Billy Dib welcomes a re-match with Kenichi Yamaguchi

[p4p1]

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[toppity]

deny

[oliverfennell]

Perhaps even more important than what Team Dib do or don't do is what the state or national governing body (not sure how it works in Australia) does.

Dib absolutely needs to be penalised, and any decent governing body in the world (US states, western European nations, etc) would do so. This incident has brought a lot of bad publicity to Australian boxing and only by punishing Dib (and the ref needs to at least be interviewed, too), will any face be saved.

Caveat: I know it is not Australian boxing's fault that this happened. The blame lies entirely with Dib. But it is the wider Australian boxing community which must react appropriately.

[Soundkamp]

From reading all the comments it just seems that a majority of you have never been a fan of Billy, which as a fan you have the right to do so.

Billy is definitely at fault for what he did, but lets have a look at the facts here. Yamaghuci was fighting a very dirty fight in the first round (it actually pissed me off they way he was parading around with his little petty tricks), he got floored went to the canvas from a barrage of shots from Billy, while he was down Billy whacked him clean in the head (I do believe this was still in the heat of the moment from the frustration, Not as bad as Sio who you all love). The fighter could not stand to his feet after the count, who is at fault for the result?

The Ref, there are a million ways that it could have been handled and what he did was the one way it should not have been handled. The sanctioning body should have changed the result by now as it is incorrect. Billy’s Team should be fined for the involvement of the entourage (which we have all seen many many times in big fights eg Zab v Floyd, MAB v Morales etc).

Expectations of Billy apologizing! You are joking aren’t you??? you expect him to come out and say “Im sorry I am a dirty fighter I did that intentionally and I should be punished and fined”, No fighter will do that because they still believe they didn’t do anything wrong, if you were a fighter you wouldn’t come out and say it. This is boxing you should all know this by now.

This is the most talked about show of the 3 that have happened and the attraction this created added another show to the scheduled 3 shows for Superboxer (and it was the most entertaining one so far).

[oliverfennell]

Billy is definitely at fault for what he did, but lets have a look at the facts here. Yamaghuci was fighting a very dirty fight in the first round (it actually pissed me off they way he was parading around with his little petty tricks), he got floored went to the canvas from a barrage of shots from Billy, while he was down Billy whacked him clean in the head (I do believe this was still in the heat of the moment from the frustration, Not as bad as Sio who you all love). The fighter could not stand to his feet after the count, who is at fault for the result?

You do see the hypocrisy here, don't you?

Expectations of Billy apologizing! You are joking aren’t you??? you expect him to come out and say “Im sorry I am a dirty fighter I did that intentionally and I should be punished and fined”, No fighter will do that because they still believe they didn’t do anything wrong, if you were a fighter you wouldn’t come out and say it. This is boxing you should all know this by now.

Absolute BS.

Fighters make excuses for losses; that is an essential part of maintaining confidence. They make excuses for transgressions if there is an element of doubt (for example, I didn't take steroids on purpose, they were in my medicine). There is absolutely no doubt about Dib's actions, and even if the original foul COULD have been unintentional, shoving Yamaguchi afterwards was not. It's all there plain to see and he gains absolutely nothing by not apologising - indeed, not even RECOGNISING the incident.

[p4p1]

From reading all the comments it just seems that a majority of you have never been a fan of Billy, which as a fan you have the right to do so.

Billy is definitely at fault for what he did, but lets have a look at the facts here. Yamaghuci was fighting a very dirty fight in the first round (it actually pissed me off they way he was parading around with his little petty tricks), he got floored went to the canvas from a barrage of shots from Billy, while he was down Billy whacked him clean in the head (I do believe this was still in the heat of the moment from the frustration, Not as bad as Sio who you all love). The fighter could not stand to his feet after the count, who is at fault for the result?

The Ref, there are a million ways that it could have been handled and what he did was the one way it should not have been handled. The sanctioning body should have changed the result by now as it is incorrect. Billy’s Team should be fined for the involvement of the entourage (which we have all seen many many times in big fights eg Zab v Floyd, MAB v Morales etc).

Expectations of Billy apologizing! You are joking aren’t you??? you expect him to come out and say “Im sorry I am a dirty fighter I did that intentionally and I should be punished and fined”, No fighter will do that because they still believe they didn’t do anything wrong, if you were a fighter you wouldn’t come out and say it. This is boxing you should all know this by now.

This is the most talked about show of the 3 that have happened and the attraction this created added another show to the scheduled 3 shows for Superboxer (and it was the most entertaining one so far).

watch it again

[p4p1]

heres the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIqXfcNRLV0

[adamheight]

who in the hell where those 2 guys commentating?

they were almost as proposterous as billy dibs performance

ONE HD: i appreciate u putting these fights on your channel, but please find a new commentary team

[Beltane]

Time for Barry Michael to put up his commentators hand in view of unbiased approach heard recently at the last Mundine bout.

