Clinton Woods - Announcement soon.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 08 Sep 2004, 13:31

According to teletext, Clinton Woods' promoter will be making an announcement concerning his future plans. Teletext seem to be thinking that his next fight will be an IBF title eliminator, possibly against Richard Hall.

What's happend to Rico Hoye who beat Hall in an IBF title eliminator back in may. It was supposed to be Hoye vs Woods in a final eliminator but that never materialised. Does the winner of Jones vs Johnson have to fight Hoye within a certain amount of days? I can't see either fulfilling that obligation. If Johnson beats Jones he will have bigger fish to fry than Hoye, likewise Jones.

Could be interesting developments. I wonder if Woods will be getting a title shot sooner than we think - if he wins his eliminator perhaps a match with Hoye for the vacant belt.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 08 Sep 2004, 13:59

Cannot see Woods beating Hoye if they fight, Hoye is powerful and a big puncher and is on his way up after stopping Hall..Woods on the other hand is on his way down after two disappointing fights with Glen Johnson. I don't think Woods quite has the hunger to make it at world level anymore, if he ever did have it in the first place.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 08 Sep 2004, 14:14

Why isn't Hoye being mentioned by teletext. Does anyone know if there is a clause in the contract for Jones or Johnson to fight Hoye.

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 08 Sep 2004, 14:37

yeah, this situation is fucked up. I can only assume that Hoye will fight the winner of Jones-Johnson, and then Woods/Hall will eventually fight the winner of that.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 08 Sep 2004, 14:39

Nothing like planning ahead eh? If Woods jumps the queue back to a shot then it is criminal, Woods has had is chance god know how many times and has failed every attempt, it's Hoye's turn now.

theguru · Post by **theguru** » 08 Sep 2004, 18:34

Be honest who cares about Woods,he has had 3 chances and blown them and he is about xciting as watching ice melt.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 08 Sep 2004, 19:42

I think a re-match with RJJ is imminent. Why? RJJ knows he can win. Does he ever fight any other type of opponent? (RJJ that is)

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 08 Sep 2004, 19:56

I'm not sure why everyone is so down on Woods. After he fought Jones he got deserving credit (both here and stateside). Then he got his lucky decision against Johnson - still many considered him world class.

However, since his defeat people have been saying that he should pack it in and that he's not world class. In my opinion the second fight with Johnson was closer than the first, admittedly I think Woods should have won the rematch (cause Johnson didn't fight with the same intensity as before). However, I still think he did better than in the first match.

The closeness of the two fights with the current holder for me means he definately deserves to be in the reckoning for another shot. Hall pushed Dariuz close twice, thats why he's forever involved in the picture. Likewise, I would think Brodie would be back in the governing bodies' top ten should he return.

It only an eliminator fight we are talking about, if he fights and beats another fringe contendor then why shouldn't he be allowed to fight for the belt.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 09 Sep 2004, 04:24

I am sure Hoye is fighting Griffin in an eliminator this month. Woods' eliminator is for the #2 position I think.

J · Post by J » 09 Sep 2004, 05:14

freakinell, Im have to say what are your guy''s problems with woods?

He is decent honest hard working pro, admittedly he doesnt deserve another shot quite so quick but this happens all the time, often to the detriment of British fighters, (Robert Allen geting another shot at hopkins instead of eastman for example).

Let me tell you this much, Clinton did not blow anything against the likes of Jones and Glencoffe Johnson they were too good on the night.

no disgrace there you are talking aobut two of the top guys out there, (i woudnt be that surpirsed if Johnson out muscels Jones neither) give Clinton a break.

personally Id like to see him fight JC then the winner go on to challenge Traver/Jonhson Jones et al.

be decent test for JC at l heavy.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 09 Sep 2004, 05:47

Highlights the 'ease' of keeping a fighter active in MEANINGFUL contests.

Fight Academy are to be applauded for their management of his recent career.

This is not a fight for the mandatory as far as I can qualify. But for the number 2 position.

You wonder why Calzaghe didn't push to get a Woods fight....and opted to return to 'title' action for the WBO belt?

As a Light-Heavyweight contender, a Woods victory wopuld have legitimised his standing the in the division, given the British fans a menaingful contest between two fighters they know and generated a good purse for both fighters.

But Calzaghe lacks the humility to act like a contender and insists on this notion that he's a major box-office star. He isn't. He has the potential to be, but he needs to prove it in proper contests.

Currently, he roughly equates to Glasgow Celtic - they could go all season unbeaten in the league - but the best team in the world make them, that does not.

They can only prove their value by regularly playing and beating Champions League opposition.

Motherwell and Falkirk don't cut the mustard, and neither does Cabaret Saloon.

Clinton Woods isn't Real Madrid, but he's played in the Champions League three times in the past two years.

J · Post by J » 09 Sep 2004, 06:01

Nice post , very eloquent and nice analogies, totally concur.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 09 Sep 2004, 06:06

32 HOURS TO GO MATE!!!!

I cannot wait for tomorrow.

J · Post by J » 09 Sep 2004, 06:09

ME NIETHER! ive been excited all week.
Im even staying out the pub tomorrow lunch so i dont spoil it. 8)

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 09 Sep 2004, 06:15

I'll believe that when I see the state of you tomorrow evening!

J · Post by J » 09 Sep 2004, 06:19

haha you dont know me yet mate, I f I say Ill do something I do it.
maybe not always when I say Im gonna do it, but I always do it.
in this case time not an issue, first beer will be with Ian at the globe at 5.15.

by the way ill publicly state here Im off the piss for the whole of November.

time for a detox and to get fitter ahead of scubadiving at the barrier reef in Jan.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 09 Sep 2004, 06:21

I'll be wearing Trigger's pink hat tomorrow, the one he left on a bus, I found it.

J · Post by J » 09 Sep 2004, 06:25

DavidPayne wrote:I'll be wearing Trigger's pink hat tomorrow, the one he left on a bus, I found it.

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

i have no clue what that means.
are you seriously wearng a pink hat?

strange lad

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 09 Sep 2004, 06:28

Nope - I'm not the missing member of Erasure nor am I Dale Winton's personal stylist and thus the pink hat was nothing more than a harmless diversion. Your obviously not the Only Fools advocate I suspected you were.

I will however be wearing my off the shoulder donkey jacket and sling back wellington boots.

J · Post by J » 09 Sep 2004, 06:37

calling me plonker lol!

i sued to like it whne I was younger, cnayt say Im that avid bout watching repeats on tv.

anyway looking forward to tomorro gonna be a right good night I reckon!

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 09 Sep 2004, 07:46

dont wear a pink hat....we'll clash.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 09 Sep 2004, 08:38

So how long until Bill is out of hospital? Can he really make the 175 limit?

J · Post by J » 09 Sep 2004, 09:42

adam uyou coming then? arte you joining us at the globe, James who the eff is Bill?