ENZO RETIRES
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Such a shame, Decent honest fella. Glad to see he wants to stay in the sport and I believe he's also got a good education to fall back on should he need.
Always wanted Enzo to do well. Good luck to him, and the correct decision in my opinion.
Always wanted Enzo to do well. Good luck to him, and the correct decision in my opinion.
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Good luck to Enzo, but I really wish he wouldn't say things like this: ""Take nothing away from Lebedev, he was a strong fighter, but everyone who has seen me and knows me will recognise that two years ago this kid wouldn't have gone two rounds with me."
He says "take nothing away", yet that's exactly what he does.
He says "take nothing away", yet that's exactly what he does.
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Good.
The right decision as debated on the other thread.
The right decision as debated on the other thread.
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Sad but true, yes.Asterix wrote:Good luck to Enzo, but I really wish he wouldn't say things like this: ""Take nothing away from Lebedev, he was a strong fighter, but everyone who has seen me and knows me will recognise that two years ago this kid wouldn't have gone two rounds with me."
He says "take nothing away", yet that's exactly what he does.
It seems that Enzo himself is the only one left out there who still thinks that Enzo Maccarinelli was genuine world class.
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BIGMARK wrote: "Take nothing away from Lebedev, he was a strong fighter, but everyone who has seen me and knows me will recognise that two years ago this kid wouldn't have gone two rounds with me.
Still a class A tit.
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Enzo is not a tit, he's a nice guy who limitations have been exposed at top level. I don't like the fact that folk want to slate him because he was happy to take on top fighters and has come up short. But then folk have done it to Hatton too, British people don't like people who have had success.
So Macca won't have a great legacy but he still has a lot to be proud of and has earned a good living doing so. I'm sure he will continue to be regularly seen helping out the kids from his fathers gym and giving plenty back to the sport
Enjoy your retirement mate, you deserve it.
So Macca won't have a great legacy but he still has a lot to be proud of and has earned a good living doing so. I'm sure he will continue to be regularly seen helping out the kids from his fathers gym and giving plenty back to the sport
Enjoy your retirement mate, you deserve it.
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My sentiments exactly. He was found wanting at a certain level but he tried his best and was a decent bloke outside the ring. What more could you want. yes, he gave it the proverbial "big I am" when he was champ, but don't they all. No reason to gloat now. It's good that he recognises and accepts the time has come. He's a good studio guest, too, so with that and training, he should be OK. Good luck.
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forcefraser
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Good luck to him. Seems like a decent bloke to me.
His comment about Lebedev not lasting 2 rounds with him two years ago was below the belt though and totally inaccurate. Beating guys like Bobby Gunn and the Algerian fella must cloud the judgement.
Lebedev would have taken him apart yesterday, 1,2,3,4 or 5 years ago. Sad but true.
His comment about Lebedev not lasting 2 rounds with him two years ago was below the belt though and totally inaccurate. Beating guys like Bobby Gunn and the Algerian fella must cloud the judgement.
Lebedev would have taken him apart yesterday, 1,2,3,4 or 5 years ago. Sad but true.
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enzo is a class fella an it is such a shame to call it a day but i think hes rite in doing so hes made a good life out of boxing now he can sit back with his family an enjoy wot he has earned well done son i hope we see him training people i agree he has a wealth of knowledge that he can pass on to up and coming fighters 
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Top man is Enzo..I just hope he made enough dough and invested it properly..Good luck to him, Terrible shame for it to end like this though.. :(
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good, dont want to see him gte hurt and if he had of carried on i think he could of good luck to him
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still a shame he cant admit his own limitations and the fact he was beaten well and fairly in there..
all of this 'it was not me in there' crap is wearing a bit thin.
all of this 'it was not me in there' crap is wearing a bit thin.
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Enzo-"that kid wouldnt have lasted 2 rounds with me before"
Its official
Swansea Citys first ever World Boxing Champion
Enzo "Big Macc" Maccarenelli
retires from boxing.
a 10 year career comes to a close.
Bowing out of the sport at just 28 years old.
Enzo seemed to say that the decsion was based on nothing being there anymore
Some people have said that Enzo got found out because the oppostion was better
However Enzo has said he seems to feel the likes of Denis Lebdev would not have lasted more than 2 rounds with him at his peak.
Leddev certainly didnt look nothing special.
Would Enzo would have blown him away in his prime............................???
Swansea Citys first ever World Boxing Champion
Enzo "Big Macc" Maccarenelli
retires from boxing.
a 10 year career comes to a close.
Bowing out of the sport at just 28 years old.
Enzo seemed to say that the decsion was based on nothing being there anymore
Some people have said that Enzo got found out because the oppostion was better
However Enzo has said he seems to feel the likes of Denis Lebdev would not have lasted more than 2 rounds with him at his peak.
Leddev certainly didnt look nothing special.
Would Enzo would have blown him away in his prime............................???
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Hagler2002
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Re: Enzo-"that kid wouldnt have lasted 2 rounds with me before"
Mark Hobson nearly beat him when he was in his so called prime so I would say probably not.
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If it gives him a bit of comfort, let him think it.
Personally i think he's one of the good guys in boxing, but he believed he was better than he was. He's had some duff opponents like Bobby Gunn etc who have rolled over and it's perhaps gave him more confidence than he had in actual ability.
The right move i say.
