Fantasy fights ROUND TWO!

theguvnor · Post by **theguvnor** » 18 Sep 2004, 10:25

Who would win the following fights?, if all fighters are in thier prime, as they were when they won the title.

Ray Mercer V Max Baer
Lennox Lewis V Tim Witherspoon
Michael Spinks V Leon Spinks
George Foreman (1973) V Jack Johnson
James J Jeffries V Joe Louis
Primo Carnera V Sonny Liston
Roy Jones, Jr. V Floyd Patterson
John Tate V Wladimir Klitschko
Ingemar Johansson V Corrie Sanders
Rocky Marciano V Joe Frazier
James Douglas V Larry Holmes
Frank Bruno V Gene Tunney
Oliver McCall V Mike Tyson
Ezzard Charles V Jess Willard
Jack Dempsey V Evander Holyfield
Muhammed Ali V James J Braddock

jezzamundo · Post by **jezzamundo** » 19 Sep 2004, 01:22

Ray Mercer TKOs Max Baer
Lennox Lewis TKOs Tim Witherspoon
Michael Spinks SD Leon Spinks
George Foreman (1973) KOs Jack Johnson
Joe Louis KOs James J Jefferies
Sonny Liston KOs Primo Carnera
Roy Jones, Jr. SD Floyd Patterson
John Tate KOs Wladmir Klitchko
Ingemar Johansson UD Corrie Sanders
Rocky Marciano TKOs Joe Frazier
Larry Holmes TKOs James Douglas
Gene Tunney TKOs Frank Bruno
Mike Tyson TKOs Oliver McCall
Ezzard Charles KOs Jess Willard
Evander Holyfield UD Jack Dempsey
Muhammed Ali UD James J Braddock

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 19 Sep 2004, 07:56

Max Baer KO Ray Mercer
Tim Witherspoon KO Lennox Lewis
Michael Spinks W12 Leon Spinks
Jack Johnson TKO George Foreman
Joe Louis KO James J. Jeffries
Sonny Liston KO Primo Carnera
Floyd Patterson KO Roy Jones Jr.
John Tate TKO Wladimir Klitschko
Ingemar Johansson W12 Corrie Sanders
Joe Frazier TKO Rocky Marciano
Lary Holmes W12 James (Buster) Douglas
Gene Tunney KO Frank Bruno
Mike Tyson KO Oliver McCall
Ezzard Charles KO Jess Willard
Jack Dempsey TKO Evander Holyfield
Muhammed Ali W12 James J. Braddock

wouter · Post by **wouter** » 19 Sep 2004, 08:09

Baer W 12 Mercer
Lewis W 12 Witherspoon
L.Spinks W 12 M.Spinks
Foreman W 12 Johnson
Jeffries KO 10 Louis
Liston KO 4 Carnera
Patterson W 12 Jones
Tate W 12 Klitschko
Johansson KO 8 Sanders
Marciano KO 10 Frazier
Holmes KO 10 Douglas
Tunney W 12 Bruno
Tyson W 12 McCall
Charles W 12 Willard
Dempsey W 12 Holyfield
Ali W 12 Braddock

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 19 Sep 2004, 10:34

Baer TKO12 Mercer

Lewis-Witherspoon-tough one, Tim had a great overhand right but he telegraphed it and was not the smartest boxer . . . Lewis UD 12

Michael Spinks W12 big brother Leon

Johnson UD12 Foreman

Jefferies-Louis-can't really judge Jim due to lack of good film footage, I'll just say Louis UD12.

Liston easy KO over Carnera

Patterson KO Jones Jr

Tate KO Klitschko

Johansson KO 6 Sanders

Marciano SD12 Frazier

Holmes KO Douglas

Tunney TKO 11 Bruno

Tyson UD12 McCall

Charles UD12 Williard

Dempsey TKO9 Holyfield

Sweet Scientist · Post by **Sweet Scientist** » 19 Sep 2004, 20:31

...just a quick observation...

...it seems quite odd to see W-12 or UD-12 beside guy's names who never fought in a 12 round championship fight...(the majority of the list)...some of those guys were just getting warmed up after 12 rounds!!!

