Cali Martinez . . .
Frank, this is another guy I heard won a National GG's title for L.A. many years back?
He was trained by Johnny Forbes, out of that great stable with Teran, Cadilli, Jordon, Northrup, Chavez, etc.
I know he's a friend of Don Fraser.
Didn't equal the accomplishment professionally.
I don't believe he ever fought as a pro?
-Rick Farris
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The Coal Miner's Daughter - 1979
"Coal mine, moonshine, or movin' on down the line." - A man's future in Butcher Hollow.
This was the life story of country music legend, Loretta Lynn.
Sissy Spacek would win the "Best Actress" Oscar for portrying the singer in this film.
We'd start filming near Apalachia, shooting exteriors/interiors in Kentucky.
We'd move on to Nashville, where we shot in the Grand Ole Opre, and all over town.
We'd finish in Hurricane Mills, West Virginia. This is where Loretta Lynn's estate was located.
She told the crew, "When I bought this home, there was no indoor plumbing."
She pointed across the property, "The outhouse sat right there", she said with a southern twang.
We would learn to respect the talent of Sissy Spacek. And also Beverly DeAngelo, who played Patsy Kline.
Both actresses did an amazing job of singing all of the music themselves. Sissy became Loretta Lynn, and the singer and she bonded.
It was fun shooting in Nashville, all of the vet country singers were on hand, Ernest Tubb, Minnie Pearl, etc.
Once the stage was lit, the concert lighting balanced, the lighting crew had it easy for more than two weeks.
In the morning, we'd turn on the generators, strike the pre-set lights and enjoy the music.
The people in every city we filmed in were so warm and friendly.
The locals would come onto the set and bring food, invite us to their homes to eat, just very warm, kind people.
The South has always been a great place to film on location, at least that's been my experience.
Tommy Lee Jones was a crazy bastid!
He'd go out at night, get drunk, end up in jail in another county, and then be escorted to work by the cops who arrested him for fighting the night before.
They'd let him sleep it off, and deliver him on set right on time.
Jones would be a mess when he'd stumble into the make-up trailer. An hour later he'd be on set, fresh and ready to go.
Jones played Doolittle Lynn, "Doo", Loretta's husband.
In addition to Spacek's Oscar-winning performance, the film was nominated for a "Best Picture" award, as well.
-Rick Farris
"Coal mine, moonshine, or movin' on down the line." - A man's future in Butcher Hollow.
This was the life story of country music legend, Loretta Lynn.
Sissy Spacek would win the "Best Actress" Oscar for portrying the singer in this film.
We'd start filming near Apalachia, shooting exteriors/interiors in Kentucky.
We'd move on to Nashville, where we shot in the Grand Ole Opre, and all over town.
We'd finish in Hurricane Mills, West Virginia. This is where Loretta Lynn's estate was located.
She told the crew, "When I bought this home, there was no indoor plumbing."
She pointed across the property, "The outhouse sat right there", she said with a southern twang.
We would learn to respect the talent of Sissy Spacek. And also Beverly DeAngelo, who played Patsy Kline.
Both actresses did an amazing job of singing all of the music themselves. Sissy became Loretta Lynn, and the singer and she bonded.
It was fun shooting in Nashville, all of the vet country singers were on hand, Ernest Tubb, Minnie Pearl, etc.
Once the stage was lit, the concert lighting balanced, the lighting crew had it easy for more than two weeks.
In the morning, we'd turn on the generators, strike the pre-set lights and enjoy the music.
The people in every city we filmed in were so warm and friendly.
The locals would come onto the set and bring food, invite us to their homes to eat, just very warm, kind people.
The South has always been a great place to film on location, at least that's been my experience.
Tommy Lee Jones was a crazy bastid!
He'd go out at night, get drunk, end up in jail in another county, and then be escorted to work by the cops who arrested him for fighting the night before.
They'd let him sleep it off, and deliver him on set right on time.
Jones would be a mess when he'd stumble into the make-up trailer. An hour later he'd be on set, fresh and ready to go.
Jones played Doolittle Lynn, "Doo", Loretta's husband.
In addition to Spacek's Oscar-winning performance, the film was nominated for a "Best Picture" award, as well.
-Rick Farris
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Rick,Rick Farris wrote:Cali Martinez . . .
Frank, this is another guy I heard won a National GG's title for L.A. many years back?
