Junior Witter/Devon Alexander

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Re: Junior Witter/Devon Alexander

Post by DG. »

Dioufy wrote:Southpaw, Jan Bergman or Jon Thaxton and Eamonn Magee?
Switch Hitter - Witter!

Switch hitter means he can fight orthodox and southpaw.

Game over, fat boy ran and the day he stops running he gets stretched.....again.


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Re: Junior Witter/Devon Alexander

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opticald wrote:Couple that with Tszyu coming off a career threatening injury, being 36 and having 3 rounds in 2 years and then going in against someone like Witter, it wouldn't have been the easiest job. It is a hard one to predict.
a hard one to predict. :D

that's what i love about this place.

always guaranteed a laugh. :lol:

tszyu could come out of retirement right now and line up witter all night long. :roll:

as if witter's gonna tuck up and take it to tszyu in the way hatton did. :o

get outta town. :oops:
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Re: Junior Witter/Devon Alexander

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Even the Zoo that turned up for Hatton fight would do what he did to Judah to Witter, IMO. But perhaps have taken him a few rounds more.

Zoo KO5

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Re: Junior Witter/Devon Alexander

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what if what if what if

who would have put money up to bring tszyu over to fight witter? who could do that AND make money on the fight?

tszyu was a showtime fighter and showtime hated witter, so the TV money wouldn't be there, so tszyu wouldn't be there. tszyu at the doncaster dome! methinks not - he wouldn't come anywhere near is kebab eating, cellar-dwelling subnormals.

and if tszyu was ready to cash out, why would he even consider fighting witter - anywhere? what exactly is the gain from fighting an awkward guy that doesn't please crowds?

come on, what's the point of this. hatton hugged the fight out of tszyu, wore an old man out in a bout that was officiated like something out of the Wild West. It was a great win for Wicky, but as said above, he was allowed to get away with things. - kostya got greedy and went into the lion's den of a young uptart: like many fighters he went to britain not knowing what he'd got himself in for...even a tszyu who was dropped by emmanuel burton in sparring and had knee problems would have too much precision for wonky witter.
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Re: Junior Witter/Devon Alexander

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Dioufy wrote:Even the Zoo that turned up for Hatton fight would do what he did to Judah to Witter, IMO. But perhaps have taken him a few rounds more.

Zoo KO5

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An old inactive 3 rounds in 2 years KT would not have got near Witter without getting stretched - Zab was doing a niice job on him until the Judah 'lose concentration' thing kicked in.

Pullnig straight back, what dod Zab expect?

Either way. HATTON ducked WITTER.


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Brilliant entertainment this!!

Listen, Hatton should have fought Witter regardless of the 'risk-reward' ratio etc etc.

If he fought Vilches etc etc then he should have fought Witter.

However, he didnt and should not get a slagging for not doing so as his resume is so much better than Junior's is and Hatton has proven himself at top world level for a number of years.

Its only when he went into the ELITE level he was beaten.

Hatton for me now could still beat Khan, Bradley, Maidana, Alexander and anyone else at that level.

Pacquaio, Cotto, Mosley, Floyd etc etc etc - forget about it.

But thats hardly a crime is it these guys are ELITE level fighters.

Ricky has done nothing to deserve the slagging off he gets on here and lets be honest has never quit in a fight because 'his elbow hurt' has he??

For the record Hatton beats any version of Witter every day of the week - end of story.

Emerz - please lock this thread

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Re: Junior Witter/Devon Alexander

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Wrists wrote:Brilliant entertainment this!!

Listen, Hatton should have fought Witter regardless of the 'risk-reward' ratio etc etc.

If he fought Vilches etc etc then he should have fought Witter.

However, he didnt and should not get a slagging for not doing so as his resume is so much better than Junior's is and Hatton has proven himself at top world level for a number of years.

Its only when he went into the ELITE level he was beaten.

