knockout
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by knockout » 22 Sep 2004, 10:02
I thought the WBC didnt allow you to hold its belt and the WBO belt???
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REAL_DEAL
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by REAL_DEAL » 22 Sep 2004, 10:04
knockout wrote: I thought the WBC didnt allow you to hold its belt and the WBO belt???
Hopkins wont keep the belt i dont think. Morales has got rid of the IBF.
BubiScholz
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by BubiScholz » 22 Sep 2004, 11:19
knockout wrote: I thought the WBC didnt allow you to hold its belt and the WBO belt???
i´ve heard that in another case. but we´ll see how much belts he keeps and defends i his last fight(s) in middle
BubiScholz
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by BubiScholz » 22 Sep 2004, 11:19
knockout wrote: I thought the WBC didnt allow you to hold its belt and the WBO belt???
i´ve heard that in another case. but we´ll see how much belts he keeps and defends in his last fight(s) in middle
REAL_DEAL
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by REAL_DEAL » 22 Sep 2004, 11:41
Trouble with lotso f belts all the ABC companys tell you to defend against this guy all at the same time. this happened with DM after he beat Hill.
Chris the fighter
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by Chris the fighter » 22 Sep 2004, 11:48
Ricardo Lopez beat Alex Sanchez for the WBC/WBO belts but I think that the Wbc told him he could not have both so as a long time WBC champ he kept that belt but I don't think it applies now. Jose and Paco have kissed and made up I think.
I give Hopkins loads of credit for holding all 4 major belts he kept hold of 3 since 2001 so i hope he keeps all four for his 20th defense.
knockout
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by knockout » 22 Sep 2004, 11:55
if the governing bodies get a sniff of tito v hopkins going ahead they WILL NOT strip him.
They know that the fight will generate more money that any other!!!
How much do governing bodies deduct from a purse generally???
2%??? x 4 equals 8%!!! nearly as much as a trainer gets
jamesmcdonnell
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by jamesmcdonnell » 22 Sep 2004, 11:58
They will only get the money for their belt. Sanctioning fees are something which has remained a mystery to me, it all seems to be hidden in shade.
knockout
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by knockout » 22 Sep 2004, 12:00
jamesmcdonnell wrote: They will only get the money for their belt. Sanctioning fees are something which has remained a mystery to me, it all seems to be hidden in shade.
so if Hopkins is smart he defends one at a time thus only paying one sanctioning fee???
DavidPayne
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by DavidPayne » 22 Sep 2004, 12:01
2% x 4
is the same as
8% of one
if the four purses are equal.
knockout
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by knockout » 22 Sep 2004, 12:05
DavidPayne wrote: 2% x 4
is the same as
8% of one
if the four purses are equal.
yes but 8% x 4 is considerably more!!!! ie four defences defending each belt each time....
found this quote from Lewis V Holy 2
"While the IBF will accept $300,000, Lee said the actual sanctioning fee was $450,000, three per cent of Lewis's $15-million purse. "
Manos de Oro
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by Manos de Oro » 22 Sep 2004, 12:27
I had a nightmare last night that Hopkins dumped his big 3 to hold the WBO. The horror.... The horror....
Eric the Viking
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by Eric the Viking » 22 Sep 2004, 16:31
Manos de Oro wrote: I had a nightmare last night that Hopkins dumped his big 3 to hold the WBO. The horror.... The horror....
In other words, he sold out and signed with either Kohl or Warren? ;)
Jedi Knight
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by Jedi Knight » 22 Sep 2004, 16:39
Same thing happened with Hamed when he beat Soto. For a short time he was WBC/WBO champ but WBC made him choose which title to keep.
He vacated the WBC out of loyalty to the WBO...
paulyb
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by paulyb » 23 Sep 2004, 09:18
According to the new recently released WBO rankings Oscar De La Hoya is still the champion.
stujones
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by stujones » 25 Sep 2004, 08:14
paulyb wrote: According to the new recently released WBO rankings Oscar De La Hoya is still the champion.
Thats what happend to Barrera after he lost his first encounter with Morales. Morales held it for about 24 hours so this could be the case.