He was trained by Johnny Forbes, out of that great stable with Teran, Cadilli, Jordon, Northrup, Chavez, etc.
I know he's a friend of Don Fraser.
Didn't equal the accomplishment professionally.
I don't believe he ever fought as a pro?
-Rick Farris
Cali Martinez won the National GG's in 1952, never turn pro, was a Johnny Forbes's fighter but at times trained by Harry Kabakoff and also by Frankie Saracho. Did you ever meet Frankie Saracho?, Saracho was at one time also Gil Cadilli's trainer, he was a well known and respected L.A. trainer in the late 1940's- early 1950's-early 1960's.
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Pacquiao set to fight Cotto
Arum says the bout of champions will be at a catch-weight of 145 pounds.
By Robert Morales, Staff Writer
Manny Pacquiao, the No.1 pound-for-pound boxer in the world, and welterweight champion Miguel Cotto have come to terms and will fight each other Nov. 14 at MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
The fight was announced as a done deal Monday by Bob Arum, who promotes both boxers. It will be available on HBO pay-per-view.
The fight will pit two of the most popular fighters in the world in the Philippines' Pacquiao and Puerto Rico's Cotto, a top-10 pound-for-pound fighter. That and their similar styles figure to make this a highly anticipated matchup, Arum said.
"This is going to be a fight," Arum said from his offices in Las Vegas. "This is two guys who will give no quarter and will be at each other from the opening bell. This is the type of fight that people, when they see it, are so thrilled because they've really seen action.
"It is not going to be any kind of fancy boxing exhibition. These guys fight one way."
Arum said Cotto, 28, agreed to terms last week and Pacquiao did so over the weekend. Arum said they will fight at a catch-weight of 145 pounds, two under the welterweight limit.
This should not be a problem for Cotto, who weighed 146 pounds for his successful title defense against Joshua Clottey last month in New York City.
Pacquiao and his team initially had asked for the fight to be made at 143. But that would have put Cotto (34-1, 27 KOs) in a situation he would have had to drain himself in order to make weight. Arum said he did not want any part of that.
"I wasn't going to do a fight just to make the fight, where one of the fighters had to jeopardize his health," Arum said.
Freddie Roach, Pacquiao's trainer, had no problem with 145.
"Cotto is a strong guy, so we obviously tried to get it as low as possible," Roach said. "At 145 or 143, I don't think it really matters. My job is getting him ready for that fight and that's what I'm going to do."
Pacquiao, 30, is 49-3-2 with 37 knockouts. He is coming off a second-round knockout of Ricky Hatton in a junior welterweight fight in May at MGM Grand.
Arum said the contracts should be signed this week. He would not divulge the split of the purse at this time.
"The fighters asked me not to at this particular point," Arum said. "But I'm sure that once the contracts are signed, at the press conference they will give me permission to reveal it because it will be a matter of public record anyway."
Pacquiao has won titles in six weight divisions from 112 to 140 pounds, cementing the Filipino national hero's status and the sport's pound-for-pound champion. Pacquiao pummeled Oscar De La Hoya into retirement last December in his first welterweight fight.
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The Associated Press contributed to this report
Arum says the bout of champions will be at a catch-weight of 145 pounds.
By Robert Morales, Staff Writer
Manny Pacquiao, the No.1 pound-for-pound boxer in the world, and welterweight champion Miguel Cotto have come to terms and will fight each other Nov. 14 at MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
The fight was announced as a done deal Monday by Bob Arum, who promotes both boxers. It will be available on HBO pay-per-view.
The fight will pit two of the most popular fighters in the world in the Philippines' Pacquiao and Puerto Rico's Cotto, a top-10 pound-for-pound fighter. That and their similar styles figure to make this a highly anticipated matchup, Arum said.
"This is going to be a fight," Arum said from his offices in Las Vegas. "This is two guys who will give no quarter and will be at each other from the opening bell. This is the type of fight that people, when they see it, are so thrilled because they've really seen action.
"It is not going to be any kind of fancy boxing exhibition. These guys fight one way."
Arum said Cotto, 28, agreed to terms last week and Pacquiao did so over the weekend. Arum said they will fight at a catch-weight of 145 pounds, two under the welterweight limit.
This should not be a problem for Cotto, who weighed 146 pounds for his successful title defense against Joshua Clottey last month in New York City.
Pacquiao and his team initially had asked for the fight to be made at 143. But that would have put Cotto (34-1, 27 KOs) in a situation he would have had to drain himself in order to make weight. Arum said he did not want any part of that.