Hatton for me now could still beat Khan, Bradley, Maidana, Alexander and anyone else at that level.

Pacquaio, Cotto, Mosley, Floyd etc etc etc - forget about it.

But thats hardly a crime is it these guys are ELITE level fighters.

Ricky has done nothing to deserve the slagging off he gets on here and lets be honest has never quit in a fight because 'his elbow hurt' has he??

For the record Hatton beats any version of Witter every day of the week - end of story.

Emerz - please lock this thread

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Spot on old bean :TU: :TU: :TU:
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Wrists wrote:

However, he didnt and should not get a slagging for not doing so as his resume is so much better than Junior's is and Hatton has proven himself at top world level for a number of years.

Its only when he went into the ELITE level he was beaten.

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Hatton is overrated and frankly....not that good.

Sang in a SugarHill Gang stylee!

'So he went to the elite?'

Means nothing if you can't compete and the crowd get to stare at the soles of your feet.

Now don't get me worng - the boy likes a pie but to say he would beat Witter is an outright lie.

Now no need to fret and no need to bet at elite level Hatton would always get stretched!

Sing it Boxrec...

There only one Wricky Hatton!


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Re: Junior Witter/Devon Alexander

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DG. wrote:
Dioufy wrote:Even the Zoo that turned up for Hatton fight would do what he did to Judah to Witter, IMO. But perhaps have taken him a few rounds more.

Zoo KO5

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An old inactive 3 rounds in 2 years KT would not have got near Witter without getting stretched - Zab was doing a niice job on him until the Judah 'lose concentration' thing kicked in.

Pullnig straight back, what dod Zab expect?

Either way. HATTON ducked WITTER.


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zab judah won the first no doubt, but tszyu started to come on and catch judah towards the end of the round, he then went on to command the 2nd, all before kostya levelled zab at the end of the round. where abouts do you think judahs " loss of concentration " kicked in and cost him the fight?
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Re: Junior Witter/Devon Alexander

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DG mate as much as I want to think your a tit I can't - you just amuse me

This forum would be a lot duller if you were not around

:lol:


PS. However, you still talk out of your arse

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Re: Junior Witter/Devon Alexander

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Wrists wrote:DG mate as much as I want to think your a tit I can't - you just amuse me

This forum would be a lot duller if you were not around

:lol:


PS. However, you still talk out of your arse

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:lol:

It all in jest - it is a forum - a platform for Da God known as DG to entertain.

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Re: Junior Witter/Devon Alexander

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mike john wrote:
DG. wrote:
Dioufy wrote:Even the Zoo that turned up for Hatton fight would do what he did to Judah to Witter, IMO. But perhaps have taken him a few rounds more.

Zoo KO5

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An old inactive 3 rounds in 2 years KT would not have got near Witter without getting stretched - Zab was doing a niice job on him until the Judah 'lose concentration' thing kicked in.

Pullnig straight back, what dod Zab expect?

Either way. HATTON ducked WITTER.


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zab judah won the first no doubt, but tszyu started to come on and catch judah towards the end of the round, he then went on to command the 2nd, all before kostya levelled zab at the end of the round. where abouts do you think judahs " loss of concentration " kicked in and cost him the fight?


Pulling straight back cardinal sin - especially when the guy is closing you down.

Zab shook up KT pretty bad in round 1.
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[/quote]Pulling straight back cardinal sin - especially when the guy is closing you down.

Zab shook up KT pretty bad in round 1.[/quote]

at the risk of splitting hairs, it was tszyu that took zab out of his game, if judah lost thanks in part to inherant flaws, it was because kostya forced those mistakes out. tszyu wasnt succeeding because of judahs weakness, judah was faltering because of tszyus strengths. dig?
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Wrists wrote: Hatton for me now could still beat Khan, Bradley, Maidana, Alexander and anyone else at that level.


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Not a hope imo.
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Re: Junior Witter/Devon Alexander

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opticald wrote:
Wrists wrote: Hatton for me now could still beat Khan, Bradley, Maidana, Alexander and anyone else at that level.


