Meehan challenges winner of Tua vs Cameron

[foxdog1923]

Look here Hounddog Bob Fitzsimmons thought for NZ check boxrec.com, wikkipedia and any other factual sites your info is lies. Aussie hasnt had a world heavyweight champ, we have so check it. David Tua, Shane Cameron, Jimmy Peau, Mark Hunt, Ray Sefo, Kali Meehan started in NZ. Imagine all those guy against Aussie top heavyweights....that right a KNOCKOUT victory for all of them.. Please check Fitzsimmons from Timaru I believe nit Aus nothing about Aus lol.

[foxdog1923]

I know Davd Jack, Bob Fitzsimmons nephew. If you go to his house you'll see a picture of Bob the heavyweight champ with the NZ flag. Lived in Timaru moved from England as a young lad World Hall of Famer as a Kiwi and NZ Hall of famer...check your facts you probably just heard of Bob Fitzsimmons when I mentioned him the 1st time..you got no knowledge of boxing history hounddog. Your probably a white man who thinks Jack Johnson is white...no idea

[Hounddawg]

I know Davd Jack, Bob Fitzsimmons nephew. If you go to his house you'll see a picture of Bob the heavyweight champ with the NZ flag. Lived in Timaru moved from England as a young lad World Hall of Famer as a Kiwi and NZ Hall of famer...check your facts you probably just heard of Bob Fitzsimmons when I mentioned him the 1st time..you got no knowledge of boxing history hounddog. Your probably a white man who thinks Jack Johnson is white...no idea

Mate enough of talking shit from you my friend here's his status historically and his record from Boxrec.com(which you suggested i look up) please note his nationaionality dipshit please check his fight history and when you find a scheduled fight of his in NZ then you can say i dont know shit. Mate you just right click the link.

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer

What the fornicate has my complexion got to do with anything you fucken racist pudendum.
Mate you want to watch what you say boy.

[foxdog1923]

You are so dumb houndog...you live in aussie skinheads heaps of them and abo's havin hard time over there. You know nothing go to google Bob Fitzsimmons go to his page and read and weep. Im sendin your comments to his nephew who would laugh at you. Be honest you didnt even know we had a world champ...'fighting out of NZ Bob Fitzsimmons' home of hard big boys...one day Aussie might have a tough guy untill then...our heavyweights will knockout aussie heavyweights FACT

[foxdog1923]

you first learnt of Fitzsimmons when you looked him up on boxrec.com then you turn around and talk like you know it all. You know nothing about boxing Ive boxed you obviously havnt. I know his whole history Bob was just the first of many kiwi heavyweights to follow. Why dont you comment on the others? Why cant you mention any aussie heavyweights? thats right theirs none in the same calibur as the guys Ive mentioned...Sucker

[foxdog1923]

another of your many lies is Fiji, Samoa, Tonga and New Zealand does not equal the same amount of people in Aus not even close..whoever thinks NZ and AUS are on the same playing field is blind and dont know the facts they obviously believe in their lies like houndog. Aus is just following NZs lead in snapping up us islanders to play rugby, league or fight for them. Something NZs done since 1970s. So dont even mess with me doggy boy

[foxdog1923]

Geez houndog Ive read another of your mistakes or lies...about shane cameron being world class if you can read properly i didnt write down cameron being world class check again like so many things you need to check....that would be an example of all your facts they need checking my facts are that, facts. Another, yes everybody another mistake/lies that you made houndog is that when Tua goes to fight they say fightin out of sth aklnd NZ just like Fitzsimmons...god houndog did you ever box? No...can you admit the truth? no

[Sweet P]

Didnt Fitzsimmins learn his trade in Sydney before heading over to the Us. Ive read many books on him and im sure he come to Aus to learn his skills better and then moved on to the US.

[Sweet P]

looked at his record i was right, Your kidding yourself Hotdog. Fitzsimmins learnt most of his boxing skills whilst being trained in Sydney.

