Kindelan was just too clever. Had an answer for everything Amir did. Obviously we all wanted Amir to win, but it was nice to see the Cuban off into the sunset with a gold medal. He can't turn pro so he'a chieved all he can.
For Amir however, it's a different story.
The fact that he won silver means he was denied the ultimate glory. Perhaps that will rile him a bit and he'll want to stay amateur until Bejiing 2008. On the way, he'll surely pick up Commonwealth Games gold, the European championship, the world championship (if Kindelan hasn't retired by then). He might even fancy the ABAs!
Hopefully he'll stay amateur.
Whatever he does, he still did well today, and we commend him for it. A game effort. Next time he'll win gold, defiantely.
Amir Khan - 2004 Olympic Games Lightweight Silver Medallist
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The Cobra-ess
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I think it was better for Khan to win silver even though he did look disppointed. I think if he'd have won he would start to believe all the invincible hype and people would have expected too much of him, after all he's only 17, he needs time to get some more fights under his belt. I think it was a good learning curve, and with Kindelan not being in the next Olympics the gold is almost certainly his...
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Hi M, saw it and beats is being served!
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Hi M, saw it and beats is being served!
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This is the type of pressure that Khan does not need. Winning Olympic gold is a hard ask for any Amateur boxer. However, it seems like people are wrapping that Gold around his neck already.The Cobra-ess wrote:Kindelan not being in the next Olympics the gold is almost certainly his...
I hope you are right, and no doubt with his talent he could be up there - but 4 years is along time. There could be some 15 year old Cuban even more talented than Khan that we haven't even seen, he would be 19 by the games. Maybe the current #2 Cuban is a talent also?
The weight of expectation is so great on Khan now, perhaps he is a bit too talented for his own good. Anything can happen, he could lose on a cut or a poor decision.
Khan seems a well rounded, intelligent lad - but lets not put to much pressure on the lad.
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that is why I think it is good that he got silver, he nees to learn to start from the bottom, he'd burn out too quickly if he got ahead of his game now. Hopefully he'll realise what an achievment it is getting a silver at his agem and it will spur him on without the extra pressures attached with winning gold.[/quote]
Silver is an awesome achievement for this seventeen year old.
If he had got gold I would have said a move to the pro`s in a year or so would have been sensible.
A silver kind of changes that now, I think those who said he should wait on until after the Beijing Olympics could be right.
I still think he is awesome, and I think he was working out the excellent Kindelan towards the end.
But maybe another four years in the vest may be for the best.
But there will be no guarantees he gets gold or even silver at the next Olympics….four years is a very long time, who will emerge by that time from the USA and Cuba?
If he had got gold I would have said a move to the pro`s in a year or so would have been sensible.
A silver kind of changes that now, I think those who said he should wait on until after the Beijing Olympics could be right.
I still think he is awesome, and I think he was working out the excellent Kindelan towards the end.
But maybe another four years in the vest may be for the best.
But there will be no guarantees he gets gold or even silver at the next Olympics….four years is a very long time, who will emerge by that time from the USA and Cuba?
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I agree with Boxing Mad, well done to Kindelan...a fantastic fighter and a credit to the sport. Khan has the world at his feet now and can aspire to so much more, i.e. a pro career, world titles, big money etc but the Cuban boxers cannot achieve these things. The Olympics are there destiny and there achievements as Boxers really end here...congratulations Mario 
And to Amir as well.
And to Amir as well.Who won the Barker cup?
The first olympic boxing I watched this time was the lightheavy`s and they were also the last.
Must say I did not see any of the inbetween fights, but if these two fights were anything to go by I didn`t miss anything..
I did like the Cuban bantamweight, did I hear he is 31yrs old.
He was excellent and I think he deserved the Barker cup slightly over Kindelan for me.
What a shame the Superheavy title was won on a walkover, is this the first time, and does anybody know why the boxer failed the medical?
The first olympic boxing I watched this time was the lightheavy`s and they were also the last.
