Crowd violence behaviour at the MEN

[bigjack]

I'm sorry i may be missing something here but can you explain why you think snorting in the arena is something to laugh at

Because taking drugs is fun?

Get off ya high horse, some people on this forum would twist on 21

yeh maybe but not in a boxing arena,grow up.

[Hagler2002]

I'm sorry i may be missing something here but can you explain why you think snorting in the arena is something to laugh at

Because taking drugs is fun?

Get off ya high horse, some people on this forum would twist on 21

yeh maybe but not in a boxing arena,grow up.

"Grow up"

what the fornicate you going on about?

[whicker]

Where were you sat Whicker? My wife and kids were sat in 110 and they were telling me about a couple of Small fans getting grief.

Block 103, row P, in the middle- the assault was one row in front.

This is still on my mind now- a big, muscular man hitting a woman in the face- I've never seen anything like that before. The people who were sat near me left the show before the man event because of this incident- and they were not just casual fans, either- chatting to them they told me they had been to lots of shows.

[damianhucker1]

theres no need for their to be violence any where other than the ring , on my semi pro shows the worst ive had is a drunk guy get in the ring and call out one of the ring master crew , needless to say he was swiftly ejected , only to be found again later peeing on the floor in the ladies , but thats literally the worst ive had , not a single punch thrown outside the ring that ive known of and also i go to the carl froch fights every time and ive never seen trouble there or anywhere else locally, i dont drive so dont really travel further a field though , but doing my test next month and will be every where then.

[Kilburn]

The trouble is, too many "fans" go to watch 1 particular fighter in the hope that he will win, and they will in turn feel like "winners". They don't have a clue what is happening and why it is happening.

They couldn't give a shit about the other fights on the bill and are ultimately not satisfied by them.

No respect, no understanding.

[paddyavh]

I'm sick of hearing Gavin fans singing Blues songs everytime he fights, why dont you sing songs of support for Gavin, instead of shouting 'Zulu' or 'Shit on the Villa'

[lowersmiths]

unfortunately it's a british thing, merely an extension of what these drunken idiots do in the city centre every saturday night.

[Punchy Joe]

I saw whole thing. Security didn't do a thing, just wandered up there, stood there for minute, and wandered off. The yob wasn't thrown out, or even given a stiff talking to. Effing pathetic.

They were probably shitt scared of him..........

[15829]

where i was sat a few people got arrested asians and what looked to be gypsys they were arguing all night one asian got kicked out and as soon as the khan fight ended it kicked off the asians jumped two from behind everyone ran off meaning the police couldnt get there

[demolitiondaley]

Where were you sat Whicker? My wife and kids were sat in 110 and they were telling me about a couple of Small fans getting grief.

Block 103, row P, in the middle- the assault was one row in front.

This is still on my mind now- a big, muscular man hitting a woman in the face- I've never seen anything like that before. The people who were sat near me left the show before the man event because of this incident- and they were not just casual fans, either- chatting to them they told me they had been to lots of shows.

Sickening I bet that was mate, scum just pure scum. Just a big bully, sounds like security had no grip on it whatsoever. Should have been old bill in there stood right at the back at the top of the stairs out of view linked up with the security and just appearing in the trouble hotspots when needed. Taking out the ringleaders when necessary like the bully boy, what a effin wanker.

[Spiker]

Well, my enjoyment of the even was ruined by one man, who after the Small-Hall fight felt it necessary to punch a guy in the crowd in the face- who had done nothing other than cheer for Small. When the guy's (who was punched) girlfriend reacted, SHE was hit in the face by this man too.

Disgraceful. I assume this man was a "fan" of Hall, but what is shockin too is that there didn't seem to even be a responce- the injured couple were taken away, and didn't return to their seats, but at no point did anyone come back to ask for a description, name and address (in case witnesses were needed etc)

I'm not sure what happened to the puncher.

But again- this was a large, muscluar man who punched two much smaller people in the face, including a woman. Cowardly , and puts people- including myself- of going to boxing.


(Note- title editted to be less emotive.)

This makes me feel sick.
Can you imagine if this was your girlfriend or daughter getting walloped by this idiot!!!
Is it possible the arena has it on record of who this guy could be??

Ive always wanted to take my girlfriend to the boxing.. Not any more :(

[Smigga]

There's far too many idiots ruining good fight nights nowadays. It's not nice to admit it but racism is rife in boxing now. The idiots who would want to see Khan flattened 'cos he's Pakistani is outrageous. The lad is proud to be British and rate him or not we should be proud of him.

You'll always get the tits at boxing shows who don't know their arse from their elbow but that's been going on since the start. And in fairness Frank pays the security for the ring, ringwalk and behind the scenes, not the "stewards" in the yellow jackets. They're M.E.N.

I left early last night as my son wasn't well, but all in all I think that was a great nights boxing for Joe pulic

[harrygreb]

i hope i'm not stirring it too much but small london venues have a good record for idiotic behaviour. the only bad stuff i have seen was some years ago at wembley during a michael ayres fight. michael, as we know, is from the north west of england!

[TerribleTerry]

i hope i'm not stirring it too much but small london venues have a good record for idiotic behaviour. the only bad stuff i have seen was some years ago at wembley during a michael ayres fight. michael, as we know, is from the north west of england!

Eh? Shaka Ayers is from Tooting or somewhere like that isnt he? Certainly not North West anyway..

[Kilburn]

i hope i'm not stirring it too much but small london venues have a good record for idiotic behaviour. the only bad stuff i have seen was some years ago at wembley during a michael ayres fight. michael, as we know, is from the north west of england!

Eh? Shaka Ayers is from Tooting or somewhere like that isnt he? Certainly not North West anyway..

