Classic American West Coast Boxing

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Expug wrote:Thanks Randy.
Ricks right about what a classy guy Al Bernstein is.

October is right around the corner. Im looking forward to breaking bread with you and the rest of the crew.
Same here my friend! I'm looking forward to tossing a few at the bar again. Remember these photos? I hope I get a chance to shake Al Bernstein's hand.

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raylawpc wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:World Boxing Hall of Fame

The 2009 WBHOF Inductees are:

Boxer Catagory:

Orlando Canizalez
Brian Mitchell
Rafael Herrera
Lucia Rijker


Expanded Catagory:

Al Bernstein
Dr. James Jen Kin
Amilcar Brusa


Posthumous:

Joe Dixon
Alphonse Halimi
Lily Rodriguez




-Rick Farris
WBHOF Selection Commitee Chairman
I only voted for one of those guys and gals. :oo :oo :oo

Who the heck is Joe Dixon?
Heck!, I forgot who I voted for... :lol:

I think Joe Dixon was before my dad's time... :lol:
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Gotta be George Dixon.
Thats who I figured. He belongs in the Hall no doubt.
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Randyman wrote:
Expug wrote:Thanks Randy.
Ricks right about what a classy guy Al Bernstein is.

October is right around the corner. Im looking forward to breaking bread with you and the rest of the crew.
Same here my friend! I'm looking forward to tossing a few at the bar again. Remember these photos? I hope I get a chance to shake Al Bernstein's hand.

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Randy

Good Times.
Is Jeri gonna be there also Randy?
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Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:Absolutely Shocking!! Rocky was a hell of a fighter. He literally fought all the best of his era and ducked no one. This is just too much!

Rocky's record reads like a who's who:
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer
Looking at Rocky Lockridge record I see that he fought Eusebio Pedroza twice, coming short both times, and in Pedroza's record I see he fought Ernesto Herrera for the WBA world featherweight title (7-2-1978), Pedroza winning by late round ko, on September 21, 1978 Frankie fought Herrera at the Olympic, Frankie won by a 5th round ko.
You didn't baby the boys with soft touches , did you Frank? Both were standout contenders in a tough era. I can't imagine someone like Victor Ortiz going the distance with Tony the Tiger. it was a different time.

Randy
No, I didn't baby the boys, Ortiz vs Tony? Tony by ko, and I don't say that because Tony is my son. Frankie and Tony would never quit, proof of that is Frankie's fight vs Juan Escober and Tony's fight vs Robin Blake
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Expug wrote:Gotta be George Dixon.
Thats who I figured. He belongs in the Hall no doubt.
It is. (Rick e-mailed sometime ago that Dixon was in). I was just pulling Rick's chain a bit. :wink: :wink:

Its fitting Dixon is making it in this year. Dixon died one hundred years ago.
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kikibalt wrote:
raylawpc wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:World Boxing Hall of Fame

The 2009 WBHOF Inductees are:

Boxer Catagory:

Orlando Canizalez
Brian Mitchell
Rafael Herrera
Lucia Rijker


Expanded Catagory:

Al Bernstein
Dr. James Jen Kin
Amilcar Brusa


Posthumous:

Joe Dixon
Alphonse Halimi
Lily Rodriguez




-Rick Farris
WBHOF Selection Commitee Chairman
I only voted for one of those guys and gals. :oo :oo :oo

Who the heck is Joe Dixon?
Heck!, I forgot who I voted for... :lol:

I think Joe Dixon was before my dad's time... :lol:
Frank, speaking of dads, remember "Oh My Papa"?
Here are two versions, the first by Eddie Fisher, the second by The Everly Brothers.
It brings a tear to my eye whenever I hear it, no matter who sings it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F-LqT3c-Ag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F-LqT3c-Ag

Randy :(
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I remember Tonys fight with Blake so well that I remember where I was and who I was with when I watched it.
It was a great fight. The thing I liked about Tonys fights was he was always dangerous. You watched him and thought at any time he can take a guy out. No matter what was going on. Very , very dangerous puncher.
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Expug wrote:
Randyman wrote:
Expug wrote:Thanks Randy.
Ricks right about what a classy guy Al Bernstein is.

October is right around the corner. Im looking forward to breaking bread with you and the rest of the crew.
Same here my friend! I'm looking forward to tossing a few at the bar again. Remember these photos? I hope I get a chance to shake Al Bernstein's hand.

Image

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Randy

Good Times.
Is Jeri gonna be there also Randy?
Yes, she'll be there. She's looking forward to it too. On the way home from the Hall of Fame last year she couldn't believe that most of us met for the first time that night. She said we acted like we were old high school friends that had known each other for years. You can't fake that kind of connection!! I can't wait!!