[foxdog1923]

I'm a boxing fan from Las Vegas,Nv. I've been to many pro fights here and around the United States and I have to say that what I've seen from the replays on the web make boxing in Australia look like a joke.The referee was completely incompetent and was either paid off or biased to allow and obvious foul to be ignored. It was an intentional foul too.It wasn't part of a combination as the fighter was going down ,which is a part of boxing.It was a horrible cheap shot at a defenseless fighter which makes Dib a complete loser and coward.For him to not even acknowledge he did anything wrong is a joke.He was 100% responsible for what happened and to try to pass the blame around shows how little character he has.That the Japanese fihgter was able to speak with him after the fight shows who the man with honor is.I've also never seen such biased and blantant hometown commentating in my life.Even after seeing the clear foul the loser doing the interview says what a great job Dib did.If Dib has any balls or character at all he will insist the rematch take place no where else but in Japan with a Japanese referee and judges.I'm guessing from what I've seen of him that will not be the case.He seems to be a coward who can't fight without every advantge in his favor including a crowd of morons backing him up.

I feel the same way as you when I watched this fight. The referee made a poor decision to count Yamaguchi he should have deducted a point from Dib and gave Yamaguchi some recovery time and then allowed the fight to continue, instead we were all robbed. We the spectators/viewers were about to see a great fight, both boxers were in for a great bout for them and there boxing but the reff made a bad call. I too thought the reff showed some biased moments, one time Dib was clearly holding on to Yamaguchi and the reff warned Yama for the clinching it was the way he warned Yama that seemed biased, it was like he was yelling at a little boy. He warned Dib for the same thing but with a nicer lighter tone. He had no problem counting out Yamaguchi, once Yamaguchi was on both knees Dib hit him with his hardest flushest punch of the night before that Dib was only hitting Yamas guard. Geez I think the referee was fresh out of singing the Australian national anthem.

Biased reff??...you just have to watch the fight to see the proof.

[Sweet P]

I'm a boxing fan from Las Vegas,Nv. I've been to many pro fights here and around the United States and I have to say that what I've seen from the replays on the web make boxing in Australia look like a joke.The referee was completely incompetent and was either paid off or biased to allow and obvious foul to be ignored. It was an intentional foul too.It wasn't part of a combination as the fighter was going down ,which is a part of boxing.It was a horrible cheap shot at a defenseless fighter which makes Dib a complete loser and coward.For him to not even acknowledge he did anything wrong is a joke.He was 100% responsible for what happened and to try to pass the blame around shows how little character he has.That the Japanese fihgter was able to speak with him after the fight shows who the man with honor is.I've also never seen such biased and blantant hometown commentating in my life.Even after seeing the clear foul the loser doing the interview says what a great job Dib did.If Dib has any balls or character at all he will insist the rematch take place no where else but in Japan with a Japanese referee and judges.I'm guessing from what I've seen of him that will not be the case.He seems to be a coward who can't fight without every advantge in his favor including a crowd of morons backing him up.

I feel the same way as you when I watched this fight. The referee made a poor decision to count Yamaguchi he should have deducted a point from Dib and gave Yamaguchi some recovery time and then allowed the fight to continue, instead we were all robbed. We the spectators/viewers were about to see a great fight, both boxers were in for a great bout for them and there boxing but the reff made a bad call. I too thought the reff showed some biased moments, one time Dib was clearly holding on to Yamaguchi and the reff warned Yama for the clinching it was the way he warned Yama that seemed biased, it was like he was yelling at a little boy. He warned Dib for the same thing but with a nicer lighter tone. He had no problem counting out Yamaguchi, once Yamaguchi was on both knees Dib hit him with his hardest flushest punch of the night before that Dib was only hitting Yamas guard. Geez I think the referee was fresh out of singing the Australian national anthem.

Biased reff??...you just have to watch the fight to see the proof.

Well said, You are both Spot on

[Sweet P]

I would also like to add, Apparently Team Dib want nothing to do with a rematch. I heard it from some one close to Yamaguchi Camp.

[Sweet P]

Also i heard that Yamaguchi isnt allowed to fight in Japan. So a rematch there is out of the Question.

[foxdog1923]

A rematch in Australia should be ok, all the other reffs I've seen there have been good its just 'that' reff could've handled that fight with a bit more consideration.

Allthough I strongly feel we want see an episode like that again, it'll probably be hard to convince Yamaguchi and his camp to have a rematch in Aus. Yamaguchi's probably scared now to fight in Aus simply because he'd be hit on the ground and his camp would get a hiding if they disagreed with their fighter receiving a blow while on his knees (execution style).

I hope they have a rematch in Aus so we can see whos the better boxer. I havent seen Billy Dib before and I didnt get to see his boxing at all. Hope we see these 2 together again, because of the last fight the next should be good.

[Rogue]

It's all well in saying Dib welcomes a re-match but Yama' is very unlikely to accept. The first episode was bizzaire and a disgrace (especially the post fight shoving and screaming match) Oh well. What was it "In the moment...."?