"I wasn't going to do a fight just to make the fight, where one of the fighters had to jeopardize his health," Arum said.
Freddie Roach, Pacquiao's trainer, had no problem with 145.
"Cotto is a strong guy, so we obviously tried to get it as low as possible," Roach said. "At 145 or 143, I don't think it really matters. My job is getting him ready for that fight and that's what I'm going to do."
Pacquiao, 30, is 49-3-2 with 37 knockouts. He is coming off a second-round knockout of Ricky Hatton in a junior welterweight fight in May at MGM Grand.
Arum said the contracts should be signed this week. He would not divulge the split of the purse at this time.
"The fighters asked me not to at this particular point," Arum said. "But I'm sure that once the contracts are signed, at the press conference they will give me permission to reveal it because it will be a matter of public record anyway."
Pacquiao has won titles in six weight divisions from 112 to 140 pounds, cementing the Filipino national hero's status and the sport's pound-for-pound champion. Pacquiao pummeled Oscar De La Hoya into retirement last December in his first welterweight fight.
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The Associated Press contributed to this report
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Sitting from left: Demond Wilson and Redd Foxx. Standing in background is a young George Foreman.
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Anybody here see Redd Foxx's Vegas show?kikibalt wrote:
Sitting from left: Demond Wilson and Redd Foxx. Standing in background is a young George Foreman.
Saw him at the Hacienda Hotel in 1983.
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Happy Jesus
Jesus was most happy around kids. Here He is with children from all the races.
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Rog . . . That kid in the lower right corner is downright scary.dagosd2000 wrote:
Happy Jesus
Jesus was most happy around kids. Here He is with children from all the races.
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RickRick Farris wrote:Rog . . . That kid in the lower right corner is downright scary.dagosd2000 wrote:
Happy Jesus
Jesus was most happy around kids. Here He is with children from all the races.
She's just ecstatic that's all
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TIMOTHY BRADLEY: IT IS BUSINESS AS USUAL
By Edgar Gonzalez
It is not easy trying to stay cool this time of year when you reside in the desert community of North Palm Springs, Calif., where temperatures hover around or top 100 degrees nearly every day and night.
Factor in the heat former undisputed lightweight champion Nate “Galaxxy Warrior” Campbell is expected to bring on Saturday, Aug. 1, and one might expect unbeaten world junior welterweight champion Timothy Bradley to be a tad on edge these days.
But less than two weeks away from the biggest and perhaps toughest fight of his career, “Desert Storm’’ not only is coping with the elements in and out of the ring, but he is relishing the opportunity to prove once again he is the No. 1 140-pounder in the world.
“There is a lot of excitement as we get closer,’’ said Bradley, who will defend his World Boxing Organization title against the always-dangerous Campbell at The Show at Agua Caliente Casino • Resort • Spa in Rancho Mirage, Calif. The classy venue is located less than 10 miles from where Bradley grew up.
“I am very anxious to prove to myself and my fans that I am the best at 140. It does not make a difference that it is close to home, but it is actually an honor to be able to fight in a place where there will be fans that will rooting for me.’’
Headlining at home can be a distraction, but for the most part it has been business as usual for the 25-year-old Bradley (24-0, 11 KOs) as he prepares for the hard-hitting Campbell (33-5-1, 25 KOs) of Jacksonville, Fla.
“Training-wise, not much has changed,’’ Bradley said. “I still wake up and run eight miles in the morning, eat, and then rest. Gym workout starts at noon and we do three hours there. I spar every other day and work on my strength training for three days.
“Every Monday and Wednesday, I assist with a tackle football program for kids 7-14 (that he helped start) in Cathedral City. I work with them on conditioning.
“I still find time to relax by hanging out with my children at home. We watch movies, play basketball, board games and dance and tell jokes all day.’’
The event, which includes a 140-pound world title fight between ex-world titleholder Junior Witter (37-2-2, 22 KOs of England and Devon Alexander (18-0, 11 KOs), the most highly touted fighter to come out of St. Louis since four-time world champion Cory Spinks, for the World Boxing Council title – the belt Bradley voluntarily relinquished, is the biggest, most significant boxing card in the history of the Coachella Valley.
But there is no doubt that Bradley is the star of a show promoted by Gary Shaw Productions and Thompson Boxing Promotions in association with Don King Productions and Agua Caliente Casino • Resort • Spa.