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Not a hope imo.
I think Wrists has been on the Crystal Meth again.

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Wrists, it doesn't matter if Hatton beats Alexander, Bradley, Maidana, ect, ect, because some people would find ways of putting them down. To me, Urango was a decent opponent - he had never been beat, could punch and was a world champion. And look what he has done since. Vilches wasn't great but he emphatically knocked him out (it was one of the KO's of last year) and he easily beat Ngoudjo, who did beat Malignaggi, another world champion. Isn't he still a world champion at 140lbs, despite losing to Berto?

Hatton wasn't at his best that night but managed to win every round. If a poor Witter turned up against Urango then it could've gone either way. People who think Junior was ever world class need their heads checking, IMO. Fringe world class, at very best.

Good initial post by the way.

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mike john wrote:
Pulling straight back cardinal sin - especially when the guy is closing you down.

Zab shook up KT pretty bad in round 1.[/quote]

at the risk of splitting hairs, it was tszyu that took zab out of his game, if judah lost thanks in part to inherant flaws, it was because kostya forced those mistakes out. tszyu wasnt succeeding because of judahs weakness, judah was faltering because of tszyus strengths. dig?[/quote]

Tyszu didnt pull him out of his game he punnished a big mistake, there's a difference. Witter was/is defensively better than Judah and wouldnt make that mistake, Judah himself sharpened up defensively after that. Ya Dig
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Dioufy wrote:Wrists, it doesn't matter if Hatton beats Alexander, Bradley, Maidana, ect, ect, because some people would find ways of putting them down. To me, Urango was a decent opponent - he had never been beat, could punch and was a world champion. And look what he has done since. Vilches wasn't great but he emphatically knocked him out (it was one of the KO's of last year) and he easily beat Ngoudjo, who did beat Malignaggi, another world champion. Isn't he still a world champion at 140lbs, despite losing to Berto?

Hatton wasn't at his best that night but managed to win every round. If a poor Witter turned up against Urango then it could've gone either way. People who think Junior was ever world class need their heads checking, IMO. Fringe world class, at very best.

Good initial post by the way.

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I always said Urango was 1 of Hattons best wins, but he is slow as molasses and Berto who isn't very impressive dominated Urango recently too. Witter would have beat Urango easily too, just too much speed.

If people don't think Witter is world class then they need to admit Hatton's opposition is a level below world class, minus Tyszu who had fought 3 rounds in 3years
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Dioufy wrote: Wrists, it doesn't matter if Hatton beats Alexander, Bradley, Maidana, ect, ect, because some people would find ways of putting them down.

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Ben Rabah was ROBBED of the belt against Urango and Hatton hugged his wahy through.

Mills Lane would have thrown Hatton out!

Men settle their arguments in the ring.

Who can forget Hattons little girl rant re Witter excuse number 7

'he said nasty fings about me - I am not fighting him - I will punish him by not fighting him'

PBF calls Hatton much worse and Hatton wants to fight him 'because that's what Wricvky Hatton is all about - I don't duck nobody'

That boy should be a comedian, wait a minute?

Diousy, take your head out of Hattons lap, the boy is a walking contradiction.

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DG. wrote: An old inactive 3 rounds in 2 years KT would not have got near Witter without getting stretched
:lol: :lol: :lol: DG you do post some nonsense at times.
Oh, and I love the concept of fighter A doing a number on fighter B based on about two minutes of the first round. It's so, so clear to the unbiased observer that KT was just measuring him up for the right hand and timing him... started clicking towards the end of round one and then lights off in round two.
There are so many examples of fights where one fighter bides his time and let's his opponent do his thing.... and then lowers the boom - I suppose by your logic you think that pretty much all of Arthur Abraham's opponents have been 'doing a number' on him until they all lost concentration.... :lol:
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DG. wrote:
opticald wrote:
Wrists wrote: Hatton for me now could still beat Khan, Bradley, Maidana, Alexander and anyone else at that level.


