[b]Fights that should have happened but didn't[/b]

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 10 Sep 2004, 09:35

MightyWarrior wrote:Marsh broke the story of his epilepsy and retirement himself, in The Sun newspaper. His promoter was allegedly furious that he hadn't been told first, and had to read it in the newspapers.
Cue a big falling out, and a courtcase with Marsh lost.

As for Who Shot Warren....I reckon it was Lee Harvey Oswald 8)

Didnt "The Flower Girl" have some involvement?

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 10 Sep 2004, 09:57

bollocks wrote:
Tootall wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote:Before he was forced to retire there was talk of Terry Marsh stepping up in weight and taking on Lloyd Honyghan, that could have been an interesting clash.
Was Marsh the firefighter who retired undefeated?
Honeyghan IMO would have mashed Marsh into a pulp

Marsh retired undefeated after it was discovered he was epileptic (not an ideal thing to have when you're a fighter, or a firefighter for that matter )

It was rumoured that he may have had some intimate knowledge in relation to the shooting and wounding of a certain promoter and that that promoter may have been the one to let it be known re the epilepsy. Hence the shooting (could be wrong about the last bit, one of the Brits here can perhaps confirm or refute?)

Marsh sold his story to the Sun. Warren didnt spill the beans. Marsh signed a contract to fight Hector Camacho (I think) then the next day spoke to the Sun in what i consider a two fingered salute to Warren

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 10 Sep 2004, 12:08

knockout artist wrote:
bollocks wrote:
Tootall wrote: Was Marsh the firefighter who retired undefeated?
Honeyghan IMO would have mashed Marsh into a pulp

Marsh retired undefeated after it was discovered he was epileptic (not an ideal thing to have when you're a fighter, or a firefighter for that matter )

It was rumoured that he may have had some intimate knowledge in relation to the shooting and wounding of a certain promoter and that that promoter may have been the one to let it be known re the epilepsy. Hence the shooting (could be wrong about the last bit, one of the Brits here can perhaps confirm or refute?)
Marsh sold his story to the Sun. Warren didnt spill the beans. Marsh signed a contract to fight Hector Camacho (I think) then the next day spoke to the Sun in what i consider a two fingered salute to Warren

I still remember the Sun TV advert with Marsh saying "I will tell you why I will never be able to box again, only in The Sun tomorrow!!"

It was such a shock as I like many others had being following Marshs career for a while and was looking forward to him fighting some of the top names, Hector Camacho being just one mentioned I also think the fighter Frankie Warren was mentioned as well (no relation)..

elmersalsa · Post by **elmersalsa** » 10 Sep 2004, 15:54

Another fight that we missed: Wilfredo Gomez vs Danny Lopez, let's say around 1978-79.

Another one would be Roberto Duran-Aaron Pryor or Duran-Antonio Cervantes.

elmersalsa · Post by **elmersalsa** » 10 Sep 2004, 15:58

Nobody has mention Roy Jones, Jr. vs Gerald McClellan or Joens, jr vs Nigel Benn. Those would have been DEFINING FIGHTS FOR ROY.

How about Felix "Tito" Trinidad vs Terry Norris in 1995 or 1996???

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 10 Sep 2004, 15:59

In the UK Tony Sibson Vs Herol Graham and Frank Bruno Vs Gary Mason.

kovit · Post by **kovit** » 10 Sep 2004, 22:18

Rocky Marciano vs. Nino Valdez, Nino Valdez vs. Floyd Patterson
Sugar Ray Robinson vs. Dick Tiger, Archie Moore vs. Doug Jones
Joses Napoles vs. Benny "Kid" Paret, Dick Tiger vs. Luis Rodriguez, Dick Tiger vs. Carlos Monzon, Carlos Monzon vs. Luis Rodriugez, Marvin Hagler vs. James Shuler, Marvin Hagler vs. Sumbu Kalumbay, Marvin Hagler vs. Mike McCallum, Bob Foster vs. Victor Galindez, Bob Foster vs. John Conteh, Bob Foster vs. Matthew Saad Muhammad, Joe Frazier vs. Jimmy Young, Larry Holmes vs. Jimmy Young, Ken Norton vs. Ron Lyle, George Foreman vs. Jerry Quarry, George Foreman vs. Oscar Bonavena, George Foreman vs. Earnie Shavers

Slapsie Maxie · Post by **Slapsie Maxie** » 11 Sep 2004, 02:04

Bob Foster Vs John Conteh

Good call

Conteh was one of my absolute favourites.

IronKidDynamite · Post by **IronKidDynamite** » 11 Sep 2004, 07:29

Hamed v Espinosa
Hamed v Morales
Hamed v Marquez

Ricardo Lopez v Carbajal and Gonzales

Lennox Lewis v Riddick Bowe

IronKidDynamite · Post by **IronKidDynamite** » 11 Sep 2004, 07:34

elmersalsa wrote:Nobody has mention Roy Jones, Jr. vs Gerald McClellan or Joens, jr vs Nigel Benn. Those would have been DEFINING FIGHTS FOR ROY.

How about Felix "Tito" Trinidad vs Terry Norris in 1995 or 1996???

No, the title says "should have" I think he implied that they should have happened if not for corruption and avoiding in boxing. McClellan had brain damage, he cant fight RJJ with brain damage. I think Benn was too past his prime for fighting Jones.

Trinidad v Norris should have happened

Its ridiculous in boxing that we dont see these fights, and often dont even expect them to happen. In mixed martial arts its far less common for this to happen, the one thing i like about Pride and UFC.

kovit · Post by **kovit** » 13 Sep 2004, 16:10

Rocky Marciano vs. Jimmy Bivins, Rocky Marciano vs. Joey Maxim, Rocky Marciano vs. Bob Satterfield, and Rocky Marciano vs. Elmer Ray

jezzamundo · Post by **jezzamundo** » 14 Sep 2004, 11:14

Lewis vs Tyson in '96 (prob a similar result to the '02 fight IMO, but closer and less one sided)
Lewis vs Bowe (would have to have been before '96 or Bowe would have been destroyed)

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 14 Sep 2004, 12:04

Tyson V Bowe.

Hope it doesn't happed now though.

The Scranton Assassin · Post by **The Scranton Assassin** » 17 Sep 2004, 13:13

Foreman - Shavers would have been cool to see. Foreman would def. won though.

Lewis vs. Holyfield early 90's

Patterson - Zora Foley

John L. Sullivan - Peter Jackson

James Jeffries - Tommy Burns

Harry Greb - Jack Dempsey

Patterson - Eddie Machen

Frazier - Shavers

Ray Robinson - Joey Maxim II (Sugar Ray would have won a rematch)

Jake LaMotta - Rocky Graziano << This just would have been amazing to see

Larry Holmes - Me (obvious reasons)

The Scranton Assassin · Post by **The Scranton Assassin** » 17 Sep 2004, 13:16

kovit , I thought Marciano fought Jimmy Bivins. Am I horribly mistaken?

The Scranton Assassin · Post by **The Scranton Assassin** » 17 Sep 2004, 13:18

Oh yea, I forgot Roy Jones - Darias Michlezewski or whatever

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 17 Sep 2004, 16:42

The Scranton Assassin wrote:kovit , I thought Marciano fought Jimmy Bivins. Am I horribly mistaken?

The Rock never fought Jimmy Bivins.