One can’t travel too many miles without seeing one of the numerous billboards in the area promoting the event.
“Yes, absolutely, I have seen many of those billboards,’’ Bradley said. “I never thought my face would be on a giant billboard. I believe that all my prayers are being answered. I feel more and more blessed every day.’’
Bradley isn’t sure how the scheduled 12-rounder will play out with Campbell.
“It is hard to say. I can’t dissect him because I have not been in the ring with him,’’ Bradley said. “However, I think that my youth and speed will be huge advantages against him.
Like so many, Bradley was deeply saddened by the recent deaths of boxing greats, Alexis Arguello and Arturo Gatti.
“Arguello is a legend, and his death is a huge loss to the sport of boxing. He was an ambassador of good will, an amazing 3-time world champion and true gentleman inside and outside of the ring.” Bradley said.
On Gatti: “I had the pleasure of meeting him at my last fight in Montreal, Canada. He was there for my fight against Kendall Holt and came over to congratulate me after the fight. I was excited to meet one of the greatest warriors of the sport and of all time. We lost him too soon”.
“I wish his son and family continued strength as they go through the grieving process of having lost a big part of their life and we should all keep in our hearts all of the thrilling memories of him inside the ring.”
Tickets for the blockbuster event Saturday, Aug. 1 event are available for purchase online at www.HotWaterCasino.com/TheShow or by calling (800) 585-3737.
By Edgar Gonzalez
It is not easy trying to stay cool this time of year when you reside in the desert community of North Palm Springs, Calif., where temperatures hover around or top 100 degrees nearly every day and night.
Factor in the heat former undisputed lightweight champion Nate “Galaxxy Warrior” Campbell is expected to bring on Saturday, Aug. 1, and one might expect unbeaten world junior welterweight champion Timothy Bradley to be a tad on edge these days.
But less than two weeks away from the biggest and perhaps toughest fight of his career, “Desert Storm’’ not only is coping with the elements in and out of the ring, but he is relishing the opportunity to prove once again he is the No. 1 140-pounder in the world.
“There is a lot of excitement as we get closer,’’ said Bradley, who will defend his World Boxing Organization title against the always-dangerous Campbell at The Show at Agua Caliente Casino • Resort • Spa in Rancho Mirage, Calif. The classy venue is located less than 10 miles from where Bradley grew up.
“I am very anxious to prove to myself and my fans that I am the best at 140. It does not make a difference that it is close to home, but it is actually an honor to be able to fight in a place where there will be fans that will rooting for me.’’
Headlining at home can be a distraction, but for the most part it has been business as usual for the 25-year-old Bradley (24-0, 11 KOs) as he prepares for the hard-hitting Campbell (33-5-1, 25 KOs) of Jacksonville, Fla.
“Training-wise, not much has changed,’’ Bradley said. “I still wake up and run eight miles in the morning, eat, and then rest. Gym workout starts at noon and we do three hours there. I spar every other day and work on my strength training for three days.
“Every Monday and Wednesday, I assist with a tackle football program for kids 7-14 (that he helped start) in Cathedral City. I work with them on conditioning.
“I still find time to relax by hanging out with my children at home. We watch movies, play basketball, board games and dance and tell jokes all day.’’
The event, which includes a 140-pound world title fight between ex-world titleholder Junior Witter (37-2-2, 22 KOs of England and Devon Alexander (18-0, 11 KOs), the most highly touted fighter to come out of St. Louis since four-time world champion Cory Spinks, for the World Boxing Council title – the belt Bradley voluntarily relinquished, is the biggest, most significant boxing card in the history of the Coachella Valley.
But there is no doubt that Bradley is the star of a show promoted by Gary Shaw Productions and Thompson Boxing Promotions in association with Don King Productions and Agua Caliente Casino • Resort • Spa.
One can’t travel too many miles without seeing one of the numerous billboards in the area promoting the event.
“Yes, absolutely, I have seen many of those billboards,’’ Bradley said. “I never thought my face would be on a giant billboard. I believe that all my prayers are being answered. I feel more and more blessed every day.’’
Bradley isn’t sure how the scheduled 12-rounder will play out with Campbell.
“It is hard to say. I can’t dissect him because I have not been in the ring with him,’’ Bradley said. “However, I think that my youth and speed will be huge advantages against him.