zslayton · Post by **zslayton** » 19 Sep 2004, 23:53

Ray Mercer V Max Baer
Lennox Lewis V Tim Witherspoon = Lennox by KO
Michael Spinks V Leon Spinks = Michael Spinks by Decision
George Foreman (1973) V Jack Johnson = George by KO
James J Jeffries V Joe Louis = Joe Louis by KO
Primo Carnera V Sonny Liston = Sonny Liston by KO
Roy Jones, Jr. V Floyd Patterson = Roy Jones Jr by Decision
John Tate V Wladimir Klitschko = Wladimir Klitschko by KO
Ingemar Johansson V Corrie Sanders = Corrie Sanders by KORocky Marciano V Joe Frazier = Joe Frazier by KO
James Douglas V Larry Holmes = Larry Holmes by KO
Frank Bruno V Gene Tunney = Frank Bruno by KO
Oliver McCall V Mike Tyson = Mike Tyson by KO
Ezzard Charles V Jess Willard = Ezzard Charles by KO
Jack Dempsey V Evander Holyfield = Evander Holyfield by KO
Muhammed Ali V James J Braddock = Muhammed Ali by KO

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 22 Sep 2004, 10:45

Baer UD
Lewis UD
M.Spinks UD
Foreman KO
Louis KO
Liston KO
Patterson KO
W.Klitschko KO
Johansson KO
Marciano KO
Holmes KO
Tunney UD
Tyson UD
Charles UD
Dempsey KO
Ali UD

theguvnor · Post by **theguvnor** » 04 Oct 2004, 02:07

Ray Mercer V Max Baer - Baer TKO
Lennox Lewis V Tim Witherspoon - Lewis PTS
Michael Spinks V Leon Spinks - M Spinks TKO 6
George Foreman (1973) V Jack Johnson - Foreman KO 3
James J Jeffries V Joe Louis - Louis KO 9
Primo Carnera V Sonny Liston - Liston KO 6
Roy Jones, Jr. V Floyd Patterson - Patterson TKO 12
John Tate V Wladimir Klitschko - Tate KO 9
Ingemar Johansson V Corrie Sanders - Johansson TKO 5
Rocky Marciano V Joe Frazier - Marciano TKO 14
James Douglas V Larry Holmes - Holmes TKO 11
Frank Bruno V Gene Tunney - Tunney TKO 11
Oliver McCall V Mike Tyson - Tyson TKO 6
Ezzard Charles V Jess Willard - Charles KO 9
Jack Dempsey V Evander Holyfield - Holyfield PTS 12
Muhammed Ali V James J Braddock Ali TKO 8

Marciano Frazier · Post by **Marciano Frazier** » 07 Oct 2004, 22:03

theguvnor wrote:Who would win the following fights?, if all fighters are in thier prime, as they were when they won the title.

Ray Mercer V Max Baer
Lennox Lewis V Tim Witherspoon
Michael Spinks V Leon Spinks
George Foreman (1973) V Jack Johnson
James J Jeffries V Joe Louis
Primo Carnera V Sonny Liston
Roy Jones, Jr. V Floyd Patterson
John Tate V Wladimir Klitschko
Ingemar Johansson V Corrie Sanders
Rocky Marciano V Joe Frazier
James Douglas V Larry Holmes
Frank Bruno V Gene Tunney
Oliver McCall V Mike Tyson
Ezzard Charles V Jess Willard
Jack Dempsey V Evander Holyfield
Muhammed Ali V James J Braddock

Ray Mercer V Max Baer- could go either way pretty easily. I'll go with Baer by late TKO.
Lennox Lewis V Tim Witherspoon- Lewis by UD
Michael Spinks V Leon Spinks- Spinks by UD

George Foreman (1973) V Jack Johnson- Foreman by KO in 3
James J Jeffries V Joe Louis- Louis by UD
Primo Carnera V Sonny Liston- Liston by KO in 1
Roy Jones, Jr. V Floyd Patterson- Patterson by KO in 11
(Jones wouldn't have a big speed advantage on Patterson. Patterson is the more powerful of the two and his intense agression would present a big problem for Roy)
John Tate V Wladimir Klitschko- Klitschko by KO in 10
(as much as Wlad has had horrible stamina lately, a few years back he was able to go the distance easily and impressively like he did against Byrd and could score later-round KO's against major opponents like McCline)
Ingemar Johansson V Corrie Sanders- Johansson by KO in 3
(Johansson is a very underrated champ IMO)
Rocky Marciano V Joe Frazier- Marciano by TKO in 12-15 or SD
(this would be one of the greatest fights of all time. I think Rocky's stronger chin and better two-fisted power would see him through in the end here)
James Douglas V Larry Holmes- Holmes by KO in 6
(Douglas actually had a pretty weak chin. Tyson just only managed to catch him with one good shot in their entire match)
Frank Bruno V Gene Tunney- Tunney by UD
Oliver McCall V Mike Tyson- Tyson by UD or late stoppage
Ezzard Charles V Jess Willard- Charles by UD
Jack Dempsey V Evander Holyfield- Dempsey by UD or late stoppage
Muhammed Ali V James J Braddock- Ali by TKO in about 12, likely on cuts

Fantasy fights ROUND TWO!

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