question about national tournaments

[kidneypunch]

how does the draw work?

is it 100% random?

lets say a fighter is 2009 national champion and 2008 pal champion with 200 fights

and another has 10 fights and no real national experience

the other has 100 fights

and another has like 70


would it be 100% random?

or how does the draw work for the bracket?

[DCAmateurBoxing]

how does the draw work?

is it 100% random?

lets say a fighter is 2009 national champion and 2008 pal champion with 200 fights

and another has 10 fights and no real national experience

the other has 100 fights

and another has like 70


would it be 100% random?

or how does the draw work for the bracket?

At national tournaments, the draw is supposed to be random. Its mostly done by computer now, but some of the local tournaments do it manually where numbers are assigned to boxers and then picked blindly for the brackets. At most tournaments, experience doesn't matter. I say most because some of the invitationals (where you pay to enter) have open and novice divisions at all ages/weights. The advancing tournaments do not. By entering the tournament, you're basically saying that you are ready for anyone of any experience. Records and bouts are not even considered like they can be at a local show with matched bouts.

[Slythex]

The draw is done randomly via computer. What happens is we get all of the boxers entered in the correct division (seniors, JOs, whatever) and weight class, and the computer randomly seeds everyone and generates the bracket.

I'm not sure if you were at Nationals, or attended draw night, but once everything is entered, the person conducting the draw goes through each weight class and division one by one, making sure the names, weight classes, and details are correct, and then publically runs the draw.

Once the draw is done, based on the brackets, various bouts are then scheduled for particular days and/or rings.

All boxers, regardless of number of bouts, previous rankings, etc, are treated equally with regards to the seeding. That said, to get into the tournament in the first place, you usually need to win some nationally recognized tournament: PAL, Golden/Silver Gloves, Regionals, etc, although there are some at large slots available. I know the at large slots are limited, but I don't know what the selection process is.

[Dennis]

This year's USA National Championships had a completely random computer draw. In year's past, many of the US Nationals had the top 4 seeded in the bracket before doing a random draw for the rest of the boxers.

[kidneypunch]

This year's USA National Championships had a completely random computer draw. In year's past, many of the US Nationals had the top 4 seeded in the bracket before doing a random draw for the rest of the boxers.

how come on the thing where it showed who went by region

what was that unattached region?

whats that?


and a at large application, can anyone sign up for it?

[DCAmateurBoxing]

This year's USA National Championships had a completely random computer draw. In year's past, many of the US Nationals had the top 4 seeded in the bracket before doing a random draw for the rest of the boxers.

how come on the thing where it showed who went by region

what was that unattached region?

whats that?


and a at large application, can anyone sign up for it?

It was listed by region because the tournament started at the local level. For us we had a DC area USA tournament first. The winners went onto the East Central Regionals where the champions from the various LBCs (5 total I think) competed to see who would represent the region at the Nationals in Denver. Every region sent a team.

At large was to determine which boxers would fill in regional slots that didn't have a boxer (no entries) at certain weights. It was open for any boxer from that region who met the eligibility criteria, but the applications were reviewed and athletes selected by USA Boxing CEO, High Performance Director and one athlete representative. I've heard that there were some questions/complaints about that process this past week, so I'm not sure if that will be changed.

Only female open boxers were listed as unattached.So, I'm not sure about that.

[boxmel]

Only female open boxers were listed as unattached.So, I'm not sure about that.

The "unattached" female boxers were those who did not advance through a local and regional tournament. They entered independently.

[kidneypunch]

Only female open boxers were listed as unattached.So, I'm not sure about that.

The "unattached" female boxers were those who did not advance through a local and regional tournament. They entered independently.

how the heck do you enter independently??

THAT MEANS I COULDA FRICKEN WENT

DUDE ....

[Kolya]

Only female open boxers were listed as unattached.So, I'm not sure about that.

The "unattached" female boxers were those who did not advance through a local and regional tournament. They entered independently.

how the heck do you enter independently??

THAT MEANS I COULDA FRICKEN WENT

DUDE ....

Are you a female boxer? Only they can do it.

[Dennis]

6 boxers who won the National Golden Gloves tournament made it to the finals of the USA Boxing National Championships. 5 of those 6 boxers then won the National Championships on Saturday night. The 5 won won were Cartagena at 106, Byrd at 112, Magdaleno at 119, Spence at 152 and Shimmell at 201. That shows how tough the NGG tournament is to win and that the winners are very good.

[DCAmateurBoxing]

This year's USA National Championships had a completely random computer draw. In year's past, many of the US Nationals had the top 4 seeded in the bracket before doing a random draw for the rest of the boxers.

USAB plans on seeding the top 4 in next years Nationals, so it looks like again, we are going back to previous processes/rules.