was completely severed from the shoulder.

Damn.

[kikibalt]

Connie, Linda, her husband Ray and I are off to Phoenix tomorrow morning (6:A.M, driving) to vist Tony and Bobby and families, will be back on Monday, I will use The boys computers to keep in touch.

We're in Phoenix, having a good time, keep the posting coming.

[Randyman]

Connie, Linda, her husband Ray and I are off to Phoenix tomorrow morning (6:A.M, driving) to vist Tony and Bobby and families, will be back on Monday, I will use The boys computers to keep in touch.

We're in Phoenix, having a good time, keep the posting coming.

Frank, have great time with your sons! Give my best to Tony and Bobby.

Randy

[bennie]

Rick:

The busted arm accident happened much earlier in Jackie's career. He was riding home in a streetcar after a gym workout accompanied by Harold Dade when a truck brushed past and struck Jackie's arm hanging out the window.

He actuallly boxed more after he had healed and did not quit until shortly after the Corky Gonzalez match. We met by chance on the street just moments after he had decided to quit boxing, making me one of the first, if not the first, to know of his decision. Always the stout-hearted guy, Jackie was smiling when he told me he was quitting. Jackie's life-long friends were boxers Frankie Russell and Babe Edwards, who were also his stablemates under Harry Winklr's guidance.

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The same thing happened to Terry Downes' sister in Boston. Her arm was completely severed from the shoulder.

Damn.

Yeah, people were dropping like flies in the streetcar and on the street. Sylvie, just 18, calmly pulled her arm inside and rested it on her lap. Two policemen applied a tourniquet to stop her bleeding to death. Her claim against the company was settled out of court.

[Rick Farris]

Connie, Linda, her husband Ray and I are off to Phoenix tomorrow morning (6:A.M, driving) to vist Tony and Bobby and families, will be back on Monday, I will use The boys computers to keep in touch.

We're in Phoenix, having a good time, keep the posting coming.

Hey Frank . . . Ask Tony if he ever runs into my friend, Ricky Ricardo (Rodriguez). Ricky's father, Richard, used to own the Madison Gym in Phoenix, on Van Buren St.
By the way, how's the weather? By this time of the year, things start to melt in Phoenix.


-Rick

[kikibalt]

Connie, Linda, her husband Ray and I are off to Phoenix tomorrow morning (6:A.M, driving) to vist Tony and Bobby and families, will be back on Monday, I will use The boys computers to keep in touch.

We're in Phoenix, having a good time, keep the posting coming.

Hey Frank . . . Ask Tony if he ever runs into my friend, Ricky Ricardo (Rodriguez). Ricky's father, Richard, used to own the Madison Gym in Phoenix, on Van Buren St.


-Rick

Will do, Ricky.