
Jose Luis Cotero vs Davey Moore


What's your point, Roger?dagosd2000 wrote:Rick Farris wrote:kikibalt wrote: I was introduce to the liver shot back in the mid-1950s, one day at the Teamsters gym Wicho Morales dug a left hook to my liver, I was against the ropers and I couldn't move, my legs wouldn't do what I wanted them to do, it was about 30 seconds before I could move again, I can still feel that shot....
Frank, you made a very good point. A boxer will NEVER forget the first time they feel that punch, or the second or third, for that matter.
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-Rick Farris
Why the "Hook to the Liver" is such a painful blow . . .
Your liver is like a filter, it filters & cleans the blood of toxins as it pumps thru the body. When a boxer lands a shot to the liver, the liver is momentarily compressed, shutting off the flow of blood for just a split second. A second later, as the punch is retracted, the liver opens up again and the blood then floods the liver, pushing collected bile & toxins directly into the stomach. This is where the pain comes from. You'll notice that for a split-second after the blow lands, the boxer will appear to freeze, a moment later the agony of the punch will overcome him and he will generally wince in pain, holding his side as he hits the canvas. It has a "delayed reaction" effect.
Now I'm no doctor, so if somebody else can explain it better, go right ahead. The bottom line is, IT'S THE MOST PAINFUL PUNCH IN BOXING!
Dr. Richard Farris, liver specialist
I can hear Tom's footsteps approaching.

Frank . . .kikibalt wrote:
Jose Luis Cotero vs Davey Moore
If my memory serves me right, and I have no reason to believe it is, Sean O'Grady was on his way to being a doctor at onetime. Tom can probably confirm this.Rick Farris wrote:I can hear Tom's footsteps approaching.
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What's your point, Roger?
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Tom . . . I was wondering the same thing?
However, let me credit my source of physical reaction to a left hook to the liver.
A similar explanation was used by former champ, Sean O'Grady, for one of his USA Network's TV broadcast feaures on "body punching."
I think Sean was one of the best on the air, and his explanation of little things that are very big inside the ring was unmatched by the HBO gang, any of them.
I loved when Sean put in simple English why we hate a gancho to the gut, as much as a boot in the balls.![]()
-Rick Farris
Some good beer and some salsa and tortillas and you have perfect meal.dagosd2000 wrote:
Bar B Q at my daughters. Maria making carne asada and chicken. USC won and I had a couple of shots of Hornitos. Good night.
Looking back a few years . . .kikibalt wrote:
Eddie Perkins vs Yoshinori Takahashi

