Fury V McDermott, disgusting! (Super-Merged)
Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
If you could link to their posts or if they could state it again I'd appreciate it.
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Chris W 1982
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Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
Im well aware im in the minority but i have no doubt Fury won the fight.Asterix wrote:So far you're the only person I've heard say that.The quiet man 2004 wrote:it was definitely a Fury win.
98-92 was laughable but Fury done enough for me mate
Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
I respect your opinion. It really looked to me (I wasn't far from the action) that Fury was trying to survive for most of the rounds.The quiet man 2004 wrote:Im well aware im in the minority but i have no doubt Fury won the fight.Asterix wrote:So far you're the only person I've heard say that.The quiet man 2004 wrote:it was definitely a Fury win.
98-92 was laughable but Fury done enough for me mate
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Spud
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Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
I will remain consistent and say yep I thought the result was a disgrace!!!
However the witch hunt surrounding Terry O'Connor who is gentleman who has made a mistake is an even bigger disgrace.
In addition I think that witch hunt has let boxrec down very badly indeed.
However the witch hunt surrounding Terry O'Connor who is gentleman who has made a mistake is an even bigger disgrace.
In addition I think that witch hunt has let boxrec down very badly indeed.
Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
no he hasn't.Spud wrote: Terry O'Connor who is gentleman who has made a mistake is an even bigger disgrace.
he has made an inexplicable mistake and has done nothing to try to explain it. There's a big difference there, a massive difference.
Boxing's a coplete joke.
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Spud
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Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
You and others are missing my point!!!NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:no he hasn't.Spud wrote: Terry O'Connor who is gentleman who has made a mistake is an even bigger disgrace.
he has made an inexplicable mistake and has done nothing to try to explain it. There's a big difference there, a massive difference.
Boxing's a coplete joke.
Let the BBBofC sort the mess out - problem is they are spineless.
Its not up to a boxing forum to conduct a disgraceful witch hunt against a gentleman of the sport who has given his all - if he is not up to the job and I do not believe for one minute he is - but that is up to the BBBofC to raise their standards.
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Chris W 1982
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Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
boxrec wrote:There seems to be some tyson fury fanboys that think he won fairly comfortably.Asterix wrote:So far you're the only person I've heard say that.The quiet man 2004 wrote:it was definitely a Fury win.
Blind following is rediculous.
96-94 is hardly comfortably. Read my previous posts and you'll see ive got no favourtism towards Fury.
I even stood to win money from a fellow poster if McDermott as i felt he could do the job.
Despite the result tho, Fury still remains a British prospect and i still believe we should get behind him.
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opticald
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Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
Spud wrote:You and others are missing my point!!!NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:no he hasn't.Spud wrote: Terry O'Connor who is gentleman who has made a mistake is an even bigger disgrace.
he has made an inexplicable mistake and has done nothing to try to explain it. There's a big difference there, a massive difference.
Boxing's a coplete joke.
Let the BBBofC sort the mess out - problem is they are spineless.
Its not up to a boxing forum to conduct a disgraceful witch hunt against a gentleman of the sport who has given his all - if he is not up to the job and I do not believe for one minute he is - but that is up to the BBBofC to raise their standards.
If it's only a "mistake" then why are you so vehemently calling it a disgrace?
Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
My take. McDermott by 2 rounds. But I think there's a potentially wider picture than the merits of O'Connor's decision, namely where Fury goes from here and improvements he is going to have to make to progress in the future.
http://britishboxing.wordpress.com/2009 ... t-victory/
http://britishboxing.wordpress.com/2009 ... t-victory/
Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
Spud wrote:You and others are missing my point!!!NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:no he hasn't.Spud wrote: Terry O'Connor who is gentleman who has made a mistake is an even bigger disgrace.
he has made an inexplicable mistake and has done nothing to try to explain it. There's a big difference there, a massive difference.
Boxing's a coplete joke.
Let the BBBofC sort the mess out - problem is they are spineless.
Its not up to a boxing forum to conduct a disgraceful witch hunt against a gentleman of the sport who has given his all - if he is not up to the job and I do not believe for one minute he is - but that is up to the BBBofC to raise their standards.
I thought boxing was a man's game. If McD gets back in with him and Fury has the strap when they do, then Boxing will have just announced itself as the sport for the thick!
The 70 odd people against 5 that would accept a rematch with Fury as boss, as a way of resolving this mess, they are the ones that are missing the point. They are the ones saying, yes, that was good enough for me, I'm a bit thick, I don't require an explanation into a fighter getting awarded 80% of rounds in a fight 95% of spectators believe he clearly lost.
The only way to resolve it is to
1) DECLARE THE RESULT VOID.
2) ENSURE TERRY O'CONNOR NEVER WORKS IN A BRITISH RING AGAIN
3) AND ONLY THEN, AND IF MCDERMOTT ACCEPTS IT, MANDATE A MCDERMOTT/ FURY REMATCH.
O Connor's reffing didn't just hurt Mcdermott, it hurt Haye, Brook, Jennings, Froch, O'Donnell, amateur gyms up and down the country. People need to take off the fr***ing blindfolds.
