Khan - Kotelnik does only 30,000 buys PPV

[Asterix]

If that's true (about Haye) then he has mucked up twice. What are he and Adam Booth thinking?

[The Law]

Yes. I received an email press release from the Klitschko Management Group stating the very same thing.

“First of all, I feel sorry for the team of the Commerzbank-Arena and for the boxing fans in the Frankfurt region. We will try to set up another Klitschko fight in this wonderful arena as soon as possible. Also for us, the cancellation was very surprising as we got informed about it through the media. Haye’s manager Adam Booth did not even have the courage to give me a call personally and tell me about their decision – for me a sign of his inexistent class. Background of the pull-out are definitely the bad pay-per-view-TV figures of BSkyB in England”, says Bernd Bönte, Managing Director of the Klitschko Management Group.

The last fights of Ricky Hatton and new English shooting star Amir Khan (last weekend against Andreas Kotelnik) both had very poor sales on TV (Khan vs. Kotelnik less than 30.000 viewers). It was Haye’s desire to base his purse on the British TV earnings.

“Haye and his manager, whose home base is in the Turkish part of Cyprus for fiscal reasons, seem to have realized all of a sudden, that we have a global economic depression and English boxing fans are not that easily willing to pay 15 pounds for a bout. All the excuses of adhesion contracts are complete rubbish as Haye had already signed the same contract for the fight against Wladimir in June, which also contained a usual rematch clause and a pure Klitschko option. And for that fight he also pulled out. By the way, Vitali and myself attended Haye’s last fight against Monte Barrett at the O2 Arena in London. There were possibly 6.000 fans in a 20.000 seat arena. The guy is not a big draw in England at all. We were always surprised that he expected to get 2.7 million pounds out of the English pay-per-view sales for a fight against Vitali or Wladimir”, states Bönte further.

Wladimir Klitschko: ”Already during the negotiations for my June fight, we realized quickly that Haye and Booth are very unprofessional. Booth might be a good trainer but as a manager he is simply incompetent. David always had a big mouth and tried to offend us with ridiculous self-made t shirts. But when it comes up to step into the ring and show what he’s got, he runs away. He even admits that fighting Valuev is the easier way. For me Haye is a little, inexperienced kid who is afraid of his own courage. Doubtless, my brother would have knocked him out within the first four rounds.”

Klitschko Management Group has already started negotiating with potential opponents for Vitali’s next title defense. As soon as there are any news we will let you know immediately.

[Asterix]

Your link is malformed. Here you go: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/others ... schko.html

[Spud]

Its not like Team Kltischko to shout the odds - two statements from them are bound to get some form of reaction and are worthy of discussion!!!

The guy is not a big draw in England at all. We were always surprised that he expected to get 2.7 million pounds out of the English pay-per-view sales for a fight against Vitali or Wladimir”, states Bönte further.

”Already during the negotiations for my June fight, we realized quickly that Haye and Booth are very unprofessional. Booth might be a good trainer but as a manager he is simply incompetent.

Do you think they are unfair comments from Team Kltischko?

[mickey1975]

i have said many times on this forum haye is not a big draw.did anyone notice the empty seats at the thompson and barret fights?dont even get me started on huddersfield.they are the only bouts i went to,so i cant comment on the rest,but i imagine they were the same.the guy turned pro at the york hall and never even sold that out!

[twenty six]

Well Mr Boxingchat was asked the direct question on the thread "Half Full Venue" but someone locked the thread giving him the perfect excuse not to answer
So now we know.
All we need now are the official attendance figures, then we can do the maths.

[leforge]

That really poor figures. He should be getting about 100,000 at least.

[TheCobra]

I don't blame Haye tbh, the Klitschkos are trying to hang him out to dry. I think haye has realised he's selling himself short, the fight for him vs Wlad sold out very quick and it was off the back of him as well as Wlad. Why sell his soul when he can get better money and better chance vs Valuev. I see it as an excellent business decision. Well done Haye and Booth.

[Khaosai-Galaxy]

PPV numbers have not been released for Khan - Kotelnik, it takes weeks if not months for the numbers to come through


slow down lads, since when dd the Klits manager become the Qu'ran?

[Counter-puncher]

Its not like Team Kltischko to shout the odds - two statements from them are bound to get some form of reaction and are worthy of discussion!!!

The guy is not a big draw in England at all. We were always surprised that he expected to get 2.7 million pounds out of the English pay-per-view sales for a fight against Vitali or Wladimir”, states Bönte further.

”Already during the negotiations for my June fight, we realized quickly that Haye and Booth are very unprofessional. Booth might be a good trainer but as a manager he is simply incompetent.

Do you think they are unfair comments from Team Kltischko?

They are spot-on from where I am sitting

[boxingchat]

Well Mr Boxingchat was asked the direct question on the thread "Half Full Venue" but someone locked the thread giving him the perfect excuse not to answer
So now we know.
All we need now are the official attendance figures, then we can do the maths.

If you are so good at maths why don't you help Ryan Rhodes count his earnings of late, shouldn't take too long should it? By the way has his Manager come round yet?