Like so many, Bradley was deeply saddened by the recent deaths of boxing greats, Alexis Arguello and Arturo Gatti.
“Arguello is a legend, and his death is a huge loss to the sport of boxing. He was an ambassador of good will, an amazing 3-time world champion and true gentleman inside and outside of the ring.” Bradley said.
On Gatti: “I had the pleasure of meeting him at my last fight in Montreal, Canada. He was there for my fight against Kendall Holt and came over to congratulate me after the fight. I was excited to meet one of the greatest warriors of the sport and of all time. We lost him too soon”.
“I wish his son and family continued strength as they go through the grieving process of having lost a big part of their life and we should all keep in our hearts all of the thrilling memories of him inside the ring.”
Tickets for the blockbuster event Saturday, Aug. 1 event are available for purchase online at www.HotWaterCasino.com/TheShow or by calling (800) 585-3737.
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Just watch "Ring of Passion" on FMC, (1978), starring Bernie Casey as Joe Louis, got into late so I only seen about 20 minutes of it. Had never seen it before, in fact never heard of it... 
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Frank, that film was made a couple years after I started work in the film business.kikibalt wrote:Just watch "Ring of Passion" on FMC, (1978), starring Bernie Casey as Joe Louis, got into late so I only seen about 20 minutes of it. Had never seen it before, in fact never heard of it...
I remember when they made it, had a couple friends who worked on it.
I forget if it was any good?
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Alphonse Halimi memories?
This one is for Frank and Hap, because I'm sure one or both of you saw this bout
1959 at the L.A. Sports Arena, bantam champ Alphonse Halimi loses his title to Jose Beccera?
Before that, Halimi had successfully defended his title in L.A., at Wrigley Field were he beat Raton Macias.
My question is what you might remember about Halimi, style-wise? He fought a couple special bantams in Macias and Beccera.
Born the last of thirteen children, only seven who'd reach adulthood, he was nicknamed- "La Petite Terreur" (The Little Terror).
TIME wrote of him-
"He went to work with a street fighter's will, a grown-up guttersnipe from the back alley's of Algeria. He worked like a heavyweight, swung looping haymakers, carless of where they landed, confident that they hurt"
The WBHOF is inducting Alphonse Halimi into the "posthumous catagory"
(Isn't the designation "posthumous" ridiculous? That's gotta go, a Hall of Famer is a Hall of Famer, dead or alive)
Frank, just curious if you can remember what Halimi was like in the ring?
-Rick Farris
This one is for Frank and Hap, because I'm sure one or both of you saw this bout
1959 at the L.A. Sports Arena, bantam champ Alphonse Halimi loses his title to Jose Beccera?
Before that, Halimi had successfully defended his title in L.A., at Wrigley Field were he beat Raton Macias.
My question is what you might remember about Halimi, style-wise? He fought a couple special bantams in Macias and Beccera.
Born the last of thirteen children, only seven who'd reach adulthood, he was nicknamed- "La Petite Terreur" (The Little Terror).
TIME wrote of him-
"He went to work with a street fighter's will, a grown-up guttersnipe from the back alley's of Algeria. He worked like a heavyweight, swung looping haymakers, carless of where they landed, confident that they hurt"
The WBHOF is inducting Alphonse Halimi into the "posthumous catagory"
(Isn't the designation "posthumous" ridiculous? That's gotta go, a Hall of Famer is a Hall of Famer, dead or alive)
Frank, just curious if you can remember what Halimi was like in the ring?
-Rick Farris
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RqmM6c19T4Rick Farris wrote:Alphonse Halimi memories?
This one is for Frank and Hap, because I'm sure one or both of you saw this bout
1959 at the L.A. Sports Arena, bantam champ Alphonse Halimi loses his title to Jose Beccera?
Before that, Halimi had successfully defended his title in L.A., at Wrigley Field were he beat Raton Macias.
My question is what you might remember about Halimi, style-wise? He fought a couple special bantams in Macias and Beccera.
Born the last of thirteen children, only seven who'd reach adulthood, he was nicknamed- "La Petite Terreur" (The Little Terror).
TIME wrote of him-
"He went to work with a street fighter's will, a grown-up guttersnipe from the back alley's of Algeria. He worked like a heavyweight, swung looping haymakers, carless of where they landed, confident that they hurt"
The WBHOF is inducting Alphonse Halimi into the "posthumous catagory"
(Isn't the designation "posthumous" ridiculous? That's gotta go, a Hall of Famer is a Hall of Famer, dead or alive)
Frank, just curious if you can remember what Halimi was like in the ring?