Could have meant Michael Smyth. There was a lot of trouble during his second fight with McCreesh.

But then Smyth was Welsh and the fight wasn't at Wembley..

[lowersmiths]

maybe the ayers rigby rematch?
rigby was from near mancs

[TerribleTerry]

Dont think you can blame any one area or size of show. Fact is boxing shows attract arseholes who get pissed and coked up and think they are Johnny Concrete, esp when their mate is fighting on the show. Its just a sad reality of live boxing. That said, incidents like the one that started this thread should see prosecutions although we all know it wont...

[black panther]

Very shocked to hear about a man assaulting women...I've been to a few shows and fights do occur but this blatant assault esp on a women disgusts me. Can't believe no-one did anything either. Not disrespecting the posters who saw it happen by the way, but surely some bystanders next to the assaulted persons would have at least told the guy to stop hitting a women. I suppose I can understand people would have been intimidated if he was a big fella and if you are with family/loved ones you priority is to protect them.

But I'd like to think I would have said something, but again easier said than done and perhaps I may have reconsidered if I saw the size of him - I'm only a little fella!

It doesn't surprise me that it kicked off though, I'm from up north and racism is rife, so much so you just get used it. And as a result you get large areas that are populated by just asians as they feel safer that way. But then they become bullies as well as they are so many of them hanging about together - they form sort of gangs. Ah you could write a book on it!

But I've talked to people who have gone to Hatton fights(casual fans) who had a great time - at the same place - the MEN. What's the difference? Or is it just as bad?

[oliverfennell]

WHAT IS IT WITH MANCHESTER FANS?

I've asked this before and just had the Mancunians of this board get defensive, but I insist it's an undeniable fact - at least in my experience, and others seem to have experienced similar - that Manchester is the worst place in the UK for violent/intimidating/racist fans.

Now I know the good people of this board, and any other knowledgeable fans from the city, are not of that number, but 90% o the times I've felt uncomfortable at a boxing event due to crowd beahviour has been in Manchester.

Why is that??

And Matthew Hall, while I don't wish to comment too much since I don't know the bloke, does have the reputation of a thug. Seems his fans follow suit. But then even Michael Brodie, one of the nicest guys in British boxing, attracted some vile people to his fights.

Now, I'm not having an untoward dig at the city or its people, I'm just saying what I see and wonder if anyone has any answers?

[TheCobra]

WHAT IS IT WITH MANCHESTER FANS?

I've asked this before and just had the Mancunians of this board get defensive, but I insist it's an undeniable fact - at least in my experience, and others seem to have experienced similar - that Manchester is the worst place in the UK for violent/intimidating/racist fans.

Now I know the good people of this board, and any other knowledgeable fans from the city, are not of that number, but 90% o the times I've felt uncomfortable at a boxing event due to crowd beahviour has been in Manchester.

Why is that??

And Matthew Hall, while I don't wish to comment too much since I don't know the bloke, does have the reputation of a thug. Seems his fans follow suit. But then even Michael Brodie, one of the nicest guys in British boxing, attracted some vile people to his fights.

Now, I'm not having an untoward dig at the city or its people, I'm just saying what I see and wonder if anyone has any answers?

Hall is one of the biggest scrotes in manchester, from the Langley estate, I know a few people who went school with him, supposed to be the sort who revels in his hardman boxer status and has a bunch of knobhead mates who follow him round. I can imagine at least some of the trouble was from his lot.

[jBacca]

WHAT IS IT WITH MANCHESTER FANS?

I've asked this before and just had the Mancunians of this board get defensive, but I insist it's an undeniable fact - at least in my experience, and others seem to have experienced similar - that Manchester is the worst place in the UK for violent/intimidating/racist fans.

Now I know the good people of this board, and any other knowledgeable fans from the city, are not of that number, but 90% o the times I've felt uncomfortable at a boxing event due to crowd beahviour has been in Manchester.

Why is that??

And Matthew Hall, while I don't wish to comment too much since I don't know the bloke, does have the reputation of a thug. Seems his fans follow suit. But then even Michael Brodie, one of the nicest guys in British boxing, attracted some vile people to his fights.

Now, I'm not having an untoward dig at the city or its people, I'm just saying what I see and wonder if anyone has any answers?

Fights in Manchester are normally big events at the MEN, meaning you're getting the best of a promoters stable regardless of whether the fighter is local or not, so in turn you're getting fans from across the country turning up.

It's a big event, people like to travel to it, support their boys and get wrecked, it's inevitable that there will be clashes. I wouldn't blame it on anything to do with Manchester.

[The Law]

I'm sick of hearing Gavin fans singing Blues songs everytime he fights, why dont you sing songs of support for Gavin, instead of shouting 'Zulu' or 'poop on the Villa'

'poop on the Villa' sounds even better than sh*t on the Villa!

I think the Blues songs are great but they definitely need to mix it up with some songs for Frankie as well.

[Abbo]

I won't attend certain shows for this very reason. What ever happened to self-respect?

Give me the York Hall any day of the week.

[Khaosai-Galaxy]

Many reasons, but one is that Greater Manchester has some very large, and mostly white, council estates and slum/shitty/underdeveloped area's

Langley, Wythenshawe, Salford, et al

This is where the fighters come from and their fans reflect this, ie poor, thick, violent racists.


Same reson South Wales is such a hotbed of boxing violence (in my experience)

[whiskey]

I think the lad who was beat up with his wife goes by the name MerseyClaret and he posts on livefight.

Regular guy who likes boxing.

What i heard is that he cheered when Small was victorious and this big youth smashed him, breaking his nose before letting one go at his mrs too.