Pavlik vs Abraham

alexpaterson · Post by **alexpaterson** » 27 Jun 2009, 16:27

I know none of these guys are British but im sure you would all love to see this fight. There has been a lot of diffrent opinions about this fight on the Current scene were I also posted it. And I wanted to know you guys take on the fight.
I think AA would use angles and outbox the 1 dimensional Pavlik.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 27 Jun 2009, 16:50

at 160, pavlik too strong and aa too drained

above 160, aa hands his arse to him and sends him plummeting into obscurity, the midwestern club scene, or toughmen contests.

brian13 · Post by **brian13** » 27 Jun 2009, 19:51

caffrey · Post by **caffrey** » 28 Jun 2009, 05:38

abraham is one of the biggest middleweights ive seen in recent times.he beats pavlik on points even at 160-too educated and classy

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 28 Jun 2009, 05:47

it really is a fine balance for aa at 160, vs good and average opponents

i think his fights with tough, competent europeans gevor and oral have allowed him to refine his skills and show power (sparingly) despite being near empty in the fuel department

so looking forward to his super middle campaign. if froch ever fights him he'd better stop being so easy to hit!

Bomber 1 · Post by **Bomber 1** » 28 Jun 2009, 05:58

I think Abraham is the best middleweight and super middleweight on the planet..I think he stops Pavlik! I'd love to see Kessler Vs Abraham!! Now that would be something special I feel..

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 28 Jun 2009, 06:10

i'd love to see aa v kessler. reckon aa could time his right hand over the kessler jab. kessler will be rusty due to inactivity and promoter problems.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 28 Jun 2009, 06:15

Unfortunately it's looking like Sturm next. Maybe next year.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 28 Jun 2009, 06:26

Pavlik-Sturm?

If AA was going to have 1 more big middleweight fight, I doubt he'd have fought Oral. He'd have gotten the IBF mandatory out of the way - Giovanni Lorenzo. IBF are sticklers for mandatories and we all know they will strip champions in order to keep the title "fair and busy."

With German boxing so title orientated I doubt AA would have a big fight if he didn't have a title to unify with Sturm or Pavlik.

alexpaterson · Post by **alexpaterson** » 28 Jun 2009, 07:17

IMO he should fight Pavlik then move up he is weight drained I think he would be a beast at SMW and would unify that division he is a class act

Beeston · Post by **Beeston** » 01 Jul 2009, 04:51

Abraham would beat Pavlik easily.

Other than Jermain Taylor, who has Pavlik beaten?

Gary Lockett, who quit like a bitch, Marco Antonio Whobio?

Glass Jaw Edison Miranda?

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » 01 Jul 2009, 16:43

Both overrated, Calzaghe would have outboxed the pair of them and I'd fancy Froch to beat them both as well.

In this instance I'd go for Abraham by close decision or late TKO as Pavlik has looked shite of late.

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » 01 Jul 2009, 16:44

Beeston wrote:Abraham would beat Pavlik easily.

Other than Jermain Taylor, who has Pavlik beaten?

Gary Lockett, who quit like a bitch, Marco Antonio Whobio?

Glass Jaw Edison Miranda?

"Quit like a bitch"

Sure you would have gone the full twelve rounds and beaten him easily pal?

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 01 Jul 2009, 17:20

Beeston wrote:Abraham would beat Pavlik easily.

Other than Jermain Taylor, who has Pavlik beaten?

Gary Lockett, who quit like a bitch, Marco Antonio Whobio?

Glass Jaw Edison Miranda?

Who has Abraham beaten? Elvin Ayala? Sebastian Demers? Lajuan Simon? Wayne Elcock? The best name on his record is Edison Miranada, the same guy who you are trying to descredit. Pavlik was the first to destroy him, not to mention Miranda broke Abrahams jaw in two places and outlanded him by about 100 punches.