Randy :box:
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Expug wrote:I remember Tonys fight with Blake so well that I remember where I was and who I was with when I watched it.
It was a great fight. The thing I liked about Tonys fights was he was always dangerous. You watched him and thought at any time he can take a guy out. No matter what was going on. Very , very dangerous puncher.
Hence the name Tony the Tiger! They had the right stuff!
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Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
raylawpc wrote:World Boxing Hall of Fame

The 2009 WBHOF Inductees are:

Boxer Catagory:

Orlando Canizalez
Brian Mitchell
Rafael Herrera
Lucia Rijker


Expanded Catagory:

Al Bernstein
Dr. James Jen Kin
Amilcar Brusa


Posthumous:

Joe Dixon
Alphonse Halimi
Lily Rodriguez




-Rick Farris
WBHOF Selection Commitee Chairman

I only voted for one of those guys and gals. :oo :oo :oo

Who the heck is Joe Dixon?
Heck!, I forgot who I voted for... :lol:

I think Joe Dixon was before my dad's time... :lol:
Frank, speaking of dads, remember "Oh My Papa"?
Here are two versions, the first by Eddie Fisher, the second by The Everly Brothers.
It brings a tear to my eye whenever I hear it, no matter who sings it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F-LqT3c-Ag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F-LqT3c-Ag

Randy :(
Remember that song real well, Randy. Great song.
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kikibalt wrote: No, I didn't baby the boys, Ortiz vs Tony? Tony by ko, and I don't say that because Tony is my son. Frankie and Tony would never quit, proof of that is Frankie's fight vs Juan Escober and Tony's fight vs Robin Blake
I'm not saying this because he's your son either Frank but if Ortiz had been facing either Tony or Frankie he'd have crapped his pants for sure. Tony was pretty aggressive and when he came on it could take the starch out of a guy.

Randy
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Expug wrote:I remember Tonys fight with Blake so well that I remember where I was and who I was with when I watched it.
It was a great fight. The thing I liked about Tonys fights was he was always dangerous. You watched him and thought at any time he can take a guy out. No matter what was going on. Very , very dangerous puncher.
Tony as a lightweight, 135 lbs, was a one punch knockout artist, he lost some power when he moved up in weight, like most fighters do when they move up.
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Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote: No, I didn't baby the boys, Ortiz vs Tony? Tony by ko, and I don't say that because Tony is my son. Frankie and Tony would never quit, proof of that is Frankie's fight vs Juan Escober and Tony's fight vs Robin Blake
I'm not saying this because he's your son either Frank but if Ortiz had been facing either Tony or Frankie he'd have crapped his pants for sure. Tony was pretty aggressive and when he came on it could take the starch out of a guy.

Randy
Thanks Randy, the boys were true fighters, no b-s about them.
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kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote: No, I didn't baby the boys, Ortiz vs Tony? Tony by ko, and I don't say that because Tony is my son. Frankie and Tony would never quit, proof of that is Frankie's fight vs Juan Escober and Tony's fight vs Robin Blake
I'm not saying this because he's your son either Frank but if Ortiz had been facing either Tony or Frankie he'd have crapped his pants for sure. Tony was pretty aggressive and when he came on it could take the starch out of a guy.

Randy
Thanks Randy, the boys were true fighters, no b-s about them.
Frank, I wish I could have had half the careers that Frankie and Tony had! Too bad I didn't meet you when I was young! I might have had one.

No BS about them is right. I haven't met the other boys but Frankie sure has his head screwed on right. I'm sure it's the same with all your sons!You done good Frank. I know they grew up in Puente. Tough area!

Randy :bow:
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Time to get ready for bed. The morning comes quick. Gotta get up at 3:30 :witzend:

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Went to visit my brother Mando up in Wrightwood in the San Gabriel Mts., shot some pictures, which I'll posts some of them.

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Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
kikibalt wrote: No, I didn't baby the boys, Ortiz vs Tony? Tony by ko, and I don't say that because Tony is my son. Frankie and Tony would never quit, proof of that is Frankie's fight vs Juan Escober and Tony's fight vs Robin Blake

I'm not saying this because he's your son either Frank but if Ortiz had been facing either Tony or Frankie he'd have crapped his pants for sure. Tony was pretty aggressive and when he came on it could take the starch out of a guy.

Randy
Thanks Randy, the boys were true fighters, no b-s about them.
Frank, I wish I could have had half the careers that Frankie and Tony had! Too bad I didn't meet you when I was young! I might have had one.

No BS about them is right. I haven't met the other boys but Frankie sure has his head screwed on right. I'm sure it's the same with all your sons!You done good Frank. I know they grew up in Puente. Tough area!

Randy :bow:
Thanks Randy, yeah, the boys're all good guys. the area? it is rough around here, but it was not like that all the time, I been in my house here since 1967, when We first moved here it was real nice, safe and quiet, not no more!.
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raylawpc wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:World Boxing Hall of Fame

The 2009 WBHOF Inductees are:

Boxer Catagory:

Orlando Canizalez
Brian Mitchell
Rafael Herrera
Lucia Rijker


Expanded Catagory:

Al Bernstein
Dr. James Jen Kin
Amilcar Brusa


Posthumous:

Joe Dixon
Alphonse Halimi
Lily Rodriguez




-Rick Farris
WBHOF Selection Commitee Chairman
I only voted for one of those guys and gals. :oo :oo :oo

Who the heck is Joe Dixon?