Here is what i got from his Wiki


Fitzsimmons (Jezu), the youngest of 12 children, was born in Helston, Cornwall in the UK. His father was James Fitzsimmons, born in County Armagh, Ireland and his mother was Jane Strongman born in St Clement, Cornwall. Bob emigrated to New Zealand at the age of nine along with his parents, brothers and sisters. His family settled in Timaru and Bob became a blacksmith in his brother Jarrett's smithy.

Between 1880 and 1881, Fitzsimmons reigned as champion of the Jem Mace tournament in New Zealand. Some say he officially began his career as a professional boxer in New Zealand later in 1881. Records remain unclear whether he received payment for a bout in which he knocked out Herbert Slade in two rounds.

Fitzsimmons had six fights there, two of them bare-knuckle events. He won one and lost five, it remains unclear whether any of those bouts involved payment.

Boxing record-books show that Fitzsimmons officially began boxing professionally in 1883, in Australia. He beat Jim Crawford there by getting a knockout in three rounds. Fitzsimmons had his first 28 definite professional fights in Australia, where he lost for the Australian Middleweight title (rumours spoke of a fixed bout), and where he also won a fight by knockout while on the floor: when Edward Starlight Robins dropped Fitzsimmons to the canvas in round nine of their fight, he also broke his hand and could not continue, therefore the referee declared Fitzsimmons the winner by a knockout.

By this stage Fitzsimmons had established his own style. He developed a certain movement and caginess from one of the greatest bare-knuckle fighters, Jem Mace. Mace had encouraged Bob to develop his punching technique and he revolutionised this, drawing on the enormous power he had gained from blacksmithing. Fitzsimmons delivered short, accurate and usually conclusive punches. He soon built up a reputation as by far the hardest puncher in boxing.


The birthplace of Bob Fitzsimmons in Helston, Cornwall
[edit] Winning the Middleweight title
Moving on to the United States, Fitzsimmons fought four more times in 1890, winning three and drawing one.

[Sweet P]

He was trained in Sydney By Jem Mace. He learnt how to root Sheep in NZ not Box Only joking mate

[foxdog1923]

yes he did further his trainning in Aus. Australia has always had great trainning methods and closer ties with the states and the UK that would have fed them all the latest trainning tips and fighters who go over and bring back valuable info. Australia is far advanced in trainning at least IM honest and can admit the truth(not like houndog who cant give NZ any credit or look for ways to take away credit) but yeah he did. If your a heavyweight boxer who started punching a bag in NZ you got a good chance of going far in AUS.

[Sweet P]

yes he did further his trainning in Aus. Australia has always had great trainning methods and closer ties with the states and the UK that would have fed them all the latest trainning tips and fighters who go over and bring back valuable info. Australia is far advanced in trainning at least IM honest and can admit the truth(not like houndog who cant give NZ any credit or look for ways to take away credit) but yeah he did. If your a heavyweight boxer who started punching a bag in NZ you got a good chance of going far in AUS.

Im not going to take credit from him living in NZ and having a few fights there. He would have got a lot of his strength and toughness working in a blacksmiths shop as did our own Les Darcy. And im sure thats What Mace would have seen in him when encouraging him to come Down under.

[foxdog1923]

one thing you cant deny is the states and the boxing world know Fitzsimmons as the kiwi heavyweight champion of the world. Not aussie who try to claim everyone that comes from NZ which is obvious throughout these 3 pages. Aussie wankerbies are 1 punch knockouts lol

[buster007]

he's english not a kiwi.

your making a big song and dance about someone born and bred in another country.

your contradicting yourself mr. i love big kiwi boys.

[foxdog1923]

Look his own nephew has just got back to me lol (David Jack proud nephew of Fitzsimmons) he couldnt believe what was being said about his uncle. He says "oh no there claiming him" and starts laughing...well at least you guys give me and dave and the boys at the gym something to laugh about tommorow night. He even said that Aussie even claims Sonny Bill Williams..geez is there anyone in aussie that aussie wants to claim or do they like to learn about great kiwis and then claim them. Ben k your a laugh taking the time out to look for ways to learn about a NZ recognized hall of famer and then believing in your own lies about him representing Aussie (thats what Dave Fitzsimmons nephew has to say about you)...thanks for the laugh

[foxdog1923]

yes buster but he is proof NZ had a world Heavyweight champ. Ask any old school boxer.