Must say I did not see any of the inbetween fights, but if these two fights were anything to go by I didn`t miss anything..
I did like the Cuban bantamweight, did I hear he is 31yrs old.
He was excellent and I think he deserved the Barker cup slightly over Kindelan for me.
What a shame the Superheavy title was won on a walkover, is this the first time, and does anybody know why the boxer failed the medical?
Great games for Khan. Losing in the olympic final to the 3 times world champ and now 2 times olympic gold medalist, a guy who was almost twice his age with masses more experience is no shame. he has done himself and the country proud.
The way he has managed himself and presented himself is a credit to him and his family. He genuinlly caught the public imagination.
It may well be the case that winning the silver will prove to be a blessing. He will stay amateur and missing out on that elusive gold could well provide him with the hunger he needs to replicate his sometimes stunning performances, coupled with more experience, in 2008.
The way he has managed himself and presented himself is a credit to him and his family. He genuinlly caught the public imagination.
It may well be the case that winning the silver will prove to be a blessing. He will stay amateur and missing out on that elusive gold could well provide him with the hunger he needs to replicate his sometimes stunning performances, coupled with more experience, in 2008.
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The Cuban Bantam is Rigondeaux and he's 23. He's a good shot for the best boxer. He already has 2 golds.tonyevs wrote:Who won the Barker cup?
The first olympic boxing I watched this time was the lightheavy`s and they were also the last.
Must say I did not see any of the inbetween fights, but if these two fights were anything to go by I didn`t miss anything..
I did like the Cuban bantamweight, did I hear he is 31yrs old.
He was excellent and I think he deserved the Barker cup slightly over Kindelan for me.
What a shame the Superheavy title was won on a walkover, is this the first time, and does anybody know why the boxer failed the medical?
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That is unbelievable, how do they award the Barker cup?Southpaw Stylist wrote:The Kazakhstani Bakhtar Artyev (69kg) won the Val Barker Cup.
Unbelievable if u ask me.
He looked another Klitschko type fighter to me.
I thought the Cuban bantam Rigondeaux was the best I saw.
2 time olympic champ and still only 23, now that is special.
I can't see the benefit of Khan staying amateur for 4 more years; it's an awful long time. He certainly isn't goin to get a high level of competition here. Winning the ABAs would more of less be a formality. That's if he even gets the opportunity to enter, the ABAE have been eroding the level of competition by holding boys back for international events so now it doesn't even hold much kudos as a title. He has done brilliantly to get a silver medal, he's been in with the best light weight and held his own. I'm sure an offer will be made and the he'll say bye bye to the disorganisation of the ABAE and he shouldn't be knocked for that.
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He turns pro and he'll be fighting the kind of guys Kevin Mitchell is fighting. Developing bad habits for the first 4 years of his career blowing these guys away. While easily beating these guys everyone would be getting on his back and telling him to step it up, its just not worth it this early. He should at least leave it until after the next world championships and Commonwealth games.
I agree. There was a very telling comment from allegedly in the Independent On Sunday this week. He said that Khan should turn pro, not just because of the money, but because 'He'll have easier fights as a pro' (I'm paraphrasing slightly, but you get the point. It's an awful sentiment)Lefthookhappy19 wrote:He turns pro and he'll be fighting the kind of guys Kevin Mitchell is fighting. Developing bad habits for the first 4 years of his career blowing these guys away. While easily beating these guys everyone would be getting on his back and telling him to step it up, its just not worth it this early. He should at least leave it until after the next world championships and Commonwealth games.
I'm not sure about carrying on until Beijing, because 4 years suddenly seems a long time, especially given the way he's caught the publics imagination. But he's learnt more in 2 weeks than Kevin Mitchell has in a year or so as a pro. And he's shown also, that people want to like boxing. Everyone I know was talking about him, and these are people who couldn't even name the British heavyweight champion. I hope his success prompts promoters and Sky/BBC to start putting on fights that mean something, because the audience is there, if the fights are there.
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