Classic American West Coast Boxing

[kikibalt]

[Rick Farris]

Arizona, you're right Rick.Lots of Chicagoans going there to escape the cold. Lotta retirees.
My Mother went there to try and get some relief from her emphysema. She wanted to stay the winter of 2001 there with her husband.(Not my Dad they divorced).
She went to Mesa. Problem was, she got much worse due to the air quality from construction or something I dont know.
She died there. Never made it back to Chicago.

Brian, my mother & stepfather bought a home in Chandler about a year before I moved to Tempe. Mesa, Chandler & Tempe are all next to each other, east of Phoenix. You are right about all of the construction and how it affected the air quality of Maricopa County. Soon after my mother moved to Chandler, she developed "Valley Fever" which was a congestive ailment. The doctor told her that the dust in the air from all of the construction in this fast developing region carries disease, and my mother suffered from it for a couple of years. After my stepfather passed away, my mother relocated to the Central Coast of California. There is a great misconception about the "fresh air" and healing quality of the Arizona atmosphere. This may have been true in years past, but today, the air is far from healthy. While in Az, I did meet a lot of Chicago transplants, made some good friends.


-Rick Farris

Rick, thanks for this info. This is important to me as at the time, my Mom was convinced that the air in Arizona would do her well. I had heard that there was some risk involved from the air situation due to construction etc. I didnt want her to go , but she was convinced.
It really turned into a fiasco as she declined pretty rapidly. It got to the point where she could not fly home as she was too weak and there was a risk of her flying.
The rest of the family was here in Chicago. It was a rough situation.

Brian, I'm sorry you lost your mother, and I never had a clue that the air was a problem until I lived there.
When my uncle was an infant, back in the 1920's, my grandparents lived in Az. due to the baby's congestive challenges.
It was a good thing, back then.
Today-

I was there from 1999 to '02. During those three years the building was connecting towns that had long been seperated by miles of desert. This included new freeways. The ground would be moved, stirred, altered. The desert breeze blows it into the atmosphere, etc.

-Rick

[BoxBuzz]

As an Arizonan I can relate to the politics statement. Evan Mecham former Governor? Very much like Ross Perot but without the redeeming qualities. Although I have to say I did like Goldwater. Carl Hayden was good and I do like Senator Kyle. Sort of Liked Morris Udall as well. We had another Dem Governor that was a good too Raul Castro.

[Rick Farris]

As an Arizonan I can relate to the politics statement. Evan Mecham former Governor? Very much like Ross Perot but without the redeeming qualities. Although I have to say I did like Goldwater. Carl Hayden was good and I do like Senator Kyle. Sort of Liked Morris Udall as well. We had another Dem Governor that was a good too Raul Castro.

Rob, I remember when Sheriff Joe ran for Governor. Now that was scary


-Rick

[kikibalt]

As an Arizonan I can relate to the politics statement. Evan Mecham former Governor? Very much like Ross Perot but without the redeeming qualities. Although I have to say I did like Goldwater. Carl Hayden was good and I do like Senator Kyle. Sort of Liked Morris Udall as well. We had another Dem Governor that was a good too Raul Castro.

Rob, I remember when Sheriff Joe ran for Governor. Now that was scary


-Rick

He did!?....

[BoxBuzz]

I thought that was just a threat....I thought he didnt' actually do it.

[kikibalt]

sheriff joe can go sit on a cactus....

[Rick Farris]

I thought that was just a threat....I thought he didnt' actually do it.

You may be right, Rob. I guess the shock of such a possibility rattled me.
I thought he ran against the Lady Governor whose name escapes me?


-Rick Farris

[Rick Farris]

I just watched Lee Savold's 1951 bout with 36-year-old Joe Louis, on YouTube.
This would be the last knockout ever scored by the Brown Bomber.


-Rick Farris

[Randyman]

I was cleaning out my closet today, looking for old shirts and pants, etc... to give to Good Will and I ran across this old teeshirt. I have had it for about twenty five years. I have never worn it. It was given to me by my friend Max Soto, brother to Larry and Max Soto. It was given to Max by Danny. It's somewhat of a collector's item.