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neil hibbert
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Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
well if we all said fornicate all and let this joke of a decision stand and not do anything then things like this will keep happening and the sport we all love will become a joke, ps how anyone had fury winning is beyod me and i used to be a fury fan. some ppl scored the fight to fury because he threw more punches lol dont need to say no more cough cough arm punches!!!!!
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Hagler2002
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Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
You really are a complete and utter penisNorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
The only way to resolve it is to
1) DECLARE THE RESULT VOID.
2) ENSURE TERRY O'CONNOR NEVER WORKS IN A BRITISH RING AGAIN
3) AND ONLY THEN, AND IF MCDERMOTT ACCEPTS IT, MANDATE A MCDERMOTT/ FURY REMATCH.
O Connor's reffing didn't just hurt Mcdermott, it hurt Haye, Brook, Jennings, Froch, O'Donnell, amateur gyms up and down the country. People need to take off the fr***ing blindfolds.
Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
Personally, I'd like to see O'Connor put under review, referees not to judge fights and a rematch between Fury and McDermott.
Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
Okay, as you put that so eloquently........tell me, without resorting to schoolboy insults, what's wrong with it, and what you'd do better?Hagler2002 wrote:You really are a complete and utter penisNorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
The only way to resolve it is to
1) DECLARE THE RESULT VOID.
2) ENSURE TERRY O'CONNOR NEVER WORKS IN A BRITISH RING AGAIN
3) AND ONLY THEN, AND IF MCDERMOTT ACCEPTS IT, MANDATE A MCDERMOTT/ FURY REMATCH.
O Connor's reffing didn't just hurt Mcdermott, it hurt Haye, Brook, Jennings, Froch, O'Donnell, amateur gyms up and down the country. People need to take off the fr***ing blindfolds.
Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
no..............no.............he's gone....happens a lot. Microwave dinner for one went PING!NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:Okay, as you put that so eloquently........tell me, without resorting to schoolboy insults, what's wrong with it, and what you'd do better?Hagler2002 wrote:You really are a complete and utter penisNorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
The only way to resolve it is to
1) DECLARE THE RESULT VOID.
2) ENSURE TERRY O'CONNOR NEVER WORKS IN A BRITISH RING AGAIN
3) AND ONLY THEN, AND IF MCDERMOTT ACCEPTS IT, MANDATE A MCDERMOTT/ FURY REMATCH.
O Connor's reffing didn't just hurt Mcdermott, it hurt Haye, Brook, Jennings, Froch, O'Donnell, amateur gyms up and down the country. People need to take off the fr***ing blindfolds.
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Hagler2002
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Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
Rematch them in 2 to 3 months time and review O'Connors position after say a 6 month cooling off period.NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:Okay, as you put that so eloquently........tell me, without resorting to schoolboy insults, what's wrong with it, and what you'd do better?Hagler2002 wrote:You really are a complete and utter penisNorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
The only way to resolve it is to
1) DECLARE THE RESULT VOID.
2) ENSURE TERRY O'CONNOR NEVER WORKS IN A BRITISH RING AGAIN
3) AND ONLY THEN, AND IF MCDERMOTT ACCEPTS IT, MANDATE A MCDERMOTT/ FURY REMATCH.
O Connor's reffing didn't just hurt Mcdermott, it hurt Haye, Brook, Jennings, Froch, O'Donnell, amateur gyms up and down the country. People need to take off the fr***ing blindfolds.
This witch hunt is nothing more than cringe-worthy.
Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
I had it 97-94 to John Mc, and that was being generous to Fury. I gave Fury 3 rounds and a share of one. No way I could see Fury winning that fight, and an immediate rematch should be ordered by the board. Watching Fury I couldn't help think of Audley but without the gold medal. David Price would give him hell.
Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
Hagler...
i'm only saying your name cos u can only embed 3 quotes and someone will no doubt post b4 me....
rematch them in "2 to 3 months time".......well do you mean 2 , or do you mean 3 ?? Don't you get splinters in your ass sat on that fence?
You know it was a 10 round contest.....who do you think they are, Sugar Ray Robinson?.....I mean why not just stage it a week on Tuesday??
"Review" O Connor's licence....in about 6 month's time after a "cooling off period".....I'm tired of saying this but he scored 8 out of 10 rounds to a man 95% of viewers thought lost the fight. That's not a blooper, it's a full on licence revoking-worthy incident.
Fact is, and this is just my perception, he knew who was going to win before he got in the ring.
O'Connor hurt boxing on Friday. I'll go to the Echo as I have an interest in the Welter scene, but after that you can probably chalk me off a few shows as a direct result of O Connor. Likewise if an when I have kids I'll make sure they know boxing's a load of sh*t as a career.
i'm only saying your name cos u can only embed 3 quotes and someone will no doubt post b4 me....
rematch them in "2 to 3 months time".......well do you mean 2 , or do you mean 3 ?? Don't you get splinters in your ass sat on that fence?
You know it was a 10 round contest.....who do you think they are, Sugar Ray Robinson?.....I mean why not just stage it a week on Tuesday??
