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Well, my enjoyment of the even was ruined by one man, who after the Small-Hall fight felt it necessary to punch a guy in the crowd in the face- who had done nothing other than cheer for Small. When the guy's (who was punched) girlfriend reacted, SHE was hit in the face by this man too.

Disgraceful. I assume this man was a "fan" of Hall, but what is shockin too is that there didn't seem to even be a responce- the injured couple were taken away, and didn't return to their seats, but at no point did anyone come back to ask for a description, name and address (in case witnesses were needed etc)

I'm not sure what happened to the puncher.

But again- this was a large, muscluar man who punched two much smaller people in the face, including a woman. Cowardly , and puts people- including myself- of going to boxing.


(Note- title editted to be less emotive.)
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Lets hope that the 'puncher' had his rent money on Hall...
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That's why I never go to big fights anymore, standing next to my hispanic girlfriend at Hatton v Maussa while a load of pricks behind us are shouting "Go on Ricky lad!!! Kill the 'spic' bastard!!!" wasn't exactly a pleasant experience.

A mate of mine got jumped by a load of asians at Khan v Gomez too.
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Post by Khaosai-Galaxy »

so, whats new?


Not having a go at anyone, but this sort of thing happens at every boxing show ive ever been to*


The MEN is no safer than an Anthony Farnell fight at the Wythenshawe arena, alas

















*especially when i open my mouth, and start complaining abut "the catering arrangements"
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Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:so, whats new?

no mate.

I've been to boxing , and yes, fights and trouble DOES flare up, but usually between rival fans, or two people who are provoking/goating each other.

I've never seen this level of violence before- unprovoked and direct attacks on women.
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The Khan/Hatton fights at MEN have always attracted knob heads which is why I dont bother. I prefer the small hall shows, generally more decent crowds and less trouble usually.
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Thats pretty bad, didn't security step in and atleast throw the w*nker out?

There has been trouble at boxing for years but I do think whereas with smaller shows its usually rival fans of boxers (or football) having a pop at each other, wheareas at the bigger shows you get a lot more indiscriminate idiotic behavior, including ore racist behaviour too (not just whites either, heard a lot of stories of asians at Khan fights acting like pr*cks). Obviously its just a minority of idiots from all races etc. Its also usually not true boxing fans but louts on a night out.
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TheCobra wrote:The Khan/Hatton fights at MEN have always attracted knob heads which is why I dont bother. I prefer the small hall shows, generally more decent crowds and less trouble usually.
I agree small hall shows are where its at, proper fans, and usually (unless two boxers happen to have a rowdy support in attendance) trouble free
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Yep I tend to think proper boxing fans are respectful of the fighters themselves and of the fight game and wouldn't be the sort to walk round indiscriminately punching people. It's the everyday knob heads on their once every 6-12 months trip to the boxing who spoil the party.
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saturday_kid wrote:Thats pretty bad, didn't security step in and atleast throw the w*nker out?
Not sure, the reaction was slow, I think he just walked off.

But the point is that this was a direct assault. If this had happened at a bus stop, or a restaurant etc then police would have been involved (at the least) and presumably charges would have been filled.
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whicker wrote:
saturday_kid wrote:Thats pretty bad, didn't security step in and atleast throw the w*nker out?
Not sure, the reaction was slow, I think he just walked off.

But the point is that this was a direct assault. If this had happened at a bus stop, or a restaurant etc then police would have been involved (at the least) and presumably charges would have been filled.
i been to a few MEN show in the past and always found the security have kept things pretty tight! but iv heard about a couple of bad things happen at the millenium in the past, i think this is a common thing a big fight venues!
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the security were a complete joke.i normally have had a few drinks when i go to a show and dont take any notice of all the nobheads,but last night i drove there with my 12 year old son and it was certainly an eye opener.there were more fights outside the ring than in it!its actually quite dangerous when the cheaper seats kick off and maybe two "stewards" run along,five minutes later and ask them to calm down.the only security who look capable of doing their job are based in inner ringside where there is virtually no risk of a fight breaking out.the general opinion of people sat around me was it was all very normal for the M.E.N
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whicker wrote:Well, my enjoyment of the even was ruined by one man, who after the Small-Hall fight felt it necessary to punch a guy in the crowd in the face- who had done nothing other than cheer for Small. When the guy's (who was punched) girlfriend reacted, SHE was hit in the face by this man too.

Disgraceful. I assume this man was a "fan" of Hall, but what is shockin too is that there didn't seem to even be a responce- the injured couple were taken away, and didn't return to their seats, but at no point did anyone come back to ask for a description, name and address (in case witnesses were needed etc)

I'm not sure what happened to the puncher.

But again- this was a large, muscluar man who punched two much smaller people in the face, including a woman. Cowardly , and puts people- including myself- of going to boxing.I won't be going again because of all the idiots seated around me shouting vile comments,i felt very threatened last night by the atmosphere in there and have been to many fights,but that is the last one in the MEN for me and my lad.


