Rahman in NZ

[funso banjo baby]

apparently (according to eastsideboxing) on the Tua Cameron undercard ?????

its bizarre

even more bizarre the opps are possibly Hopp ????

haumano ?????

or Meehan ??????????



i say bring in Ishimaru Peter O

[Brute]

Another post from the Bedlam Hospital. Considering that Rahman fought Tua twice for a draw and a KO loss, why wouldn't he be on Tua's undercard?


Rahman will probably fight Meehan. I cannot see any of the others being a real match.

[Rogue]

All will be revealed soon....

[Soundkamp]

here is the article for those

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/2674365/Bo ... ight-in-NZ

i think it would be Mehaan, after Hoppa's recent outing in the states i do not see him take on Raham (if he does he would get a real whooping) Solman as much as i like this bloke he just isnt impressive enough to have a fight like this, but they might be after his undefeated record to sell the fight. I would of thought even Alex Leapai as a distant chance after his ranking boost recently.

But the fight that makes sense is Kali, and the bloke deserves it.

Big credit to Higgins for this fight card, should be a very impressive fight night. This would be a good undercard for Lenny Zappa to try and get on.

[Hounddawg]

Rahman has a 4th round TKO win against Meehan, so it would be a revenge fight for Kali.

You could throw Demori in there as well,Don King's behind him so you never know.

It wont be Solo, he's fighting next month and then in september against Kirby, it'll be a war against Kirby and realisticly couldn't back up that soon.

Leapai has a lot of fights scheduled in Australia until the end of the year.

I would be annoyed if Hoppa got the shot, he doesn't deserve it.

[Brute]

If Kali does get the fight he will have preparation time for a change. Most of his overseas fights have been at very short notice.

[funso banjo baby]

will kali take this fight ????

i doubt it

hes finished if he gets blown out again

there can be no excuses this time

[isabella]

best chances Meehan,Welliver or Leapai are going to chase the fight with Rahman in my opinion Leapai should if victory he'll boost his name in the world scene especially in the states and germany.Hopoate doesn't deserve it more likely he won't even take it after his out come against McCall it was embarrassing and the title defense against big bob was a disgrace performance.

Meehan,Welliver or Leapai

[funso banjo baby]

Peter 'ishimaru' Okhello

statistically (or on recent form) hes the best fight.

he wasnt troubled by oleg...whereas Rahman was jettisoned out of the ring twice by Oleg .

i say go for okhello and okhello to score a win against an unfocussed Rahman and secure an unlikely second shot at a world bauble !

stranger things have happened.

[Soundkamp]

Peter 'ishimaru' Okhello

statistically (or on recent form) hes the best fight.

he wasnt troubled by oleg...whereas Rahman was jettisoned out of the ring twice by Oleg .

i say go for okhello and okhello to score a win against an unfocussed Rahman and secure an unlikely second shot at a world bauble !

stranger things have happened.

i don't think Okhello is in the running for a fight against Rahman, as he is not an Australian heavyweight.

I dont think it will be Chauncy Welliver, no disrespect to Chauncy but i dont think he could last with the every exprienced Hasim Rahman, the only person that makes sense is Kali hes ranked and this would be what could get him that world title fight.

[Darkshark]

Isn't there some BS floating around about the winner of Rahmans fight taking on the Cameron vs. Tua winner in an eliminator for a title shot?
Cant see it coming off TBH, but with Haye due to take on the Russian freakshow for the WBA strap, could this mean that (assuming Kali takes the Rahman fight) either Kali, Rahman, Tua or Cameron would get a title shot?
And exactly how does being the best out of this lot at this point qualify someone for that fight?

[Soundkamp]

Isn't there some BS floating around about the winner of Rahmans fight taking on the Cameron vs. Tua winner in an eliminator for a title shot?
Cant see it coming off TBH, but with Haye due to take on the Russian freakshow for the WBA strap, could this mean that (assuming Kali takes the Rahman fight) either Kali, Rahman, Tua or Cameron would get a title shot?
And exactly how does being the best out of this lot at this point qualify someone for that fight?

Yeah i heard the same thing, and the logical title would be Nikolai's (im not convinced that untested Haye cant take it from him) but also isnt Kali the number 1 contender for the WBA? I think it would be a very good card to see Kali, Rahman, Tua & Cameron.

[Hounddawg]

Isn't there some BS floating around about the winner of Rahmans fight taking on the Cameron vs. Tua winner in an eliminator for a title shot?
Cant see it coming off TBH, but with Haye due to take on the Russian freakshow for the WBA strap, could this mean that (assuming Kali takes the Rahman fight) either Kali, Rahman, Tua or Cameron would get a title shot?
And exactly how does being the best out of this lot at this point qualify someone for that fight?

How does the freak who holds the belt still have the belt, he was beaten by Holyfield and was given a gift.......must be his mafia connections :P

[Brute]

Peter 'ishimaru' Okhello

statistically (or on recent form) hes the best fight.

he wasnt troubled by oleg...whereas Rahman was jettisoned out of the ring twice by Oleg .

i say go for okhello and okhello to score a win against an unfocussed Rahman and secure an unlikely second shot at a world bauble !

stranger things have happened.

