Should I include Ola Afolabi in my British Top 30 P4P list?

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 03 Jul 2009, 16:30

Afolabi was born, and spent the first 20 years of his life, in Britain and he has a British passport; but he has only fought one professional fight in Britain and may never come back.

So, should I include Ola Afolabi in my British Top 30 P4P list?

I know some people don't care about my list, but if those people could offer their opinion anyway then that would be helpful.

Dioufy · Post by **Dioufy** » 03 Jul 2009, 16:31

I think so, mate.

jammidodger · Post by **jammidodger** » 03 Jul 2009, 16:56

i say yes too dude.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 03 Jul 2009, 17:01

Though he is only 28, Ola has already had quite an eventful life. He has called three countries his home, and though he is now based in the US he wears a Union Jack on his shorts when he fights.

"I've read in places that I was born in Nigeria. That is totally false. I was born in London. I went to college in London. I have always been introduced as from London, England, and I wear the Union Jack on my shorts. I always get booed! I watched boxing on T.V - I followed Lennox Lewis and Mike Tyson when I was a young guy, and I also like Muhammad Ali. I just fell in love with boxing."

sgtcecil · Post by **sgtcecil** » 03 Jul 2009, 17:33

hurlock · Post by **hurlock** » 03 Jul 2009, 18:10

wtf ?? all time??? wot?

there's what 14 weight division's & he's beat the number 1,i'd thought he'd get a ranking.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 03 Jul 2009, 18:35

hurlock wrote:wtf ?? all time??? wot?

there's what 14 weight division's & he's beat the number 1,i'd thought he'd get a ranking.

He didn't beat the No.1.

Are you responding to the correct thread?

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 03 Jul 2009, 19:07

Coco · Post by **Coco** » 03 Jul 2009, 20:53

Born and lived in the uk for his first 20 years of life, has a British passport, speaks with a local accent, he considers himself British, has been licensed to fight in Britain, for me all this should qualify him to be British enough to be on Horse's list.
The biggest question though is whether beating Maccrinelli is enough to put him in the top 30

teddy007 · Post by **teddy007** » 04 Jul 2009, 02:48

Coco wrote:Born and lived in the uk for his first 20 years of life, has a British passport, speaks with a local accent, he considers himself British, has been licensed to fight in Britain, for me all this should qualify him to be British enough to be on Horse's list.
The biggest question though is whether beating Maccrinelli is enough to put him in the top 30

Well going by that list he should as maccarenelli is ranked, I think he should be just above Enzo.

Finn · Post by **Finn** » 04 Jul 2009, 03:10

He's the best cruiserweight in the world at the moment and he's British. Ola Afolabi beautiful british name.

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 04 Jul 2009, 03:19

kingfinn wrote:He's the best cruiserweight in the world at the moment and he's British. Ola Afolabi beautiful british name.

What justification do you have for Afolabi being the best cruiserweight in the world? He was well down against Enzo before he won and there are multiple other guys with more impressive resumes then his.

telboy66 · Post by **telboy66** » 04 Jul 2009, 03:59

Of course you should, born here makes you British just as much as Lenox Lewis,Greg rudekski (excuse the spelling) you are where you are born no question some thing that a lot of British born Muslims should take onboard. The BNP might not agree with my opinion but who the fornicate are they

Finn · Post by **Finn** » 04 Jul 2009, 04:15

crusader wrote:
kingfinn wrote:He's the best cruiserweight in the world at the moment and he's British. Ola Afolabi beautiful british name.
What justification do you have for Afolabi being the best cruiserweight in the world? He was well down against Enzo before he won and there are multiple other guys with more impressive resumes then his.

Anybody could see that he was deliberatley looking to lean back on the ropes and then drop a bomb on macca. I dont see that as being well down, thats like saying Ali was well down to foreman. Its a different kettle of fish when its deliberate.

I can argue he's the best in the world because hes currently ranked 5th and he's the only one in the top 5 who hasnt had a loss in the last five years and in his last fight he Knocked out the former world champ.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 04 Jul 2009, 05:32

telboy66 wrote:Of course you should, born here makes you British just as much as Lenox Lewis,Greg rudekski (excuse the spelling) you are where you are born no question some thing that a lot of British born Muslims should take onboard.

Perhaps a lot of British born Muslims have their own ideas of what constitutes national identity and they would disagree with your notion.

Finn · Post by **Finn** » 04 Jul 2009, 05:55

Horse wrote:
telboy66 wrote:Of course you should, born here makes you British just as much as Lenox Lewis,Greg rudekski (excuse the spelling) you are where you are born no question some thing that a lot of British born Muslims should take onboard.
Perhaps a lot of British born Muslims have their own ideas of what constitutes national identity and they would disagree with your notion.

lets not turn this into a racial issue. however the pakistanis do seem to segregate themselves alot more than the indians. Thats why its important to have people like khan who are proud of being british and pakistani.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 04 Jul 2009, 06:15

First 20 years? Oh yes. First nine years? Nope.

twenty six · Post by **twenty six** » 04 Jul 2009, 08:56

FFS the fact you're even having to ask everyone else Horse sums it up.
Get him on there.

dazzler · Post by **dazzler** » 04 Jul 2009, 09:31

crusader wrote:
kingfinn wrote:He's the best cruiserweight in the world at the moment and he's British. Ola Afolabi beautiful british name.
What justification do you have for Afolabi being the best cruiserweight in the world? He was well down against Enzo before he won and there are multiple other guys with more impressive resumes then his.

He was fighting to a gameplan that came off perfectly. Look at any round by round thread on any forum and you'll see people were saying that Enzo looked like he was in danger of having a nasty accident, and he did. It was a great performance against an admittedly not well prepared Macca.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 04 Jul 2009, 10:38

twenty six wrote:FFS the fact you're even having to ask everyone else Horse sums it up.
Get him on there.

Sums what up? You don't think that I should ask for other people's opinions?

Khaosai-Galaxy · Post by **Khaosai-Galaxy** » 04 Jul 2009, 12:37

Horse wrote:Afolabi was born, and spent the first 20 years of his life, in Britain and he has a British passport;

hmmmmm should someone born and raised in the UK be considered "British" by an autistic bloke from the internet?????*

I cant wait to see people's opinions on this, very important issue

*Even Nick Griffin would probably conceded that he should be....

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 04 Jul 2009, 12:48

Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:hmmmmm should someone born and raised in the UK be considered "British" by an autistic bloke from the internet?????*

Does an autistic person's opinion matter less than other people's?

Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:I cant wait to see people's opinions on this, very important issue

Quite a few people have already offered their opinions, so you don't have to wait to see other's opinions on this issue.

Dioufy · Post by **Dioufy** » 04 Jul 2009, 14:12

I believe Macca could've beaten Ola if his heart was in it. Ola had him dancing in round three, but apart from that, he just threw punches after Macca's punches were ineffective. Ola has a good chin, but a points win was gettable for Macca if he fought/trained correctly.

Which he didn't.

alexpaterson · Post by **alexpaterson** » 04 Jul 2009, 14:44

He calls himself British he was born and bred in Britian I think he should be included

twenty six · Post by **twenty six** » 04 Jul 2009, 15:42

Horse,
The very people you are asking are those you told to go forth and multiply when you were asked to do this before.