Bower Brothers Convicted

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 15 Oct 2004, 14:57

I hear that the Bower brothers of the Peacock gym were today convicted of theft.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/lond ... 20Standard

Kev

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 17 Oct 2004, 18:36

The Bowers boys looked after me very well when i moved to london..... real nice guys.

The sentences they got were ridiculous, Tony got 12 years.... 12 years for robbery, no guns, no one hurt and 12 fornicating years....

You can kill someone and get less.

Martin got 7 years..... again a huge sentence in my opinion

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 17 Oct 2004, 18:39

knockout wrote:You can kill someone and get less.

How very true, my uncle was mudered (first degree) Judge sentenced him for life (with no chance of appeal). The killers family wrote to the last conservative Home Secretary citing that he had two young boys and the home secretary made sure the sentence was reduced. He was out after 6.

chris s · Post by **chris s** » 18 Oct 2004, 08:00

I know Martin very well and what a nice fella. Lets hope he get out soon.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 18 Oct 2004, 08:24

Why on earth did they do it?

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 18 Oct 2004, 08:27

The owners of a world- famous boxing gym planned a £1.1million raid on Gatwick airport to keep the doors of their community sports centre open, Southwark Crown Court was told

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 18 Oct 2004, 08:50

So does this mean the Peacock will close?

Hardhitters11 · Post by **Hardhitters11** » 18 Oct 2004, 09:10

Although the sentences are harsh I always believe:

Dont do the crime if you dont want the time!!

I do think its ridiculous that people get longer for robbery than murder!!

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 18 Oct 2004, 09:11

I dont think the gym will close...
The boys have been inside for 18months already... judge wouldnt give then bail... not even for their grandmothers funeral...

In the interim Roy Hilder has been looking after things and doing some work with Mark Roe (AMPRO) amongst others

coneye · Post by **coneye** » 18 Oct 2004, 09:19

Lets not kid ourselves, in this day and age where long sentences don't seem to happen has much has they should. If you get that sort of sentence , you can guarantee theres stuff been said in court thats not public.

In other words to get that sort of sentence you have to be a pretty mean sort of character.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 18 Oct 2004, 09:30

coneye wrote:Lets not kid ourselves, in this day and age where long sentences don't seem to happen has much has they should. If you get that sort of sentence , you can guarantee theres stuff been said in court thats not public.

In other words to get that sort of sentence you have to be a pretty mean sort of character.

the press were in court and had freedom to write what they wanted so the public know exactly what was said in court.

SO what we can assume is that the judge decided that they were "pretty mean characters" without much evidence to do so

JimStone · Post by **JimStone** » 18 Oct 2004, 11:32

C'mon lads, you're not daft. HH is right when he says "If you can't do the time....", and I'm sure the Bowers bros agree. They knew what they were getting into and they knew what would happen if they got caught and convicted. They took a risk and it didn't pay off, shame for them, but such is life.

Sentencing is very simple, it only seems harsh to those who don't understand this simple theory:

If you knew you'd only get 2 years for attempting to steal - or actually stealing - 1 million quid from HSBC, would you be tempted to have a go?

Answer: YES

If you knew you'd only get 2 years for raping a 3 year old, would you be tempted to have a go?

Answer: NO (I hope)

Financially motivated crimes need a serious deterrent, otherwise everyone would be at it. Noncey stuff will happen regardless because the people are born twisted. Understand?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 18 Oct 2004, 11:39

Yep, possession is 9 tenth's of the law. As some famous geezer once said.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 18 Oct 2004, 11:41

FG: true true....essentially money is more important than human life.