Okhello has one KO loss

KO3 by Kali Meehan.

[N2 Shape]

Of course we would jump at the chance of a Welliver VS Rahman Fight. Apparently TV got alot to do with it and Welliver doesnt fit the TV bill?? He has the record and has the following in NZ and he'd be well loved by the Aussies given his personality also. It's a crossroads fight Rahman wins he keeps his name in the heavyweight frame, plus creates himself a new market and possible fights against Meehan, De Mori, Haumono, Hoppa, Tua etc. Welliver wins it opens up alot of doors for big fights, including fights down here in OZ Kirby, Haumono, Hoppa, De Mori etc

[oliverfennell]

I can't really see the point of Rahman-Meehan 2, since the first time around it was pretty clear-cut. Having said that, it's the best option of the three. Perhaps it will be closer/longer than last time because Rahman's faded more than Meehan, despite being younger, but then again it;s hard to gauge Meehan's current form because of his inactivity and poor opposition (Williamson aside, and that was a fair while ago anyway). Furthermore, does Meehan want to risk his ranking at this stage? Another loss would essentially be the end for him.

Haumono might be a nice scalp for Rahman in that he's a reasonably well-known and undefeated prospect, but neither may want the risk. Rahman, because he may not need a hard-punching younger prospect in his life, especially one without a ranking. Haumono, because he's not shown the matchmaking ambition to suggest he wants a piece of someone like Rahman, who's an enormous step up even as a faded version. Maybe Solo will trade in his unbeaten record against a top name for a big payday, but I can't imagine an undercard match vs an ageing and largely discredited (in world class term) Rahman can generate that sort of payday.

Hoppa? Forget about it. No reason to think Rahman wouldn't do exactly the same thing as McCall, maybe even a round quicker.

[oliverfennell]

And FBB, what is it with your lovefest for Okhello?? Yeah he was a reasonable operator at regional level, but nothing special. What gives?

[Darkshark]

How does the freak who holds the belt still have the belt, he was beaten by Holyfield and was given a gift.......must be his mafia connections :P

Point taken

N2Shape, Would it be fair to say that Rahman's being brought onto the card to mainly help gain attention and possible PPV sales in the US? If he is then the question isn't Chauncy's credibility and recognition in Australasia but in the States.

[Rogue]

Rahman in theory should fight the most deserving boxer in Australasia at heavy weight (prob. Kali Meehan) but the market being such, a 'known- in public domain' name might end up getting the shot. It's the Butter bean or Kimbo Slice effect...who is Australia's Kimbo Slice? Human interest will in most occasions outdo the best of pugilism. It's sad but factual reality.....

[Brute]

Rahman in theory should fight the most deserving boxer in Australasia at heavy weight (prob. Kali Meehan) but the market being such, a 'known- in public domain' name might end up getting the shot. It's the Butter bean or Kimbo Slice effect...who is Australia's Kimbo Slice? Human interest will in most occasions outdo the best of pugilism. It's sad but factual reality.....

Is a kimbo slice anything like a vanilla slice?

[Rogue]

Must be.... that's why he got wasted in 14 seconds V a half-decent 'pro'......LOL........

[Brute]

Boom tish! D

[Hounddawg]

Must be.... that's why he got wasted in 14 seconds V a half-decent 'pro'......LOL........

Pretty lucky punch by Seth......... more of a Knee jerk reaction to what even Seth thought was an ass kicking coming his way, surprisingly i've seen Kinbo cop a way bigger punch and keep going.

It was amazing how far Kimbo came after recording his street fights.

http://www.kimbo305.com/kimbo-vs-the-bouncer.htm

http://www.kimbo305.com/kimbo-fights-compilation.htm

http://www.kimbo305.com/kimbo-vs-big-d.htm

He came from the gutter to this.

http://www.kimbo305.com/kimbo-vs-tank-abbott.htm

[Rogue]

DD

[adnileb]

I'd like to see either Haumono or Leapai step up to Rahman even though they both aren't at his level. In saying that, Rahman looked terrible against Klitschko. Outa shape, but he was also a fill in for last minute pullout, which probably explained his performance & loss on the night. He hasn't fought for almost 7 months.

Rahman was all over Kali who didn't look up to par in their last matchup in late 2004, but according to Kalis camp he injured his back prior to the fight which raises the question on how far do you push your boxer. Sure, the opportunity to progress and move up the ranks is there, but the health of your fighter is also very important. Risk vs Reward as they say.

Based on Hoppas last 2 fights I just cant see as much public interest, but then I could be wrong.
A fit conditioned Solo/Alex would be an interesting fight. unfortunately sometimes those deserving a shot at a credible opponent is not feasible from a promoters business point of view.(bums on seats, PPV, household names etc...)

Alex & Kali, are not as well known to the general public as they are to the boxing fanatics as ourselves, therefore a slim chance of them getting a shot even though I think Kali is deserving

Chauncy, if your reading this, you need to get serious about your boxing. You are out of shape. Won't go into detail on a public forum. (take it as constructive criticism)...