[Sweet P]

Look his own nephew has just got back to me lol (David Jack proud nephew of Fitzsimmons) he couldnt believe what was being said about his uncle. He says "oh no there claiming him" and starts laughing...well at least you guys give me and dave and the boys at the gym something to laugh about tommorow night. He even said that Aussie even claims Sonny Bill Williams..geez is there anyone in aussie that aussie wants to claim or do they like to learn about great kiwis and then claim them. Ben k your a laugh taking the time out to look for ways to learn about a NZ recognized hall of famer and then believing in your own lies about him representing Aussie (thats what Dave Fitzsimmons nephew has to say about you)...thanks for the laugh

I didnt take time out, Ive known about him for fornicating years. I have hundreds of DVD's on boxing and every book ive seen on the sport ive bought.

I put that on for you you dipshit.
And we arnt trying to claim him simply telling you the facts.
He was born in England. Lived in NZ until 21 then moved to Sydney to train under Jem Mace and Foley. Who in fact had one of the best Gyms in the world at that time.

[Sweet P]

Ive will never discredit Fitzsimmons as he is one of the all time greats, The first man to win a title in 3 weight divisions and gave away huge size diffrence's in a lot of those fights. If you had a clue about boxing you would no about all the greats but i suppose your just on here to talk shit about Aussies and Talk up NZ.

[Sweet P]

Where have i tried to claim him being an Aussie. He trained here. Can you comprehend what your reading.

[Sweet P]

You are so dumb houndog...you live in aussie skinheads heaps of them and abo's havin hard time over there. You know nothing go to google Bob Fitzsimmons go to his page and read and weep. Im sendin your comments to his nephew who would laugh at you. Be honest you didnt even know we had a world champ...'fighting out of NZ Bob Fitzsimmons' home of hard big boys...one day Aussie might have a tough guy untill then...our heavyweights will knockout aussie heavyweights FACT

You are a goose. You come onto a Boxing site and start talking Bullshit.

If you don't know who Fitzsimmins is then you shouldnt be on here.

He is right up there With John L Sullivan and Corbett for turn of the century boxers.
You really have no idea.

And if there's is one more racist comment you will be banned from here.

[Sweet P]

Skinheads and heaps of them

There fornicating everywere the skinheads. You cant leave your house at night

[foxdog1923]

Theres no skinheads in NZ you clown and Ill have you banned from here. His own(fitzsimmons) nephew laughs at you ben k. I was the 1st one to mention Fitzsimmons then you and houndog went looking him up and coming back with info you even said "oh here it is i was correct" thats proof you jus looked him up. Have you ever boxed before ben k? Have you ever represented your country for boxing? NO....until then you cant even talk to me...this forums for boxers not 1 punch KOs like you boy

[foxdog1923]

looked at his record i was right, Your kidding yourself Hotdog. Fitzsimmins learnt most of his boxing skills whilst being trained in Sydney.

Here is what i got from his Wiki

That is what you wrote before when you were looking him up now look at what you wrote after. Look underneath hipercrit

I didnt take time out, Ive known about him for effing years. I have hundreds of DVD's on boxing and every book ive seen on the sport ive bought.

LOL.....What a proven liar...I rest my case DAHAHAHA

[foxdog1923]

Have you red that up above ben k? proof your a liar....never knew about Fitzsimmons until a boxer like me came on and told yous about what us kiwis have known for years..fake ass...READ AND WEEP

[toppity]

Just to clarify a fact that can be proven.

If there is going to be any banning I think that Ben might come out on top. He is one of only two moderators able to ban posters.

Also this forum is for everyone who enjoys boxing, not just boxers. I've never boxed professionally, and I'm not going anywhere. However, it should once again that there are other people directly involved in boxing, trainers, fighters families and officials who post here. Ben is also one of those.

BTW, Wiki is one of the least reliable sources on information on the internet. The info there is usually far from factual.

I really do not give a sh1t tbh...... but this is only going to end in tears.