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klithko's claim haye is scared or is it the other way round?

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Most people think that David haye is scared of the klitchko's but i disagree! alot of people think he faked that injury..when a medical report proved he had an injury..the contract was if he beat vladimir then he would have to rematch him..this is a decent cotract but unfrotunately haye got injured..but the vitali contract was diabolical! if haye were to beat vitali then he would have to rematch him again in germany then if he won that he would have had to fight vladimir in germany!! this is shocking! why don't the klitchko's give these sort of contracts to chris arreola? chagaev? it's blatent they think haye is a threat to them! atleast if haye win's the wba title then he won't have to have these rematch clauses..because the klitchko's have stated the wba title is a title they need to have all the belts in the family and it is extremely important to them..the fan's will demand a fight between haye and the klitchko's even tho the klitchko's have said they will not fight haye now..haye is being very smart. go on david!!
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Both of the brothers were going to fight Haye with dates set and both times Haye pulled out. To me the that seems like if anyone was afraid it was Haye. If they were so afraid of him they just would have avoided him altogether. I think the contract was in a large part due to the disrespect he showed them. Chagaev, Arreola, or any opponent they have been ready to fight never talked as much trash or wore a shirt with their decapitated head on it.
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Haye way too dangerous for them, do you think they ( Klitschko Sisters :lol: as Haye calls them) would have asked for such options on the other challengers to their titles?

Amy say

'No No No'!

Haye did not do himself any favours though.

He should ko notValuezformoney then he can get an equal say at the negotiating table!


:DDD
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DG. wrote: Amy say

'No No No'!
The return of Amy :TU:

Anyway, who knows what contracts Arreola and Chambers have signed?

Of course Haye is a threat to the Klits but more importantly if he wins convincingly against Andre the giant then he is by far the biggest money spinner out there for the brothers, unless they ever decide to go for a bit of klit on klit action ;;-)

It will happen if Haye wins and at least one of the brothers wins
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doctorboxing wrote:
DG. wrote: Amy say

'No No No'!
The return of Amy :TU:

Anyway, who knows what contracts Arreola and Chambers have signed?

Of course Haye is a threat to the Klits but more importantly if he wins convincingly against Andre the giant then he is by far the biggest money spinner out there for the brothers, unless they ever decide to go for a bit of klit on klit action ;;-)

It will happen if Haye wins and at least one of the brothers wins
There is a bit of Amy in all of us, or is that the other way round?


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If the Klitschkos are afraid of Haye then why did they both sign to fight him when they didn't have to?
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Horse wrote:If the Klitschkos are afraid of Haye then why did they both sign to fight him when they didn't have to?
hmm, indeed. on one hand we have two fighters who have about 18 or however many championship wins at heavyweight

on the other, we have a man who beat Monty barrett. i know who i suspect would have been doing the ducking if any ducking was being done.
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All this 'he say she say' shit is boring. It has to b e said that it seems only haye can back out of two fights after talking so much smack and still have 'kool aid sippers' defending his every move

Let them all get there fights out of the way and in 2009 Haye should square off and hope his back holds out this time
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Haye is terrified of them, you can tell.

Not that I blame him, I think anyone with an ounce of sense would be scared of fighting a couple of Ukrainian meatheads.
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crusader wrote:Both of the brothers were going to fight Haye with dates set and both times Haye pulled out. To me the that seems like if anyone was afraid it was Haye. If they were so afraid of him they just would have avoided him altogether. I think the contract was in a large part due to the disrespect he showed them. Chagaev, Arreola, or any opponent they have been ready to fight never talked as much trash or wore a shirt with their decapitated head on it.
The dates may have been set & scheduled, but some of the conditions the Klitscho's had put in the fight contract's leave a lot to be desired & leave me wondering who does actually want the fight & who does not?
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gemmell wrote:Most people think that David haye is scared of the klitchko's but i disagree! alot of people think he faked that injury..when a medical report proved he had an injury..the contract was if he beat vladimir then he would have to rematch him..this is a decent cotract but unfrotunately haye got injured..but the vitali contract was diabolical! if haye were to beat vitali then he would have to rematch him again in germany then if he won that he would have had to fight vladimir in germany!! this is shocking! why don't the klitchko's give these sort of contracts to chris arreola? chagaev? it's blatent they think haye is a threat to them! atleast if haye win's the wba title then he won't have to have these rematch clauses..because the klitchko's have stated the wba title is a title they need to have all the belts in the family and it is extremely important to them..the fan's will demand a fight between haye and the klitchko's even tho the klitchko's have said they will not fight haye now..haye is being very smart. go on david!!

Why wouldn't Haye want to beat Vitali again in germany since, according to him, it would be an easy KO on the robot? Then why WOULDN'T he want to UNIFY the titles with Wlad?