Randy

[Rick Farris]

Arizona, you're right Rick.Lots of Chicagoans going there to escape the cold. Lotta retirees.
My Mother went there to try and get some relief from her emphysema. She wanted to stay the winter of 2001 there with her husband.(Not my Dad they divorced).
She went to Mesa. Problem was, she got much worse due to the air quality from construction or something I dont know.
She died there. Never made it back to Chicago.

The people that come to Arizona from the north during winter are called "Snow Birds".

You can always spot the "Snow Birds" coming down the highway.
They're the ones with the mega-sized motor homes, towing a small Saturn behind.


-Rick Farris

[kikibalt]

I was cleaning out my closet today, looking for old shirts and pants, etc... to give to Good Will and I ran across this old teeshirt. I have had it for about twenty five years. I have never worn it. It was given to me by my friend Max Soto, brother to Larry and Max Soto. It was given to Max by Danny. It's somewhat of a collector's item.



Randy

Nice tee Randy... , I had some of Tony and Frankie's, might still have one or two.

[kikibalt]

Arizona, you're right Rick.Lots of Chicagoans going there to escape the cold. Lotta retirees.
My Mother went there to try and get some relief from her emphysema. She wanted to stay the winter of 2001 there with her husband.(Not my Dad they divorced).
She went to Mesa. Problem was, she got much worse due to the air quality from construction or something I dont know.
She died there. Never made it back to Chicago.

The people that come to Arizona from the north during winter are called "Snow Birds".

You can always spot the "Snow Birds" coming down the highway.
They're the ones with the mega-sized motor homes, towing a small Saturn behind.


-Rick Farris

Yep! thats'em....

[Randyman]

Arizona, you're right Rick.Lots of Chicagoans going there to escape the cold. Lotta retirees.
My Mother went there to try and get some relief from her emphysema. She wanted to stay the winter of 2001 there with her husband.(Not my Dad they divorced).
She went to Mesa. Problem was, she got much worse due to the air quality from construction or something I dont know.
She died there. Never made it back to Chicago.

Brian, my mother & stepfather bought a home in Chandler about a year before I moved to Tempe. Mesa, Chandler & Tempe are all next to each other, east of Phoenix. You are right about all of the construction and how it affected the air quality of Maricopa County. Soon after my mother moved to Chandler, she developed "Valley Fever" which was a congestive ailment. The doctor told her that the dust in the air from all of the construction in this fast developing region carries disease, and my mother suffered from it for a couple of years. After my stepfather passed away, my mother relocated to the Central Coast of California. There is a great misconception about the "fresh air" and healing quality of the Arizona atmosphere. This may have been true in years past, but today, the air is far from healthy. While in Az, I did meet a lot of Chicago transplants, made some good friends.


-Rick Farris

Rick, thanks for this info. This is important to me as at the time, my Mom was convinced that the air in Arizona would do her well. I had heard that there was some risk involved from the air situation due to construction etc. I didnt want her to go , but she was convinced.
It really turned into a fiasco as she declined pretty rapidly. It got to the point where she could not fly home as she was too weak and there was a risk of her flying.
The rest of the family was here in Chicago. It was a rough situation.

Brian, I'm sorry about your mother's passing as well as the circumstances. It had to be tough for you and the family. From what I know about you, she raised a good son. I'm sure she found contentment in that.

I'm separated by75 miles from my mother. Not a great distance but far enough so that I can't see her everyday. I worry about her.

Randy

[Randyman]

I was cleaning out my closet today, looking for old shirts and pants, etc... to give to Good Will and I ran across this old teeshirt. I have had it for about twenty five years. I have never worn it. It was given to me by my friend Max Soto, brother to Larry and Max Soto. It was given to Max by Danny. It's somewhat of a collector's item.



Randy

Nice tee Randy... , I had some of Tony and Frankie's, might still have one or two.