"Review" O Connor's licence....in about 6 month's time after a "cooling off period".....I'm tired of saying this but he scored 8 out of 10 rounds to a man 95% of viewers thought lost the fight. That's not a blooper, it's a full on licence revoking-worthy incident.
Fact is, and this is just my perception, he knew who was going to win before he got in the ring.
O'Connor hurt boxing on Friday. I'll go to the Echo as I have an interest in the Welter scene, but after that you can probably chalk me off a few shows as a direct result of O Connor. Likewise if an when I have kids I'll make sure they know boxing's a load of sh*t as a career.
Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
no no no.... its up to o'connor to raise his bloody standards, not the BBB of C. it may as well have been tom o'connor in the ring, it was a joke !!Spud wrote:You and others are missing my point!!!NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:no he hasn't.Spud wrote: Terry O'Connor who is gentleman who has made a mistake is an even bigger disgrace.
he has made an inexplicable mistake and has done nothing to try to explain it. There's a big difference there, a massive difference.
Boxing's a coplete joke.
Let the BBBofC sort the mess out - problem is they are spineless.
Its not up to a boxing forum to conduct a disgraceful witch hunt against a gentleman of the sport who has given his all - if he is not up to the job and I do not believe for one minute he is - but that is up to the BBBofC to raise their standards.
3 judges for all title fights would be the only way forward, then john would have won on a split decision for sure.
right.... john was unlucky to lose the fight , i only had him winning by one point as i had fury taking 2 of the first 3 rounds. then remember john was very very lucky not to get docked 2 points for his behaviour with his head at the end of the 1st (arnie will remember losing 2 points against ojay for a very similar offence).
so when you weigh the whole thing up, perhaps john was lucky to still be in there for the 2nd round. the fact that o'connor b0llocked john for his head meant that he had seen the crime, in that case he should have dealt with it properly and docked points.
yes fury started it with a bit of head rubbing, but that is commonplace in the pro-game. john should know better than trying a fully fledged glasgow kiss....
Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
Tom O'Connor would have got it right.....and Des.rhino222 wrote:
no no no.... its up to o'connor to raise his bloody standards, not the BBB of C. it may as well have been tom o'connor in the ring, it was a joke !!
Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:The quiet man 2004 wrote:By the way, well done John McDermott. Your a good competitor and i hope you get a rematch.
an insult.
See, the thing is, you were trying to be nice. NEBF is deliberately contrary more often than not. Don't worry about it.
Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
What might the wider and future context be of overturning a ref's decision? 'Declare the result void'? On the basis that someone else (or everyone else, even) had a different opinion to the ref? Where would that end?NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
The 70 odd people against 5 that would accept a rematch with Fury as boss, as a way of resolving this mess, they are the ones that are missing the point. They are the ones saying, yes, that was good enough for me, I'm a bit thick, I don't require an explanation into a fighter getting awarded 80% of rounds in a fight 95% of spectators believe he clearly lost.
The only way to resolve it is to
1) DECLARE THE RESULT VOID.
2) ENSURE TERRY O'CONNOR NEVER WORKS IN A BRITISH RING AGAIN
3) AND ONLY THEN, AND IF MCDERMOTT ACCEPTS IT, MANDATE A MCDERMOTT/ FURY REMATCH.
O Connor's reffing didn't just hurt Mcdermott, it hurt Haye, Brook, Jennings, Froch, O'Donnell, amateur gyms up and down the country. People need to take off the fr***ing blindfolds.
Ensure Terry O'Connor never works in a British ring again? WTF? Isn't your problem with the SCORE? He reffed the fight fine, as far as I could see.
Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
I'm trying to highlight the fact that Mcdermott won and a sweepy under the carpet rematch does nothing for the sport.Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:The quiet man 2004 wrote:By the way, well done John McDermott. Your a good competitor and i hope you get a rematch.
an insult.
See, the thing is, you were trying to be nice. NEBF is deliberately contrary more often than not. Don't worry about it.
"Well done John"....."get in again John"........"risk your health John when you've won once already"....."pat pat John, unlucky, these things happen"........
Anyone that subscribes to that mentality has got utter mug written all over them.
I genuinely do not mean that to convey any offence whatsoever, but I don't care if people take it that way, they need to wake up. It sickens me actually that people don't give a sh*t......."Ooh , what the f*ck went wrong tonight?.........never mind, let's just forget about it and have a rematch...."
NO. NO. NO.
Re: Fury V McDermott, disgusting! (Super-Merged)
or to put it in a way more people might understand:
How many times would you want to catch your wife f*cking another bloke before you got rid of her.
I'm getting a lot of, "let's give it another go love.." on this forum.
Cheating is cheating, IMO.
How many times would you want to catch your wife f*cking another bloke before you got rid of her.
I'm getting a lot of, "let's give it another go love.." on this forum.
Cheating is cheating, IMO.
Re: Are people taking this Fury/Mcdermott/O'Connor item too far?
And how is it 'sweeping it under the carpet'? Isn't it doing the opposite? I think the ref got it wildly wrong but if you start throwing their verdicts out, you're f*cked. I admire your sense of morality and justice but just think of the consequences of overturning ref's decisions.