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Not a hope imo.
I think Wrists has been on the Crystal Meth again.

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I don't think Hatton should - or indeed will unless money really is his God - fight again. If he did, I'd fancy most if not all of those you listed to beat him.

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Re: Junior Witter/Devon Alexander

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Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Witter would have beat Urango easily too, just too much speed.
I agree, but my point is, when Witter has a bad day he gets beat. If the negative as hell Witter who fought Judah, or the completely inept Witter who fought against Bradley and Alexander would've fought Urango the he'd have been knocked spark out by Urango, IMO.

That's one of the redeeming differences between Hatton and Witter. If Hatton's in massive trouble, he digs in, but if Witter doesn't have it his own way and his pot-shotting isn't working then he loses interest and rolls to a clear loss or quits with 'elbow injury.'
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Re: Junior Witter/Devon Alexander

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Ian - just out of interest what would you base 'most, if not all would beat Hatton'.

I ask because only 2 fights ago against Malignaggi, Hatton looked very good.

Suddenly after getting knocked out (very early) against the best fighter in the world he would all of a sudden lose to all of these fighters like Khan etc etc???

I agree maybe he should not fight again but I for one am interested to see what he has left.

For me:

Khan - W KO 8
Bradley - W SD
Alexander - W UD, come on Witter made him look better than he is
Maidana - W KO 6 in a war

I could be wrong but its wrong to write off Hatton just yet although the days of fighting the very very best are over

PS. Long hard season for both teams me thinks McNeilly

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Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
I personally think Witter and Hatton were around the same level.

And Shaka you're a Hatton nutthugger and full of poop, Maussa was always a joke, its just Harris messed up against him. Harris beats him 99 out of 100 times
Like i said....the full fight between Maussa/Harris is available on youtube. Watch it and you'll see Maussa control the fight from start to finish. He was even finding time to take the p*ss out of Harris in there at times. The man was having fun at the same time as kicking crap out of Harris. How you can come to the conclusion that Harris would have beaten Maussa 99/100 after watching that i do not know.

Maussa wasn't a joke, he was a wild and dangerous puncher and he was a dirty beggar aswell. Although his style was far from textbook, it was effective. He gave Cotto a decent tussle, being stopped on his feet on a cut. He was far from a joke. Funny how Harris NEVER showed the remotest bit of interest in a rematch with Carlos to clear his record up.

I'm full of sh*t and yet you are the fella peddling nonsense about Harris beating Maussa 99 times out of 100...this despite Carlos spanking Vivian like he was his father, maybe watch that fight again and get a clue mate :roll:
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lurkyshaka wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
I personally think Witter and Hatton were around the same level.

And Shaka you're a Hatton nutthugger and full of poop, Maussa was always a joke, its just Harris messed up against him. Harris beats him 99 out of 100 times
Like i said....the full fight between Maussa/Harris is available on youtube. Watch it and you'll see Maussa control the fight from start to finish. He was even finding time to take the p*ss out of Harris in there at times. The man was having fun at the same time as kicking crap out of Harris. How you can come to the conclusion that Harris would have beaten Maussa 99/100 after watching that i do not know.

Maussa wasn't a joke, he was a wild and dangerous puncher and he was a dirty beggar aswell. Although his style was far from textbook, it was effective. He gave Cotto a decent tussle, being stopped on his feet on a cut. He was far from a joke. Funny how Harris NEVER showed the remotest bit of interest in a rematch with Carlos to clear his record up.

I'm full of sh*t and yet you are the fella peddling nonsense about Harris beating Maussa 99 times out of 100...this despite Carlos spanking Vivian like he was his father, maybe watch that fight again and get a clue mate :roll:
What Harris fights have you seen other than the Maussa fight, (which he weighed in at 134 pounds for)?
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