anybody interested in Enzo?

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 03 Sep 2004, 16:46

he's on in a few.

I don't know the guy he's fighting but knowing SN I'm sure he will get KO'd quickly.

Does he have a chance?

Might watch it if theres nothing else on but I don't know... I think I'd rather watch the US open to be honest.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 03 Sep 2004, 16:48

What Enzo's on now?! Shit am i missing it

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 03 Sep 2004, 16:52

lol...

sky sports 1 at 10

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 03 Sep 2004, 16:56

I'm not so certain Enzo will KO him early, this guy has survivor written all over him. Enzo quickly ran out of ideas the last time (for me, any fighter who has been active who says he planned to do the rounds is lying).

I think it will be interesting, I fear his last outing taught us more about Enzo's creditials as a world force than all his other's. He struggled to break down a survivor, imagine what he'll do against a survivor with a little skill (Johnny Nelson).

I think Enzo might sneek a late KO here, but wouldn't be surprised if it is another snoozefest.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 03 Sep 2004, 17:10

Enzo to wear him down for a stoppage in round eight

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 03 Sep 2004, 17:12

I'm hoping Enzo has leart a few new tricks from the Ismail Abdoul fight,

I'm going for a Enzo win in 6-8 rounds.

But I'm still not convinced Enzo will be World class one day to be honest.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 03 Sep 2004, 17:14

Kristiansen can be KOed quick, I would actually be surprised if the fight goes past 3 rounds.

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 03 Sep 2004, 18:21

enzo looked very poor to me in there.

I was just imagining him in there with Haye or Nelson... Not good for him!

I just don't think he's a good boxer. Take away his power, and he'd struggle big-time.

Warren was sickening when talking about Khan. I HOPE Khan is sensible enough not to go to Warren!!

And I'm disgusted with the stoppage of Monaghan!

I was screaming at the TV, what was the ref thinking. It was a very premature stoppage. Lockett looked good though but it was early.

Cannibal · Post by **Cannibal** » 03 Sep 2004, 20:14

Enzo looked very hitable to me, he dominated but was open for hitting a lot. If Kristiansen had a bit of power in his punches Enzo would of been forced to think twice about the way he was fighting.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 03 Sep 2004, 20:22

Oh well another prediction down the drain.

I was actually very impressed with Enzo tonight, he showed the variety that was missing in his last fight - mixing head and body nicely for a big guy. I think he's ready for Nelson now.

I agree, he is not as smooth as Haye, but he is a different type of fighter - he has got a much wider upper body and he might be able to out strength Haye. Although, again his jab is poor.

Completely agree that the stoppage of Monaghan was very premature (Michael threw a punch less than 5 seconds before the stoppage). However, good performance by Lockett he looked back to his best and ready for anyone in the devision (bar Eastman).

What I didn't like about Lockett was his post fight interview, gave me the impression of being a whinger. He asked Ed Robinson for his views and Ed gave it to him straight, but he didn't seem to be able to take it. Also, when Ed mentioned the controversial first fight, Lockett whining "what controversy" - it was he who said before that the fight could have gone either why. Why have a go at Ed, he was only saying what Gary thought immediately after the fight.

He did sound hungry though, and I hope he gets these fights.

Can't say I was impressed with any of the other Welsh fighters on the TV undercard. Tony Doherty is a big talent in my view, but his talent is being neglected by going over old ground. His box office appeal is going down because of a low KO %, but Naz's KO percentage would be low if he only fought the likes of Buckely and Coleman.

Doherty can punch, although I'm not convinced about his stamina - he always seems to slow up considerably in the latter stages and did so tonight. Glen spoke of some concerns, and I too share those.

Bradley Pryce came unstuck again and this time I cannot see him coming back, he looked a faded force early on I thought. His balance didn't look right and his punches had no snap. However, his opponent was an absolute revalation - if he can get British citzenship we could very well have a very good addition to the scene. I would put him in with Colin Lynes ASAP and I think he would win comfortably. Very impressed with him.

As for Gavin Rees, he looked disinterested there and he fought like he has had poor preperation (I won't discuss it futher, cause Sky didn't). Jim Watts faults on him were well noticed and very acurate.