[Deserter]

Well Mr Boxingchat was asked the direct question on the thread "Half Full Venue" but someone locked the thread giving him the perfect excuse not to answer
So now we know.
All we need now are the official attendance figures, then we can do the maths.

If you are so good at maths why don't you help Ryan Rhodes count his earnings of late, shouldn't take too long should it? By the way has his Manager come round yet?

Wonderful avoidance of the question, as per normal.

[Counter-puncher]

Well Mr Boxingchat was asked the direct question on the thread "Half Full Venue" but someone locked the thread giving him the perfect excuse not to answer
So now we know.
All we need now are the official attendance figures, then we can do the maths.

If you are so good at maths why don't you help Ryan Rhodes count his earnings of late, shouldn't take too long should it? By the way has his Manager come round yet?

Wonderful avoidance of the question, as per normal.

i was going to say, 'w*nker, as usual'

[whicker]

Well Mr Boxingchat was asked the direct question on the thread "Half Full Venue" but someone locked the thread giving him the perfect excuse not to answer
So now we know.
All we need now are the official attendance figures, then we can do the maths.

If you are so good at maths why don't you help Ryan Rhodes count his earnings of late, shouldn't take too long should it? By the way has his Manager come round yet?

Are you acting like this on purpose?

[s9s]

I don't blame Haye tbh, the Klitschkos are trying to hang him out to dry. I think haye has realised he's selling himself short, the fight for him vs Wlad sold out very quick and it was off the back of him as well as Wlad. Why sell his soul when he can get better money and better chance vs Valuev. I see it as an excellent business decision. Well done Haye and Booth.

Haye selling himself short? I think he should realise that by pulling out of the first Klit fight peed off many UK punters who had staked out money for it, especially when he cited a back injury when we all knew the truth.

I'm afraid holding out for money means to me he does not want the glory, just the money. He'll beat Valuev, and defend against a few journey men, all the time saying the Klits won't fight him and the gullible public believing him. And here we are complaining about tv pulling out of the sport, and you wonder why?

[lirva]

I don't blame Haye tbh, the Klitschkos are trying to hang him out to dry. I think haye has realised he's selling himself short, the fight for him vs Wlad sold out very quick and it was off the back of him as well as Wlad. Why sell his soul when he can get better money and better chance vs Valuev. I see it as an excellent business decision. Well done Haye and Booth.

Haye selling himself short? I think he should realise that by pulling out of the first Klit fight peed off many UK punters who had staked out money for it, especially when he cited a back injury when we all knew the truth.

I'm afraid holding out for money means to me he does not want the glory, just the money. He'll beat Valuev, and defend against a few journey men, all the time saying the Klits won't fight him and the gullible public believing him. And here we are complaining about tv pulling out of the sport, and you wonder why?

For a man who talked so much absolute shite in the build up, it left a bad taste now that he has had both Klitschko fights on a plate but pulled out of both fights.

[Autobarn]

well let's not forget he gambled on one fight, went well inactive, and the pullout was understandable given terms imposed by the klits and the fact that haye's paymasters went under.

[lefthook82]

become mandatory and a rematch clause cant be activated and you also get 25% of the purse bids

Problem solved?

What is with us workshy brits?

Haye is the 'Vicky Pollard' of the boxing world. Wants to collect benefits without working for it. 22 fights in how many years as a pro. And unlike Calzaghe/Froch in the early years I dont recall haye being struckk down by persistent injuries/pull outs

[sendo]

So the Klitschko's admit they did have options for 2 fights on Haye then, rematch and a Klitschko option which no doubt would have been the other brother. Why should Haye have to fight them 3 times for a pittance?

Better off fighting Valuev and taking it from there.

[J]

become mandatory and a rematch clause cant be activated and you also get 25% of the purse bids

Problem solved?

What is with us workshy brits?

Haye is the 'Vicky Pollard' of the boxing world. Wants to collect benefits without working for it. 22 fights in how many years as a pro. And unlike Calzaghe/Froch in the early years I dont recall haye being struckk down by persistent injuries/pull outs

yeah that work shy fighter who took on thompson in his 11 th fight, the same work shy guy who went to France to win the unified crsuierweight belts, the same workshy guy who shut up his critics by panning Macca in a fight many at the time didnt fancy him to win?

give me that over the skleton williams harrison sprott merry go round any day of the week.

[lefthook82]

@J

Would you agree that if he had fught another two top 10 fighters in the time since barrett fight he would probably have been a mando. Is that in dispute?

[J]

I agree he has been too inactive and it would of course be preferred but being workshy is not a real allegation to make against Haye imo. Looked for the biggest challenges out there.

Cant win can he, if he takes on more monte barretts he is fighting "bums" if he goes for it he is work shy.

[twenty six]

Boxingchat,
I thank the Lord that you are not employed by me.
Wazza must be ecstatic at the fine PR job you're doing.
Also, as you well know, Rhodes does not have a Manager, but if it's Mr Coldwell you're referring to, he's absolutely fine thank you.
At least others around here are now seeing you in your true colours.
Don't forget to brew the elevenses ......

[lefthook82]

Fair enough @ J

[J]