Rog, it's my opinion that the guys with the biggest hearts, in any sport, are the ones that remember where they came from and give a little back to boot. Adrian Gonzalez sounds like a class act.dagosd2000 wrote:SIGNATURE PERFORMANCE
Every weekend I drive my wife,Maria,to Food Land Market in National City to buy her tortillas and the usual vegetables,fruit,and other Mexican grocery items that she feels are unequaled in any other part of town. She even prefers the corn tortillas at Food Land over the corn tortillas in Tijuana. I mean who's to say that you can't find better tortillas in the United States?
The market is owned buy an Arab. At least that's what everyone says. I've never seen the guy. Everyone working there is Mexican. The market gets a real workout. It's like going down to TJ to a grocery store . Pinatas hanging from the ceiling. Mexican music playing in the sound system. People speaking Spanish on the PA system. With the exception of a few Philippinos and Blacks,the customers are Mexican.
National City is an old Mexican barrio just south of San Diego. Since Nam,there's been a growth in the a Philippino community because of the 32nd Street Naval Station. Yesterday, when I drove into the Food Land parking lot,it was a mob scene. A section of the parking lot was cordoned off with that yellow police tape. I figure it was a fiesta of sorts. Turned out that Adrian Gonzalez of the San Diego Padres was going to make an appearance.
Adrian Gonzalez grew up in TJ and San Diego. He went to Eastlake High and led their baseball team to a CIF Championship. Eastlake High is in the same area as the Little League Champs from Chula Vista.
After those kids returned to San Diego,Gonzalez treated them to a big dinner in a swank restaurant in the Gas Lamp District downtown. He kept the press away to "protect" the kids. I don't know what he was protecting them from,but I'm sure everybody had a good time.
Yesterday ,in the parking lot,there was a huge crowd. Mostly Mexicans from the barrio. Adrian Gonzalez arrived with a Padre rep. These reps always crack me up. He was sitting next to Adrian like he was protecting him from the crowd. Gonzalez,I'm guessing,wished the guy wasn't there. Gonzalez,instead of wearing his Padre shirt,was wearing a Chivas soccer jersey.
Gonzalez knows what the barrio is. He remembers. He saw the dads with their sons wearing their Padre shirts and caps. The mothers pushing the strollers. The homies.The old SUV's.
There was plenty of Mexican food to be devoured. There was a long line for autographs. Everything was on the house. No charge for the food,the autographs. Adrian Gonzalez paid the tab.
Yeah,that day in the parking lot was good for Food Lands business. People walked inside the store to do their shopping after they met Gonzalez. However, there were people like my wife.She didn't know who Adrian Gonzalez is. She asked me what was going on in the parking lot. I told her that a San Diego Padre ,raised in the barrio, was meeting the people. She continued to pick out the "tunas"(cactus apples) from a big crate. She understood. She lived in the barrio too.
Great shot!!...Randyman wrote:
Jeri and I drove down to the Seal Beach Pier yesterday evening to see the sunset and I got this shot.
Randy
I second that!!!Randyman wrote:Some good beer and some salsa and tortillas and you have perfect meal.dagosd2000 wrote:
Bar B Q at my daughters. Maria making carne asada and chicken. USC won and I had a couple of shots of Hornitos. Good night.
RandyD
Randyman wrote:Rog, it's my opinion that the guys with the biggest hearts, in any sport, are the ones that remember where they came from and give a little back to boot. Adrian Gonzalez sounds like a class act.dagosd2000 wrote:SIGNATURE PERFORMANCE
Every weekend I drive my wife,Maria,to Food Land Market in National City to buy her tortillas and the usual vegetables,fruit,and other Mexican grocery items that she feels are unequaled in any other part of town. She even prefers the corn tortillas at Food Land over the corn tortillas in Tijuana. I mean who's to say that you can't find better tortillas in the United States?
The market is owned buy an Arab. At least that's what everyone says. I've never seen the guy. Everyone working there is Mexican. The market gets a real workout. It's like going down to TJ to a grocery store . Pinatas hanging from the ceiling. Mexican music playing in the sound system. People speaking Spanish on the PA system. With the exception of a few Philippinos and Blacks,the customers are Mexican.
National City is an old Mexican barrio just south of San Diego. Since Nam,there's been a growth in the a Philippino community because of the 32nd Street Naval Station. Yesterday, when I drove into the Food Land parking lot,it was a mob scene. A section of the parking lot was cordoned off with that yellow police tape. I figure it was a fiesta of sorts. Turned out that Adrian Gonzalez of the San Diego Padres was going to make an appearance.
Adrian Gonzalez grew up in TJ and San Diego. He went to Eastlake High and led their baseball team to a CIF Championship. Eastlake High is in the same area as the Little League Champs from Chula Vista.
After those kids returned to San Diego,Gonzalez treated them to a big dinner in a swank restaurant in the Gas Lamp District downtown. He kept the press away to "protect" the kids. I don't know what he was protecting them from,but I'm sure everybody had a good time.
Yesterday ,in the parking lot,there was a huge crowd. Mostly Mexicans from the barrio. Adrian Gonzalez arrived with a Padre rep. These reps always crack me up. He was sitting next to Adrian like he was protecting him from the crowd. Gonzalez,I'm guessing,wished the guy wasn't there. Gonzalez,instead of wearing his Padre shirt,was wearing a Chivas soccer jersey.
Gonzalez knows what the barrio is. He remembers. He saw the dads with their sons wearing their Padre shirts and caps. The mothers pushing the strollers. The homies.The old SUV's.
There was plenty of Mexican food to be devoured. There was a long line for autographs. Everything was on the house. No charge for the food,the autographs. Adrian Gonzalez paid the tab.
Yeah,that day in the parking lot was good for Food Lands business. People walked inside the store to do their shopping after they met Gonzalez. However, there were people like my wife.She didn't know who Adrian Gonzalez is. She asked me what was going on in the parking lot. I told her that a San Diego Padre ,raised in the barrio, was meeting the people. She continued to pick out the "tunas"(cactus apples) from a big crate. She understood. She lived in the barrio too.
Randy
Fellas'kikibalt wrote:I second that!!!Randyman wrote:Some good beer and some salsa and tortillas and you have perfect meal.dagosd2000 wrote:
Bar B Q at my daughters. Maria making carne asada and chicken. USC won and I had a couple of shots of Hornitos. Good night.
RandyD
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This gringo agrees with Randy! The food always looks so good here.Randyman wrote:Some good beer and some salsa and tortillas and you have perfect meal.dagosd2000 wrote:
Bar B Q at my daughters. Maria making carne asada and chicken. USC won and I had a couple of shots of Hornitos. Good night.
RandyD
Rick Farris wrote:This gringo agrees with Randy! The food always looks so good here.Randyman wrote:Some good beer and some salsa and tortillas and you have perfect meal.dagosd2000 wrote:
Bar B Q at my daughters. Maria making carne asada and chicken. USC won and I had a couple of shots of Hornitos. Good night.
RandyD
By the way, Roger, in the pic of Maria at the BBQ I can really see your grandaughter, Amanda.
I don't know exactly what features they share, but you can see they are family.
You all have beautiful families, and I appreciate the photos.
-Rick

Rog, you outdid yourself with this one. You nailed Duran to a tee. As you know Duran is my favorite fighter. This is my favorite Roger Esty painting. Thanks!dagosd2000 wrote:
Roberto Duran
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Roberto Duran