MMA and pro sport

[finchy36]

Apologies to those who read this as a relpy on another topic. But I felt it had enough legs to stand alone. cheers.

Let's get this straight. Sport in its purist form no longer exists at a professional level. The days are gone when an amateur was so good at his sport that people would pay to watch him and he could turn his sport into a 'profession'. Shrewd business people spotted this opportunity a long time ago and turned it into a money making business.

Professional sport doesn't exist - BIG BUSINESS and people that think life is about making money only exist. I'm not talking about the sportsmen themselves. Young footballers/boxers/tennis players etc. are not driven by money. They love their sport and want to be the best. But look at F1. They would rather destroy the sport and earn more money through two championships than do the right things by the fans and settle their differences. Don't believe this row is about a $40m cap on spending. It's because the teams (imo rightly so) don't want Bernie taking the lion's share of cash when they are the ones putting on the show.

In boxing, the WBA has got extra greedy by having a super, normal, regular, womens, interbullshit, skinny-latte champion at every weight so they can charge a sactioning fee. It was bad enough we had 123 world champions at 33 different weights spread across different bodies - now a single body has multiple world champs. The fans don't want it - but when did they matter in business?

Football can charge what they want because the average loyal fan will always find the money to follow his team no matter how extortionate. But when did they matter in business?

I don't watch MMA - I have tried but feel guilty - I feel like I'm cheating on my first love of boxing.

But at the end of the day they are giving the fans what they want and it appears they are doing a great job of mixing business with sport.

Perhaps other sports should take note...

[scottyboy_1978]

"But at the end of the day they are giving the fans what they want and it appears they are doing a great job of mixing business with sport"


Hav to agree with that.




Wouldnt feel guilty though. I still maintain that u can enjoy both.

[finchy36]

I know, but it's like I can't wait until the weekend to see my wife (boxing), but then a bit of skirt shows up in the week (MMA) - I would feel unfaithful...

No, you're right. Anything goes. cheers Scotty!

[scottyboy_1978]

[quote="finchy36"]I know, but it's like I can't wait until the weekend to see my wife (boxing), but then a bit of skirt shows up in the week (MMA) - I would feel unfaithful...




Boxing will always be my first love . MMA is a growing sport though. One which i find very entertaining too. In perticular UFC.

If anything maybe boxing will begin to notice and try to up their game.

[teddy007]

Apologies to those who read this as a relpy on another topic. But I felt it had enough legs to stand alone. cheers.

Let's get this straight. Sport in its purist form no longer exists at a professional level. The days are gone when an amateur was so good at his sport that people would pay to watch him and he could turn his sport into a 'profession'. Shrewd business people spotted this opportunity a long time ago and turned it into a money making business.

Professional sport doesn't exist - BIG BUSINESS and people that think life is about making money only exist. I'm not talking about the sportsmen themselves. Young footballers/boxers/tennis players etc. are not driven by money. They love their sport and want to be the best. But look at F1. They would rather destroy the sport and earn more money through two championships than do the right things by the fans and settle their differences. Don't believe this row is about a $40m cap on spending. It's because the teams (imo rightly so) don't want Bernie taking the lion's share of cash when they are the ones putting on the show.

In boxing, the WBA has got extra greedy by having a super, normal, regular, womens, interbullshit, skinny-latte champion at every weight so they can charge a sactioning fee. It was bad enough we had 123 world champions at 33 different weights spread across different bodies - now a single body has multiple world champs. The fans don't want it - but when did they matter in business?

Football can charge what they want because the average loyal fan will always find the money to follow his team no matter how extortionate. But when did they matter in business?

I don't watch MMA - I have tried but feel guilty - I feel like I'm cheating on my first love of boxing.

But at the end of the day they are giving the fans what they want and it appears they are doing a great job of mixing business with sport.

Perhaps other sports should take note...

Have to say I agree with that and don't feel guilty about mma, its good.

[finchy36]

If anything maybe boxing will begin to notice and try to up their game.

I know, but it's like I can't wait until the weekend to see my wife (boxing), but then a bit of skirt shows up in the week (MMA) - I would feel unfaithful...




Boxing will always be my first love . MMA is a growing sport though. One which i find very entertaining too. In perticular UFC.

If anything maybe boxing will begin to notice and try to up their game.

I hope so mate, I hope so.

[Poncey]

Should we keep this in the Brit BOxing forum or move it to O/S?

[scottyboy_1978]

other sports

[Gaz_73]

I know, but it's like I can't wait until the weekend to see my wife (boxing), but then a bit of skirt shows up in the week (MMA) - I would feel unfaithful...

Well I have persuaded boxing to have a threesome with me and MMA

If anything maybe boxing will begin to notice and try to up their game.

MMA has a distinct advantage over boxing.

In Boxing, the organisations are just another party trying to get a piece of the pie. In MMA, the organisation owns the pie and controls who gets a piece of the pie, how big a slice of the pie they get and if they are allowed seconds.

Unfortunately, I can’t really see anyway of reversing multiple title syndrome unless people in boxing are willing to give up a piece of the pie (not going to happen). A promoter will gauge success by how much money he makes himself and his fighter, hence it was more profitable for Hatton to defend the WBU in a filled out MEN arena against B level fighters than it would have been to go stateside earlier in his career and fight for a meaningful belt.

[scottyboy_1978]

I know, but it's like I can't wait until the weekend to see my wife (boxing), but then a bit of skirt shows up in the week (MMA) - I would feel unfaithful...

Well I have persuaded boxing to have a threesome with me and MMA

If anything maybe boxing will begin to notice and try to up their game.

MMA has a distinct advantage over boxing.

In Boxing, the organisations are just another party trying to get a piece of the pie. In MMA, the organisation owns the pie and controls who gets a piece of the pie, how big a slice of the pie they get and if they are allowed seconds.

Unfortunately, I can’t really see anyway of reversing multiple title syndrome unless people in boxing are willing to give up a piece of the pie (not going to happen). A promoter will gauge success by how much money he makes himself and his fighter, hence it was more profitable for Hatton to defend the WBU in a filled out MEN arena against B level fighters than it would have been to go stateside earlier in his career and fight for a meaningful belt.

good points