Should the Board mandate a Fury-McDermott rematch?

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 12 Sep 2009, 06:05

Even if you are one of the minority who thought Fury won...what do you think?

Let's see if we can get a lot of people voting on this thread.

el_grande_mauro_mina · Post by **el_grande_mauro_mina** » 12 Sep 2009, 06:10

Nah mate - they will rip off McDermott again and again - and Fury doesn't have what it takes to beat
McDermott anytime soon anyway.

Big John would have to knock him out to 'win'

The question is - should the board mandate the revoking of the licence of Terry O'Connor - I thought we got rid of the main idiot when Paul Thomas retired.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 12 Sep 2009, 06:13

Carlos-Wigan wrote:Nah mate - they will rip off McDermott again and again - and Fury doesn't have what it takes to beat
McDermott anytime soon anyway.

Big John would have to knock him out to 'win'

The question is - should the board mandate the revoking of the licence of Terry O'Connor - I thought we got rid of the main idiot when Paul Thomas retired.

There's always one...

Just let Richie or Howard ref it. Or have three judges and start as they mean to go on.

The Commonwealth Board did exactly the right thing with Sexton-Rogan so hopefully (especially if we get plenty of people voting on here), the BBBoC will do so too.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 12 Sep 2009, 06:16

Blimey, two...obviously there'll be more.

I sort of understand Carlos' twisted logic but even those on here who thought Fury won seem to think he did so very narrowly and that a rematch wouldn't be out of order.

I can only think those who don't want a rematch either know very little about boxing, are trolls or are huge Fury fans who don't want to fight McD again (understandable).

el_grande_mauro_mina · Post by **el_grande_mauro_mina** » 12 Sep 2009, 06:18

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
Carlos-Wigan wrote:Nah mate - they will rip off McDermott again and again - and Fury doesn't have what it takes to beat
McDermott anytime soon anyway.

Big John would have to knock him out to 'win'

The question is - should the board mandate the revoking of the licence of Terry O'Connor - I thought we got rid of the main idiot when Paul Thomas retired.
There's always one...

Just let Richie or Howard ref it. Or have three judges and start as they mean to go on.

The Commonwealth Board did exactly the right thing with Sexton-Rogan so hopefully (especially if we get plenty of people voting on here), the BBBoC will do so too.

I don't know if you remember the Johnny Armour vs Francis Ampofo fights where Ampofo was ripped off three times on the bounce. There are obvious shenanigans going on behind the Fury 98-92 descion and how deep does the corruption run?

I personally don't see why McDermott should gift Fury another win - thats what would happen. I just hope McDermott gets to top the bill in a few bouts against decent American opposition and then aim for a British title shot (when the title becomes vacant)

Chris W 1982 · Post by **Chris W 1982** » 12 Sep 2009, 06:22

I'm in the minority by thinking Fury won but i would like to see a rematch

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 12 Sep 2009, 06:22

I must be too naive...or maybe I don't want to believe it.

But there's no way McDermott would get anything other than a fair shake from Richie or Howard.

Richie doesn't give a f*ck who you are - small, big, black, white - you get what you get.

Howard is the same. This is the guy who threw out Matthew Hatton in the last round of a British title eliminator against Alan Bosworth when he was miles ahead because he wouldn't behave. The Hattons and their entourage nearly lynched him but he'd do the same again.

The worry I have is that John will, understandably, just assume he's going to get ripped off and will underperform. Presumably Fury's flapping mouth will again give him motivation though.

el_grande_mauro_mina · Post by **el_grande_mauro_mina** » 12 Sep 2009, 06:23

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Blimey, two...obviously there'll be more.

I sort of understand Carlos' twisted logic but even those on here who thought Fury won seem to think he did so very narrowly and that a rematch wouldn't be out of order.

I can only think those who don't want a rematch either know very little about boxing, are trolls or are huge Fury fans who don't want to fight McD again (understandable).

Well, you may not be able to read or comprehend written English but I thought McDermott won that fight handsomely.

I am a big fan of McDermott and I don't see why he should sacrifice another win on the altar of Tyson Fury?

Big John isn't getting a break anytime soon from crappy officials - or do we need a 4th fight on the bounce to prove it.

It all depends on if you have trust in the officials in this country nowadays - I certainly don't.

Evander · Post by **Evander** » 12 Sep 2009, 06:24

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Even if you are one of the minority who thought Fury won...what do you think?

Let's see if we can get a lot of people voting on this thread.

Well Duh Ian.

You never saw it coming.
You are shocked.
Get friggin real .

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 12 Sep 2009, 06:26

Carlos-Wigan wrote:
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Blimey, two...obviously there'll be more.

I sort of understand Carlos' twisted logic but even those on here who thought Fury won seem to think he did so very narrowly and that a rematch wouldn't be out of order.

I can only think those who don't want a rematch either know very little about boxing, are trolls or are huge Fury fans who don't want to fight McD again (understandable).

Well, you may not be able to read or comprehend written English but I thought McDermott won that fight handsomely.

Yes, I'm well aware of that. I do understand your logic but if you ask John, I think he'd risk a rematch.

rf · Post by rf » 12 Sep 2009, 06:26

I'm sure they will order a rematch, its the least they can do.

Evander · Post by **Evander** » 12 Sep 2009, 06:30

Are you trying to make a name for yourself here guy ?