I thought, generally a poor night for the Welsh, 2 impressed, 3 didn't. Very concerned about the preperation for most of the Welsh fighters also - only Bradley Pryce looked cut. Doherty and Rees look like they should be fighting a weight below and Lockett and Macrinelli didn't have a washboard stomach.

dbf · Post by **dbf** » 04 Sep 2004, 07:42

tuaman2004 wrote:We all now know why Calzaghe pulled out now!!!!!

why?

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 04 Sep 2004, 08:18

stujones wrote: I would put him in with Colin Lynes ASAP and I think he would win comfortably.

Why Lynes? The match with Pryce was at welterweight...

glittermonkey · Post by **glittermonkey** » 04 Sep 2004, 08:19

Although there were plus points for Enzo (see stu's post), i was still concerned about his defence. There is virtually no upper-body or head movement, and he is so upright it's almost unbelievable. Even though last nights win was very comfortable, he was still being caught with punches that he shouldn't have had to take.

IMO, he's nowhere near good enough to beat the likes of Nelson, who'll just box him silly. And i'm genuinely concerned that when he goes in with a big puncher he'll be stopped.

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 04 Sep 2004, 08:31

glittermonkey wrote:There is virtually no upper-body or head movement, and he is so upright it's almost unbelievable.

I saw him live against Delaney and couldn't agree more with you. I haven't seen his latest fight but it doesn't sound like he's improving his defence, which has to be huge cause for concern given his suspect whiskers.

maverick · Post by **maverick** » 04 Sep 2004, 08:47

Stujones wrote:

Completely agree that the stoppage of Monaghan was very premature (Michael threw a punch less than 5 seconds before the stoppage). However, good performance by Lockett he looked back to his best and ready for anyone in the devision (bar Eastman).

Yeh u could argue it was premature but I thought that Locket was gona stop him still he was on good form; although Monaghan covered up he was not exactly fighting bak from against the ropes. And on a more trivial note, seeing him after the fight, Monaghan's nose is right fucked up from too many shots. Ref did him a favour.

Re Ajose O, he has been trying to break through for a while but ppl were avoiding him. He did a good job on Pryce, who was well off balance and was way too easy to hit, but I still think Ajose is untidy and his jab is terrible. Still he has potential defo and is very strong.

glittermonkey · Post by **glittermonkey** » 04 Sep 2004, 10:05

Didn't see the woman close up, but i thought she had more than a passing resemblance to Donatella Versace.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 04 Sep 2004, 10:29

did u c that bit when those guys passed by and there seemed to be an argument going on between calzaghe and these bunch of lads

then security got in between em.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 04 Sep 2004, 11:41

Deserter,

He called out Hatton and Witter, so obviously he feels he can do Light Welter easy enough.

I to found watching the crowd interesting, what is Enzo Calzaghe's involved with any of the fighters (bar Rees). I realise he once trained Pryce, but he still seemed quite involved there and willing him on aswell (which was nice to see).

He also seemed quite interested in Maccrinelli's performance.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 04 Sep 2004, 13:01

Freiheit wrote:Kristiansen can be KOed quick, I would actually be surprised if the fight goes past 3 rounds.

Good call, another set up for a FW fighter - yawn....

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 05 Sep 2004, 08:58

hitman_hatton1 wrote:did u c that bit when those guys passed by and there seemed to be an argument going on between calzaghe and these bunch of lads then security got in between em.

Hitman, this happens at almost every fight I attend. Don't think it had anything to do with Joe.

What happens is that a pissed up lad, instead of going to his seat stands at the ringside barrier to watch for a couple of minutes. He's then joined by a mate, then another.

People behind can't see and have probably paid three times as much as the silly bastards who are inconsiderately standing up. Security move in to politely ask them to take their seats and because they are a) pissed b) dickheads c) with their mates and d) in full view of everyone, they get arsey and bother starts.

To be honest, security need to move in as soon as someone is stood there for more than ten seconds.

Honestly, it happens at every show I'm at.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 05 Sep 2004, 08:59

[quote="stujones"] He struggled to break down a survivor, imagine what he'll do against a survivor with a little skill (Johnny Nelson).
quote]

Stu, you are bang out of order mate. Nelson is much more than this.

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 05 Sep 2004, 09:00

stujones wrote:Deserter,

He called out Hatton and Witter, so obviously he feels he can do Light Welter easy enough.

Fair play Stu. Wasn't aware he'd called out Hatton and Witter.