Hey I enjoy watching am boxing alot (more than pro even)
I'm also looking to be fighting in the AMs myself sooner or later.
Which are some good boxers (past or present) to study? Please also describe their style and what parcticular thing they master so well.
About me:
18 yo, 5'9, 125lbs, I like to box on the outside but I can't deal with pressure well.
A few boxers that caught my attention already:
Alberto Selimov - movement, punching on the backfoot
Vasyl Lomachenko - offense, footwork while going forward
Teofilo Stevenson - textbook
Kostya Tszyu - range, slipping
Mark Breland - amazing
Thanks in advance!
Best AM boxers to study?
Re: Best AM boxers to study?
It is way too broad of a question. There are too many great amateurs to list them all. It all depends on what you want. If you are looking for someone to emulate, then we would need to know your strengths and weaknesses. Since you haven't even started boxing yet, I would say watch them all and learn, but don't try to duplicate any one style right away. Stick to the basics and learn the proper stance, balance, footwork, hand position, punching technique, blocking/parrying, slipping, countering, feinting, etc. Don't try to be a Pernell Whitaker if you don't have great agility, don't try to be a Floyd Mayweather Jr. or Andre Dirrell if you don't have lightning fast hand speed. You might want to be like Mike, but if you don't have a 36"+ vertical, forget about it! George Foreman won a gold medal, but if you don't hit like a freight train, don't even bother trying to impersonate Big George.
Re: Best AM boxers to study?
I have already described my general style so why are you even assuming this? I've been boxing for a year now and must have sparred over 500 rounds.Dennis wrote:It is way too broad of a question. There are too many great amateurs to
list them all. It all depends on what you want. If you are looking for
someone to emulate, then we would need to know your strengths and
weaknesses. Since you haven't even started boxing yet, I would say
watch them all and learn, but don't try to duplicate any one style
right away. Stick to the basics and learn the proper stance, balance,
footwork, hand position, punching technique, blocking/parrying,
slipping, countering, feinting, etc. Don't try to be a Pernell Whitaker
if you don't have great agility, don't try to be a Floyd Mayweather Jr.
or Andre Dirrell if you don't have lightning fast hand speed. You might
want to be like Mike, but if you don't have a 36"+ vertical, forget
about it! George Foreman won a gold medal, but if you don't hit like a
freight train, don't even bother trying to impersonate Big George.
But I'll try to describe my strengths and weaknesses more into detail now:
I'm 5'9 and weigh 125, my trainers and sparring partners tell me I have alot of power. I CAN punch with decent speed aswell but the problem is, that when I focus on speed, I barely have any power. I have a stiff jab, which is my only punch that I can throw both fast and hard at the same time. My powerpunch is my straight right. I use my my left hook mainly while pivoting to the left and while moving backwards.
I'm bad at combinationpunching. My footwork-combinationpunching coordination doesn't seem right. I also can't deal with pressure well. I do have a good guard but when my opponent rushes forward throwing alot of combinations, I choke up and just stand there blocking. What I SHOULD do is evade punches and counterpunch. I can only counterpunch when my opponent throws 1-2 punches at the time. I noticed I can evade punches alot better with my hands low (especially my left) but since I'm still at this early stage my trainers insist that I keep my hands up.
I like to come forward in sparring because then I can be more relaxed and set my own pace. When backward I get this problem of being pressured by combinationpunchers.
Since I'm tall for my weight, my trainers want to box on the outside when possible. My boxing on the inside isn't that bad though.
So anyway; I'm not looking to emulate a boxer, I just want to learn their strengths. So what I'm looking for in amateur boxes to study:
- they need to box mainly on the outside
- they need to be good at combinationpunching
- they need to be good at dealing with pressure; not just choking up and blocking everything.
- they need to be good at finding the right range: always close enough while attacking and just far away enough while defending (like Kostya Tszyu!)
- I prefer them to be orthodox but I don't mind learning from southpaws
- I prefer them to be the agressors but I don't mind learning from boxers who fight on the backfoot.
I hope this has helped to slim down the broadness of the first question a bit :)
Help would be greatly appreciated ofcourse!
Thanks in advance.
Re: Best AM boxers to study?
Mark Breland definitely comes to mind. Tyrell Biggs was a very good am. Sugar Ray Leonard threw a lot of combos and was great at moving and punching. Pernell Whitaker was a great counter-puncher and slipped very well. I didn't like that he slipped with his hands down, but he was quick enough to get away with it. Evander Holyfield was a busy boxer in the amateurs and threw good combos.
Re: Best AM boxers to study?
Chris Byrd - great defensive boxer and he could deal with a guy throwing a lot of punches at him. He doesn't fit your come forward style, but good to watch to see how to block and slip everything.
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Re: Best AM boxers to study?
I'd say you watch Istvan Kovacs at the 1996 Olympics. Technically brilliant amateur boxer, great to learn from.
Re: Best AM boxers to study?
Thanks, Kovacs indeed looks like a textbook fighter. The same stance I use, stand up high with lead hand out a bit. I guess that's typical for European amateurs.
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