F--- M- are you kidding ?

An unbeaten guy with 7 Wins 7 K0's record and you are saying you are surprised at the result in Essex.

Get the hell out of here

.

Evander · Post by **Evander** » 12 Sep 2009, 06:31

What world are you living in McNeilly ?

rf · Post by rf » 12 Sep 2009, 06:32

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:I must be too naive...or maybe I don't want to believe it.

But there's no way McDermott would get anything other than a fair shake from Richie or Howard.

Richie doesn't give a f*ck who you are - small, big, black, white - you get what you get.

Howard is the same. This is the guy who threw out Matthew Hatton in the last round of a British title eliminator against Alan Bosworth when he was miles ahead because he wouldn't behave. The Hattons and their entourage nearly lynched him but he'd do the same again.

Richie and Howard are good, take no nonesense refs

Evander · Post by **Evander** » 12 Sep 2009, 06:33

John was the winner.
But the way McNeilly is playing it up ... like we are meant to be shocked or something .

Get real.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 12 Sep 2009, 06:33

Evander wrote:Are you trying to make a name for yourself here guy ?

F--- M- are you kidding ?

An unbeaten guy with 7 Wins 7 K0's record and you are saying you are surprised at the result in Essex.

Get the hell out of here .

Are you referring to me?

Yeah, I was surprised. Like I say, I'm probably too naive. Or just like to see the best in people.

Maybe I'm just a sucker.

Evander · Post by **Evander** » 12 Sep 2009, 06:40

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
Evander wrote:Are you trying to make a name for yourself here guy ?

F--- M- are you kidding ?

An unbeaten guy with 7 Wins 7 K0's record and you are saying you are surprised at the result in Essex.

Get the hell out of here .
Are you referring to me?

Yeah, I was surprised. Like I say, I'm probably too naive. Or just like to see the best in people.

Maybe I'm just a sucker.

No offence Ian, you are not a sucker.
You are a good man.
But ... the damage is already done and it's not your fault.

banjo · Post by **banjo** » 12 Sep 2009, 06:43

Evander it's time for your medication again

banjo · Post by **banjo** » 12 Sep 2009, 06:44

Yes there should be a mandated rematch if Fury wants to keep hold of the title.

rf · Post by rf » 12 Sep 2009, 07:12

boxrec wrote:
ender77 wrote:I think the board should manadate a rematch as it was a very competitive fight.

Personally I am one of the few who actually had fury winning, but it was a close fight and I would not have been surprised had mcdermott got the decision.

The commentary team at sky were very biased towards Mcdermott and I think too many viewers are influenced by the comments made by Jim Watt especially. I had the fight even after 4 rounds, yet Jim wat scored it 3-1 to mcdermott, the remaining 6 rounds he scored 3-3.

If you watch the fight again with no commetary from Jim Watt and Ed Robinson and score the fight again I think many of you will see Fury was the one throwing the MAJORITY of the punches.

Fury threw over 200 punches more than Mcdermott and thats what swung the decision in his favour.

The 8-2 scorecard from the referee was pure bullshit though and the ref should be disciplined.

As a fighter if Fury was going to be a world beater he would have stopped John Mcdermott inside 5 rounds,

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On the stats fury got something like 18% landed. I think Mcdermott was closer to 30%...

Thats right its not the punches thrown its whats landed and the stats said fury landed fewer but are these so called stats accurate its only 2 men pressing buttons. not exactly computerised is it

alexpaterson · Post by **alexpaterson** » 12 Sep 2009, 07:20

Definetly it was a good fight that I would like to see again plus the wrong man won so there needs to be a rematch

neil hibbert · Post by **neil hibbert** » 12 Sep 2009, 07:43

since when do you score a bout subhect to punches thrown? its about quality of the shots not arm punches!!!!!

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 12 Sep 2009, 07:47

boxrec wrote:
neil hibbert wrote:since when do you score a bout subhect to punches thrown? its about quality of the shots not arm punches!!!!!
Exactly. Any boxing fan would know that its all about punches landed, rather than thrown!

Ditto. And if they'd actually seen the comparative QUALITY of the shots as Neil says, then they'd certainly say McD.

neil hibbert · Post by **neil hibbert** » 12 Sep 2009, 07:55

dont think mcd could gt as motivted for the rematch, jeez would you if you were robbed that bad? imo only stevie wonder and terry oconnor could have score that fight to fury

WildWaylon · Post by **WildWaylon** » 12 Sep 2009, 08:18

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:I must be too naive...or maybe I don't want to believe it.

But there's no way McDermott would get anything other than a fair shake from Richie or Howard.

Richie doesn't give a f*ck who you are - small, big, black, white - you get what you get.

Howard is the same. This is the guy who threw out Matthew Hatton in the last round of a British title eliminator against Alan Bosworth when he was miles ahead because he wouldn't behave. The Hattons and their entourage nearly lynched him but he'd do the same again.

The worry I have is that John will, understandably, just assume he's going to get ripped off and will underperform. Presumably Fury's flapping mouth will again give him motivation though.

I completely agree, Howard Foster is our best ref and Richie is bloody good as well. This fight has obviously damaged McDermotts confidence having won the fight but lost the decision. He knows he would have to KO Fury to be sure he was declared the winner.