[Hounddawg]

Billy Dibb carried on like a grub..an ametuer.......but in fairness to the bloke, Yamaguchi should not be getting of so easily, he tackled,kneed and carried on like a nut, in some peoples law, justice was served.
Lets look at the facts here, Yamaguchi landed a knockdown that looks like a punch to the back of the head, no one has brought this up! The man is also very limited as a fighter, and would not of lasted 3 rounds........rematch? what for, you all say he slipped....I say bullshit, he got smashed backwards and his feet landed under and behind the ropes, but you can't take away the fact that it was a good one,two and was probally going down prior to his feet being behind the ropes.

What happened after this i can't support and it was an absolute disgrace, and the right decision has eventually been made, but i will say this to those who think standing over a man bashing him senseless while he lay flat on his back is the same as punching a man while he's on his knees.....wake up!

[Soundkamp]

Billy Dibb carried on like a grub..an ametuer.......but in fairness to the bloke, Yamaguchi should not be getting of so easily, he tackled,kneed and carried on like a nut, in some peoples law, justice was served.
Lets look at the facts here, Yamaguchi landed a knockdown that looks like a punch to the back of the head, no one has brought this up! The man is also very limited as a fighter, and would not of lasted 3 rounds........rematch? what for, you all say he slipped....I say bullshit, he got smashed backwards and his feet landed under and behind the ropes, but you can't take away the fact that it was a good one,two and was probally going down prior to his feet being behind the ropes.

What happened after this i can't support and it was an absolute disgrace, and the right decision has eventually been made, but i will say this to those who think standing over a man bashing him senseless while he lay flat on his back is the same as punching a man while he's on his knees.....wake up!

thats what i been trying to say!!!! on point dawwwg

reality is that this is a easy fight for Dib, his management cant afford to loose to a no name and after the smashing that luevno gave billy his credibility has been shattered...Plus i honestly think Dibs better days are past him until he adjusts his attitude and his management and trainers.

[foxdog1923]

In boxing if your on your knees this is classed as a knockdown every other position (being on your back, on your stomach) is classed the same, a knockdown. During this you will be given a count to 10 to show full 'RECOVERY' during none of these times should you be hit. Both Sio and Dib are guilty.

Its the referee's fault and thats fact the other fact is of all punches thrown in that fight none of them were clear,crisp or flush apart from the Dib's punch on Yamaguchi while he was on his knees. Watch the fight again and you'll have to agree that Dib's illegal punch the best of the night and looks rather execution style.

[foxdog1923]

It's all well in saying Dib welcomes a re-match but Yama' is very unlikely to accept. The first episode was bizzaire and a disgrace (especially the post fight shoving and screaming match) Oh well. What was it "In the moment...."?

'In the moment...' quote was what Dib said about his illegal punch after the fight. When they were going over the replays and they showed the illegal punch the whole crowed went 'ooohhhhh,' because it was blantantly obvious and Dib showed guilt and muttered something like 'In the moment...' reffering to exactly what Roy Sio went through, he too was 'in the moment..', adrenalin caught both of these guys. Same crime but a different result.

[AntonS]

Dib has now been in pro ranks 5 years & 2 weeks.
If he was an apprentice in any trade he'd be out on his arse. It seems to me he hadn't learned anything.

[Rogue]

"In the moment" .... how poetic D Thought it went well with the TV production and Dib did an innocent school boy impression. Gave it a Shania Twain twist to an otherwise ugly look. (Appologies to Twain, she sang "In this moment")

[oliverfennell]

A knockdown is classed as any part of the body except the feet touching the canvas. Absolutely being on your knees is a knockdown, and so hitting him in that position IS the same as hitting him if he was on his back.

[Hounddawg]

A knockdown is classed as any part of the body except the feet touching the canvas. Absolutely being on your knees is a knockdown, and so hitting him in that position IS the same as hitting him if he was on his back.

I disagree..... this is B/S, i know i would much rather be punched on my knees than when i was flat on my back from a KO 5 seconds prior, according to most who post here Dibs knockdown was a slip, not a Knockdown which is B/S, it was a clear KO and he in turn hit a man when on his knees(disgraceful) but he didn't wildly swing Kill Punch's on a man while still regaining his faculties while flat on his back. There are heaps of fighters who have hit a man while on his knee's, can you find me 1 that have hit a man while he was on his back?

Do you condone kicking while a man is on his back???

Look I realise a fragrant foul is a fragrant foul, but if people are going to say that Dib and Sio's actions are in the same league, I've honestly have no idea anymore.

I really don't understand these little loop holes that people are getting at, it's like the other sport i love League, they twist and turn the rules and use it down to very written word and compare two very different outcomes and at the end come to the conclusion that the two variables in question are very similar once disected. If you ask two complete strangers there oppinion on both acts I'm sure you'll be surprised to know that answer you found was that YOU JUST DON"T LIKE DIB.

Peace

[oliverfennell]

My point wasn't really about which was worse - punching an opponent on his knees or on his back - but that under the rules of boxing, it's exactly the same thing.

[Hounddawg]

Well dont i feel silly point taken.