The teeshirt is a lot like Danny. Simple, to the point, no fuss, no muss, with lots of red. They don't even make teeshirts like they used to.

Randy

[kikibalt]

LATimes sports page

Joe "Old Bones" Brown vs Paolo Rosi

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[Expug]

Thanks for the nice words Randy.
I was close to my Mom.
I look back though and realize I cost her some sleepless nights.Sometimes feel guilty.
She worried about me I know. I had a short fuse as a young guy. Fighting, raising hell.
Even on her death bed, with the people from hospice helping her, I can still hear her saying "Brian, Brian" dont do it".
See, I was beefing with some freakin golfer outside the patio door . He had told my daughter to get away from the fairway which the condo my Mom was renting was on.She was real young and down there saying goodbye to Grandma with me.
I chewed out this golfer pretty bad. Probably told him I was gonna throw him in the fake lake I dont know. What can I say?
But this kinda stuff happened alot. She loved me, but I think she thought I was nuts. She really hated boxing too. Couldnt understand it.
It really bothered her that I had some fights.

[kikibalt]

Thanks for the nice words Randy.
I was close to my Mom.
I look back though and realize I cost her some sleepless nights.Sometimes feel guilty.
She worried about me I know. I had a short fuse as a young guy. Fighting, raising hell.
Even on her death bed, with the people from hospice helping her, I can still hear her saying "Brian, Brian" dont do it".
See, I was beefing with some freakin golfer outside the patio door . He had told my daughter to get away from the fairway which the condo my Mom was renting was on.She was real young and down there saying goodbye to Grandma with me.
I chewed out this golfer pretty bad. Probably told him I was gonna throw him in the fake lake I dont know. What can I say?
But this kinda stuff happened alot. She loved me, but I think she thought I was nuts. She really hated boxing too. Couldnt understand it.
It really bothered her that I had some fights.

Pug...I don't think there is one of us here who didn't cost our parents sleepless nights, and they probably did the same when they were young, goes with the territory, you know, been young.

[kikibalt]

Where is Tom Ray?

[Rick Farris]

Thanks for the nice words Randy.
I was close to my Mom.
I look back though and realize I cost her some sleepless nights.Sometimes feel guilty.
She worried about me I know. I had a short fuse as a young guy. Fighting, raising hell.
Even on her death bed, with the people from hospice helping her, I can still hear her saying "Brian, Brian" dont do it".
See, I was beefing with some freakin golfer outside the patio door . He had told my daughter to get away from the fairway which the condo my Mom was renting was on.She was real young and down there saying goodbye to Grandma with me.
I chewed out this golfer pretty bad. Probably told him I was gonna throw him in the fake lake I dont know. What can I say?
But this kinda stuff happened alot. She loved me, but I think she thought I was nuts. She really hated boxing too. Couldnt understand it.
It really bothered her that I had some fights.

Pug...I don't think there is one of us here who didn't cost our parents sleepless nights, and they probably did the same when they were young, goes with the territory, you know, been young.

Thats the truth!

[HomicideHenry]

Woodcock/Louis I always felt would have made for a good fight while it lasted.

[kikibalt]

Woodcock/Louis I always felt would have made for a good fight while it lasted.

What kind of a fighter was Woodcock? I don't believe I ever seen any file of him.

[kikibalt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jut6UYr6_M0

Archie Moore vs Carl Bobo Olson

[Rick Farris]

Woodcock/Louis I always felt would have made for a good fight while it lasted.

What kind of a fighter was Woodcock? I don't believe I ever seen any file of him.

Frank . . . I never saw the guy fight, but I imagine with the name "Woodcock", he was probably a "stiff".

To be honest, Woodcock was a pretty big hitter, almost all his wins by KO, only 4 losses-all by KO.
He KOed Gus Lesnevich, Freddie Mills, and Lee Oma.


-Rick Farris

[dagosd2000]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XWwLeXzoTs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2xFARmIIRI

Freddie Mills vs. Bruce Woodcock