I think he's George's alter-ego :o , or, maybe I just made a mistake. :witzend:
Tom, I'll try to get it correct in the program.
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Expug wrote:Thanks Randy.
Ricks right about what a classy guy Al Bernstein is.

October is right around the corner. Im looking forward to breaking bread with you and the rest of the crew.
Same here, Brian. I have a couple Chicago guys I'd like you and Dan to meet.


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kikibalt wrote:
raylawpc wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:World Boxing Hall of Fame

The 2009 WBHOF Inductees are:

Boxer Catagory:

Orlando Canizalez
Brian Mitchell
Rafael Herrera
Lucia Rijker


Expanded Catagory:

Al Bernstein
Dr. James Jen Kin
Amilcar Brusa


Posthumous:

George Dixon
Alphonse Halimi
Lily Rodriguez




-Rick Farris
WBHOF Selection Commitee Chairman
I only voted for one of those guys and gals. :oo :oo :oo

Who the heck is Joe Dixon?
Heck!, I forgot who I voted for... :lol:

I think Joe Dixon was before my dad's time... :lol:

George Dixon was the first black fighter to ever win a world boxing championship. In the 1890's, he held both the bantamweight and featherweight title. Tom Ray can take credit for his induction this year. I wasn't up on every single "inducted" boxer when I started out here, and there were many who have been overlooked. As I started to dig thru the records I found that several of the boxers who had been inducted were not listed on the roll call. Jimmy Lennon Sr. was not listed, although junior was. Charley Goldman, Jake Shagrue, and quite a few others were not listed. Other names were mispelled (Jack Blackburn was listed as "Mack Blackburn"). I was amazed that they had let the program be printed without one previous board member aware of the incomplete list. How could that happen? Sine I found the discrepency, I'm fixing it. If it's not totally accurate, you can put the blame on me. The World Boxing Hall of Fame, today, consistes of a banquet and a program. That program is the WBHOF. It has the potential to be a nice publication, but the Hall of Fame is about preserving history, and should be accountable for "honoring" legends, not ignoring them. Of course, the first thing I do when I list the names of the "new" inductees is list "George" as "Joe" :KO: (and I'm the one who put the name in for immediate induction.) I know who he was, but you gotta take into consideration I akso took a few shots to the head myself, so I'll use that as my excuse. :oops:


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We are maybe two weeks from 20,000 posts, and closer to 800 pages.
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kikibalt wrote:Went to visit my brother Mando up in Wrightwood in the San Gabriel Mts., shot some pictures, which I'll posts some of them.

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Frank . . . I bought an African Grey for my 2nd wife. They are the best talkers of all of the parrots. They not only say the words, but in the exact voice they hear them. I'd be in the backyard and here my wife call me inside the house. I'd go in and discover it was the damn bird calling.


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Randyman wrote:
Expug wrote:Thanks Randy.
Ricks right about what a classy guy Al Bernstein is.

October is right around the corner. Im looking forward to breaking bread with you and the rest of the crew.
Same here my friend! I'm looking forward to tossing a few at the bar again. Remember these photos? I hope I get a chance to shake Al Bernstein's hand.

Image

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Is this the recent veterans night at Sinatra's club? :wink:
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Rick Farris wrote:
George Dixon was the first black fighter to ever win a world boxing championship. In the 1890's, he held both the bantamweight and featherweight title. Tom Ray can take credit for his induction this year. I wasn't up on every single "inducted" boxer when I started out here, and there were many who have been overlooked. As I started to dig thru the records I found that several of the boxers who had been inducted were not listed on the roll call. Jimmy Lennon Sr. was not listed, although junior was. Charley Goldman, Jake Shagrue, and quite a few others were not listed. Other names were mispelled (Jack Blackburn was listed as "Mack Blackburn"). I was amazed that they had let the program be printed without one previous board member aware of the incomplete list. How could that happen? Sine I found the discrepency, I'm fixing it. If it's not totally accurate, you can put the blame on me. The World Boxing Hall of Fame, today, consistes of a banquet and a program. That program is the WBHOF. It has the potential to be a nice publication, but the Hall of Fame is about preserving history, and should be accountable for "honoring" legends, not ignoring them. Of course, the first thing I do when I list the names of the "new" inductees is list "George" as "Joe" :KO: (and I'm the one who put the name in for immediate induction.) I know who he was, but you gotta take into consideration I akso took a few shots to the head myself, so I'll use that as my excuse. :oops:


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If that's the case, they really do need to ban boxing because I only had a handful of amateur fights, and I make the same kind of mistake all the time. I take comfort when somebody else my age does the same thing.

Fortunately, the guy you did it to has been dead for 100 years, so he won't care. I do it with clients. This is what it sounds like in my office all the time:

"Have you finished that deed for Joe Dixon?"

"Who?"

"Joe Dixon."

"Don't you mean George Dixon?"

"That's what I said."

"No, you said Joe Dixon."

"I did? :-? :oops: :-? :oops: "

My son calls this lapse of memory a "brain fart." (As in - "Dad had another brain fart.") A very apt description, if you ask me.

Thank goodness I haven't had a brain fart in front of a client - so far . . .
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