Personally i think he's one of the good guys in boxing, but he believed he was better than he was. He's had some duff opponents like Bobby Gunn etc who have rolled over and it's perhaps gave him more confidence than he had in actual ability.
The right move i say.
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Re: Enzo-"that kid wouldnt have lasted 2 rounds with me before"
Bobby Gunn rolls over for no-man. Not even Chuck Norris.G0mez wrote:If it gives him a bit of comfort, let him think it.
Personally i think he's one of the good guys in boxing, but he believed he was better than he was. He's had some duff opponents like Bobby Gunn etc who have rolled over and it's perhaps gave him more confidence than he had in actual ability.
The right move i say.
He may be limited, but I haven't seen him laid out or sit down for a count.
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will you be retiring as well flint?
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Hear Hear.
He can't give anybody who whups him any credit.
Swaby - he lost cos he'd gone out on the piss the night before
Haye - he 'made a mistake'
Olafabi - he had no sparring
Lebdevev (sp?) - he didn't feel right
It's a bullies mentality.
Plus I'd bet my left ventricle that he'll be fighting again in ayear.
He can't give anybody who whups him any credit.
Swaby - he lost cos he'd gone out on the piss the night before
Haye - he 'made a mistake'
Olafabi - he had no sparring
Lebdevev (sp?) - he didn't feel right
It's a bullies mentality.
Plus I'd bet my left ventricle that he'll be fighting again in ayear.
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I don't like Enzo. Is completely deluded, and chats utter bollocks every time he gets the opportunity to talk
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don't we write enzo's obituary every four or five months?
it must be like greek tragedy, i.e. someone else's misery making us feel better
i'm just glad he didn't beat haye. can you imagine it - "adamek is a BUM, he didn't beat THE MAN at THE WEIGHT, he has to BEAT ENZO or he's JUST ANOTHER belt holder"
i wonder what would have happened if banks had come over here. would banks have punched him out, or would enzo have got a new break in his manufatured (if once prmising) career?
it must be like greek tragedy, i.e. someone else's misery making us feel better
i'm just glad he didn't beat haye. can you imagine it - "adamek is a BUM, he didn't beat THE MAN at THE WEIGHT, he has to BEAT ENZO or he's JUST ANOTHER belt holder"
i wonder what would have happened if banks had come over here. would banks have punched him out, or would enzo have got a new break in his manufatured (if once prmising) career?
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Lebedev was much smaller, and was taking an age to throw some of those shots at the end, which were never the less connecting with Enzo's face!
Who knows if the Enzo of two years ago was much better.
The guy he beat 18 months ago (but an odd stoppage), Mohamed Azzaoui, has since lost 4 out of 5 (to modest opposition) , 2 by early KO.
Braithwaite ( 2 years ago) was capable, but not exactly a workld beater, as his recent wide loss to Cunningham shows.
Then before that Bobby Water Pistol. and Marcelo Fabian Dominguez, who isn't exactly world level.
Other than Mark Hobson and Delaney, both decent British level boxers, he hasn't beaten anyone else of note.
Thats his record, more or less. No real evidence of form to suggest that he would have beaten Lebedev in 2 rounds 2 years ago.
Who knows if the Enzo of two years ago was much better.
The guy he beat 18 months ago (but an odd stoppage), Mohamed Azzaoui, has since lost 4 out of 5 (to modest opposition) , 2 by early KO.
Braithwaite ( 2 years ago) was capable, but not exactly a workld beater, as his recent wide loss to Cunningham shows.
Then before that Bobby Water Pistol. and Marcelo Fabian Dominguez, who isn't exactly world level.
Other than Mark Hobson and Delaney, both decent British level boxers, he hasn't beaten anyone else of note.
Thats his record, more or less. No real evidence of form to suggest that he would have beaten Lebedev in 2 rounds 2 years ago.
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I dont like Enzo because if Flint, when are you going to follow suit and retire as well Flint?
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REAL_DEAL wrote:will you be retiring as well flint?
Sh!t beat me too it. He's been barred from ESB and is now dragging this site down, he is the worst poster ever.
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any boxer just about will make excuses. because if you get beaten in a fight, you have to make changes, do things differently, recognise the areas that you have to improve on and the wrinkles that need ironing out. fans don't much like hearing it - mainly because we love a winner and want to give them credit - but sometimes that can be constructive for the fighter, sometimes it can just be an excuse.
but i never really much cared for the things macca says about opponents. doesn't seem to give 'em much credit for beating him.
but i never really much cared for the things macca says about opponents. doesn't seem to give 'em much credit for beating him.
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rhino222 wrote:still a shame he cant admit his own limitations and the fact he was beaten well and fairly in there..
all of this 'it was not me in there' crap is wearing a bit thin.
The problem with comments like those Rhino, is it shows you know nothing about boxers. It takes a lot of self-belief to get in the ring in the first place. Enzo had some really good wins but the Haye loss seemed to destory him mentally. Happens to fighters.
Are you seriously saying that he was at his best v Swaby and Afolabi? If you believe that, you know nothing about boxing.
There clearly were things wrong before Afolabi, and it is obvious he is not the fighter he was two years ago. Why is that crap? Boxers hit their peak at different times of life and, sadly, Enzo's time has gone.
But he is a lovely, genuine bloke and I had a lot of good night watching him - the night he flattened Scott, the night he beat Braithwaite and his win over Dominguez included.
All that nasty sniping, all the "wish he'd admit he was crap" merely exposes the qualities of the people who write it rather than the people they write it about.