I liked Haye and his attitude up til that point but now he's fighting a guy who everybody knows LOST to 50 year old Holyfield. For that reason, I want to see him KOd, although he'll probably beat Valuev. I would have cheered him on against Vitali or Wlad, but I just couldn't do that now after his conduct.
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Rocky Balboa wrote:
crusader wrote:Both of the brothers were going to fight Haye with dates set and both times Haye pulled out. To me the that seems like if anyone was afraid it was Haye. If they were so afraid of him they just would have avoided him altogether. I think the contract was in a large part due to the disrespect he showed them. Chagaev, Arreola, or any opponent they have been ready to fight never talked as much trash or wore a shirt with their decapitated head on it.
The dates may have been set & scheduled, but some of the conditions the Klitscho's had put in the fight contract's leave a lot to be desired & leave me wondering who does actually want the fight & who does not?
If the Klitshkos didn't want to fight Haye why would they have even bothered in the first place? They had no obligation to fight him, yet they went ahead with it anyways, and a week from fight time Wlad was ready to step in the ring and get it on. To me someone who is scared doesn't give their opponent a voluntary title shot and come ready to fight. Talking trash for months than pulling out on both occasions against two opponents who you claim are sisters that you are going to knock out seems more like fear. It ludicrous that the Klitschkos are being accused of being scared when they were ready to fight and Haye went running.

He had an oppurtunity to beat the two biggest names in the division back to back and he decided it wasn't for him, instead he would rather take on the talent less Valuev.
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crusader wrote:He had an oppurtunity to beat the two biggest names in the division back to back and he decided it wasn't for him, instead he would rather take on the talent less Valuev.
Valuev is one of the best Heavyweights out there. He is ranked in the top 4 in the division and is the WBA champion.

I don't think Valuev would have taken the Haye fight if he thought he was likely to lose. Valuev is no push over and he has a very good chance of beating Haye. If Haye beats Valuev then he deserves respect and his win should not be dismissed.
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couldnt be arsed to read the whole thread after the first sentence i knew it was aload of shite.klitschko who was beating lennox lewis & wanted the return behave!!!klitschko chased that fight also!!!
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Horse wrote:
crusader wrote:He had an oppurtunity to beat the two biggest names in the division back to back and he decided it wasn't for him, instead he would rather take on the talent less Valuev.
Valuev is one of the best Heavyweights out there. He is ranked in the top 4 in the division and is the WBA champion.

I don't think Valuev would have taken the Haye fight if he thought he was likely to lose. Valuev is no push over and he has a very good chance of beating Haye. If Haye beats Valuev then he deserves respect and his win should not be dismissed.
Valuev is a clear level below the Klitschko brothers, and presents a much more winnable fight for any opponent. It was a big step down in opposition after having two fights scheduled with Wlad and Vitali.
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crusader wrote:Valuev is a clear level below the Klitschko brothers, and presents a much more winnable fight for any opponent.
I agree with that, but it would still be a very good win for Haye.
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Horse wrote:
crusader wrote:Valuev is a clear level below the Klitschko brothers, and presents a much more winnable fight for any opponent.
I agree with that, but it would still be a very good win for Haye.
Not denying that, but pulling out of two fights with the best fighters in the division to take on a lesser opponent seems more like the attitude of a scared man than showing up ready to fight, like Wlad did.
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Horse wrote:
crusader wrote:Valuev is a clear level below the Klitschko brothers, and presents a much more winnable fight for any opponent.
I agree with that, but it would still be a very good win for Haye.
You seem to have difficulty understanding the topic at hand.
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opticald wrote:You seem to have difficulty understanding the topic at hand.
I don't think that I do actually, opticald.
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crusader wrote:Not denying that, but pulling out of two fights with the best fighters in the division to take on a lesser opponent seems more like the attitude of a scared man than showing up ready to fight, like Wlad did.
I only disagreed with the part of your post that suggested that Valuev was talentless, I agreed with the rest of it. I probably should have stated that earlier.
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of course he is scared of wlad an vitali, if he fought them an lost, were does he go. an i am sure the sparing he is doing at heavyweight is having him wonder how good of a punch he could take from either of these guys,,,i got a feeling that valuev is going to stop hayes, just for the reason of hayes chin sucks an valueve is iron
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Here's an out there suggestion. How about none of them are scared and financial troubles of a tv station and injuries are the reason the fights haven't gone ahead.
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Matchfixer wrote:Here's an out there suggestion. How about none of them are scared and financial troubles of a tv station and injuries are the reason the fights haven't gone ahead.
No, it has got to be fear.
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Horse wrote:
Matchfixer wrote:Here's an out there suggestion. How about none of them are scared and financial troubles of a tv station and injuries are the reason the fights haven't gone ahead.
No, it has got to be fear.
LOL! The idea is ridiculous. I'm embarrassed for all the people who have suggested and/or agreed with it.

It seems everyone has forgotten that Haye has taken risky fights throughout his career.
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