-Rick Farris
Alphonse Halimi vs Jose Becerra
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Good News!
Lori was sent home yesterday evening. The danger has passed. she's still recovering but she's home with Tom and the kids.
Thanks guys for your prayers, thoughts and kind words. Jeri and I are grateful.
Thank you my friends!!
Randy and Jeri
Lori was sent home yesterday evening. The danger has passed. she's still recovering but she's home with Tom and the kids.
Thanks guys for your prayers, thoughts and kind words. Jeri and I are grateful.
Thank you my friends!!
Randy and Jeri
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Thanks to Jesus above all!!dagosd2000 wrote:
Happy Jesus
Jesus was most happy around kids. Here He is with children from all the races.
Randy
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Rick, I did see the Jose Becerra and Raton Macias fights live, Halimi was a fighter that came forward all the time and made for good action fights
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I never saw Redd Foxx in Vegas but I did go to see his TV show, Sanford and Son, in the early 70's. Mike Teran and I went. Foxx was hilarious and had the audience in stitches. The guy could cuss like no one else I ever heard. R.I.P.Rick Farris wrote:Anybody here see Redd Foxx's Vegas show?kikibalt wrote:
Sitting from left: Demond Wilson and Redd Foxx. Standing in background is a young George Foreman.
Saw him at the Hacienda Hotel in 1983.
-Rick Farris
Randy
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Yup, that's him.kikibalt wrote:dagosd2000 wrote:
Redd Foxx
Randy
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I met Cali at last year's California Boxing Hall of Fame. As soon as he heard my last name was De La O, he approached me inquiring about Placido De La O, the boxer that just vanished off the face of the earth. Not even his family knows what happened. He disappeared in the early 1950's. It turns out Cali and Placido were good friends.kikibalt wrote:Rick,Rick Farris wrote:Cali Martinez . . .
Frank, this is another guy I heard won a National GG's title for L.A. many years back?
He was trained by Johnny Forbes, out of that great stable with Teran, Cadilli, Jordon, Northrup, Chavez, etc.
I know he's a friend of Don Fraser.
Didn't equal the accomplishment professionally.
I don't believe he ever fought as a pro?
-Rick Farris
Cali Martinez won the National GG's in 1952, never turn pro, was a Johnny Forbes's fighter but at times trained by Harry Kabakoff and also by Frankie Saracho. Did you ever meet Frankie Saracho?, Saracho was at one time also Gil Cadilli's trainer, he was a well known and respected L.A. trainer in the late 1940's- early 1950's-early 1960's.
Admittedly, I had never heard of Placido De La O until Frank asked about him a while back. Coincidentally his daughter contacted me last year. It turns out we may very well be related. She has been trying for years to find out what happened to her father.
Cali and I had a nice conversation. He seems like a very nice guy.
Randy
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Personally I like Sean. At 17 years old he had the moxie to step into the ring with Danny Lopez. How can you not admire that? In Danny's home turf no less!raylawpc wrote:I know that none of you guys like him and probably hate it when I bring him up, but O'Grady felt that a long amateur career made it more difficult to transition to a successful pro career. Guys like Bubba Busceme seem to support that theory. More than 40 or 50 fights were "too many" in his opinion.kikibalt wrote:"Great amateurs boxers" for some reason or other don't make great pro fighters, we had some great amateurs, some national champions here in L.A. who as pros never got to be more then club fighters.Expug wrote:Thanks Tom.
Over the years here in Chicgo we have had tremendous amateurs who for whatever reason, couldnt quitemake it over the hump as pros.
Dan will remember some Im sure.
Wayne Lynum and Randy Smith come to mind. There are a bunch more. As I mentioned before,Leaving town to start a pro career would have been a good idea for some of these guys.At least back 20-30 years ago. Now, I have no idea.
He took on the tough Jim Watt and lost by TKO on cuts caused by a headbutt. I wasn't surprised when he beat Hilmer Kenty to win the Lightweight title a few years later. He seemed to have the right stuff.
There's a picture floating around from 1976, I think it was from the herald Examiner but may have been on all the sports pages. It shows O'Grady at the Main Street Gym with a towel over his shoulder. That was my towel. His father had forgotten to bring towels to the gym so Mel generously volunteered mine.
Randy