(Note- title editted to be less emotive.)
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It was the same story at the Khan v Barrera fight. Its undoubtably the uneducated pissheads who dont and never will understand the concept of boxing and just want to have an all dayer, get smashed, and turn up for the main fight whilst behaving like absolute pr*cks.
The small hall shows are 1000 times more enjoyable in my opinion. The fans are there to watch the sport rather than the spectacle and know what they are watching. Unfortunately boxing by its nature will always attract the nobheads.
F wank should perhaps spend a little more ££££££ and invest extra in the security/policing of the event, at least in the short term to send the message out there with a zero tolerance policy. Soon weed out those who cant enjoy a drink without punching the nearest stranger - it cant be that hard to utilise the CCTV of the crowd more effectively and have more police to support the security staff? There are definately room for improvements.
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Where were you sat Whicker? My wife and kids were sat in 110 and they were telling me about a couple of Small fans getting grief. The Police where in that section and locked somebody up at some point. My fight didn't go well, he was a good kid. Lost on points no injuries though and ready to go at the drop of a hat again. Was a bit annoyed that we didn't get on till after Khan when they had time to fit us in after the olympians. They told us to get gloved and if there where 3 stoppages than we were going on. Then even though there was time they didn't put us on :witzend:
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i heard the womans scream from accross the arena, securtiy didnt do nothing for a god while, quite a bit of trouble there last night.
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demolitiondaley wrote:Where were you sat Whicker? My wife and kids were sat in 110 and they were telling me about a couple of Small fans getting grief. The Police where in that section and locked somebody up at some point. My fight didn't go well, he was a good kid. Lost on points no injuries though and ready to go at the drop of a hat again. Was a bit annoyed that we didn't get on till after Khan when they had time to fit us in after the olympians. They told us to get gloved and if there where 3 stoppages than we were going on. Then even though there was time they didn't put us on :witzend:
yer trouble was brewing for quite a while over there, ended up missing bits of the fight as we were to busy watching what was going on
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neil hibbert wrote:
demolitiondaley wrote:Where were you sat Whicker? My wife and kids were sat in 110 and they were telling me about a couple of Small fans getting grief. The Police where in that section and locked somebody up at some point. My fight didn't go well, he was a good kid. Lost on points no injuries though and ready to go at the drop of a hat again. Was a bit annoyed that we didn't get on till after Khan when they had time to fit us in after the olympians. They told us to get gloved and if there where 3 stoppages than we were going on. Then even though there was time they didn't put us on :witzend:
yer trouble was brewing for quite a while over there, ended up missing bits of the fight as we were to busy watching what was going on
Yeah it doesn't help a fighter either when you know your family are sat next to a bunch of hooligans, I could see people ballooning about near my lot while I was gloved up during the Khan fight. I was stood near the door where all the fighters were coming out from. Felt like running up and telling them all to behave :lol: . The security should have been up there telling people to sit down and stop swearing.
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Im afraid the days of good sportsmanship are very long gone,supporters of their man or team cannot seem to take it if they are on a loser :shame: :shame:
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demolitiondaley wrote:
neil hibbert wrote:
demolitiondaley wrote:Where were you sat Whicker? My wife and kids were sat in 110 and they were telling me about a couple of Small fans getting grief. The Police where in that section and locked somebody up at some point. My fight didn't go well, he was a good kid. Lost on points no injuries though and ready to go at the drop of a hat again. Was a bit annoyed that we didn't get on till after Khan when they had time to fit us in after the olympians. They told us to get gloved and if there where 3 stoppages than we were going on. Then even though there was time they didn't put us on :witzend:
yer trouble was brewing for quite a while over there, ended up missing bits of the fight as we were to busy watching what was going on
Yeah it doesn't help a fighter either when you know your family are sat next to a bunch of hooligans, I could see people ballooning about near my lot while I was gloved up during the Khan fight. I was stood near the door where all the fighters were coming out from. Felt like running up and telling them all to behave :lol: . The security should have been up there telling people to sit down and stop swearing.
to be honest securtiy were more interested in getting peoples feet off the seats lol, was a fair few people that had 2 much of the white stuff up their nose and 1 or 2 that were just openly snorting at there seats lol, was a good atmosphere tho
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I'm sorry i may be missing something here but can you explain why you think snorting in the arena is something to laugh at
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bigjack wrote:I'm sorry i may be missing something here but can you explain why you think snorting in the arena is something to laugh at
because if you seen the lads that were doing it, it was actually funny to watch, but on a serious note they werent exactly trying to hide what they were doing and no1 seemed to care even tho there were kids around and all that
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bigjack wrote:I'm sorry i may be missing something here but can you explain why you think snorting in the arena is something to laugh at

Because taking drugs is fun?

Get off ya high horse, some people on this forum would twist on 21 :roll:
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neil hibbert wrote:
bigjack wrote:I'm sorry i may be missing something here but can you explain why you think snorting in the arena is something to laugh at
because if you seen the lads that were doing it, it was actually funny to watch, but on a serious note they werent exactly trying to hide what they were doing and no1 seemed to care even tho there were kids around and all that
Well because of the idiots that were sat all around me,shouting vile comments and fighting me and my lad won't be going again,i felt very threatened in there and the steward in front of me sod all about any of it.Khan fights seem to attract alot of non boxing fans as you can tell by the things they shout,anyway that's it for me.
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Hagler2002 wrote:
bigjack wrote:I'm sorry i may be missing something here but can you explain why you think snorting in the arena is something to laugh at

Because taking drugs is fun?

Get off ya high horse, some people on this forum would twist on 21 :roll:
haha true, you gotta laugh when sum twisted 18 year olds tryin to take a line and ends up all over his face lol
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