DOES MIKE TYSON BELONG IN THE HALL OF FAME?

[Goodnight, Irene]

I consider Patterson the youngest ever. Tyson didn't unify until twenty-two, tying him, in terms of age, with Ali.

[bjermaine]

- Complete idiots is what used to send you hiding behind mummy's skirt, remember?

Sorry to have frightened your cap locks and grammar into a granberry fright there bubby. Short answer to your question is, yes, Cobb was a pitcher, a pitcher of warm spit.

Get on back to me when you need another softball lobbed up and, criminy, stop wiping your nose on mummy's skirt.

BRR: Can you list some of those pitchers who used to throw 160 mph fastballs back in the era of Ty Cobb? Can you also identify some major league games in which Cobb pitched? Thanks.

BRR, i need another softball lobbed up so just post anything for some comedic relief. hopefully you can tell us some other great baseball facts.

btw, mike tyson belongs and will be in the hall of fame. you can't have barry mcguigan in and mike tyson out of the HOF.

[bjermaine]

I consider Patterson the youngest ever. Tyson didn't unify until twenty-two, tying him, in terms of age, with Ali.

tyson was a few months younger that patterson when he unified the wba, ibf, and wbc belts. also tyson was three days short of his 22nd bday when he ko'ed spinks.

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

BRR: Can you list some of those pitchers who used to throw 160 mph fastballs back in the era of Ty Cobb? Can you also identify some major league games in which Cobb pitched? Thanks.

- I've noticed the mere mention of Tyson causes an immediate epidemic of daft flu..

I never stated any pitcher throws 160, that's just daft, but to answer your questions, Cobb appeared in relief in 1918 and 1925 for 3 games total with an era of 3.6.

It's estimated the ball speed off the bat needed for your average mid bleacher HR is near 120 mph. Big sluggers like McGwire were approaching 600' with Mantle and Josh Gibson credited unofficially in Yankee stadium with 600'+ HRs which is probably more like 130 mph. High arc HRs are balls hit off slightly off center with enough backspin to carry the distance.

The balls coming at the pitchers, fielders, and runners by such sluggers can potentially be more direct hits on more level swings and would be even faster. Then we get into aluminum bats which had to be neutered to reduce their danger to collegiate players.

And in advance, no, Cobb was not a regular baseball pitcher, nor Aaron, nor most of the other players I mentioned, I would think that obvious. And YES, the rock moving at 160 was FIGURATIVE ALLITERATION used for illustrative purpose, not really a rock even though Dizzy Dean was first discovered by a scout who spotted him hunting squirrels by knocking them out of trees with rocks .

Any more questions?

[raylawpc]

BRR: Can you list some of those pitchers who used to throw 160 mph fastballs back in the era of Ty Cobb? Can you also identify some major league games in which Cobb pitched? Thanks.

- I've noticed the mere mention of Tyson causes an immediate epidemic of daft flu..

I never stated any pitcher throws 160, that's just daft, but to answer your questions, Cobb appeared in relief in 1918 and 1925 for 3 games total with an era of 3.6.

It's estimated the ball speed off the bat needed for your average mid bleacher HR is near 120 mph. Big sluggers like McGwire were approaching 600' with Mantle and Josh Gibson credited unofficially in Yankee stadium with 600'+ HRs which is probably more like 130 mph. High arc HRs are balls hit off slightly off center with enough backspin to carry the distance.

The balls coming at the pitchers, fielders, and runners by such sluggers can potentially be more direct hits on more level swings and would be even faster. Then we get into aluminum bats which had to be neutered to reduce their danger to collegiate players.

And in advance, no, Cobb was not a regular baseball pitcher, nor Aaron, nor most of the other players I mentioned, I would think that obvious. And YES, the rock moving at 160 was FIGURATIVE ALLITERATION used for illustrative purpose, not really a rock even though Dizzy Dean was first discovered by a scout who spotted him hunting squirrels by knocking them out of trees with rocks .

Any more questions?

Not when I get "answers" like that . . .

(P.S. what you called an alliteration wasn't. An alliteration is rhetorical device in which the speaker or writer repeats the same consonant sound at the beginning of several words in close succession - such as, "Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers . . . " or "Broughton brings bullshit to boxing and baseball . . .".)

[Collins2000]

[JC]

I'm not a massive Tyson fan but he belongs in the hall of fame which ever way you measure it.

Ability: Without question
Achievements: I don't rate his first career as highly as many but I think cleaning out a division and unifying the major belts should be enough.
Current Standards With guys like Willard and Braddock in there why the hell not.

First round entry for me.

[Collins2000]

Spiro loved alliteration.

Who could forget "hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history" or "nattering nabobs of negativism"?

"Broughton brings bullshit to boxing and baseball " has a nice ring to it.

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

Not when I get "answers" like that . . .

(P.S. what you called an alliteration wasn't. An alliteration is rhetorical device in which the speaker or writer repeats the same consonant sound at the beginning of several words in close succession - such as, "Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers . . . " or "Broughton brings bullshit to boxing and baseball . . .".)

- Ah, an illiteration by me on a boxing board littered with baseball board wannabes, eh?

When that rock comes off the bat and smacks your noggin, you're gonna hear a lot of sounds in close succession - such as, "zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..... rest in rigor mortis."

[raylawpc]

Finally, we agree. "Illiteration" comes from the word "illiterate," and, thus, means the use of illiteracy and general lack of knowledge of the English language to embarrass oneself.

So, I would agree that virtually all of your posts are illiterations.

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

Finally, we agree. "Illiteration" comes from the word "illiterate," and, thus, means the use of illiteracy and general lack of knowledge of the English language to embarrass oneself.

So, I would agree that virtually all of your posts are illiterations.

- So, finally agreement is reached whilst your mates are being royally and properly skewered by our newest posters outraged at the foul and slanderous nature of their Alan Sugar posts.

I have a little puppy I'd like to find a good home. He'll be a loyal friend, is already neutered, and his messes are tiny little things easily ignored. My gift to you for being such an agreeable chap.

[Collins2000]

[Ambling Alp]

People that like him often go way overbaord and have lame excuses for his losses to Holyfield and Douglas.
Other people that don't like him go the opposite way and don't give him any credit.

I don't like him at all. However, he was a great fighter. He deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. This is a no-brainer.