Hauser on SRR: Part 2!

[granberry]

Grandma was lying again?

Grandma said LaMotta was NEVER knocked down.

Grandma looks like a total jerk again.

collins and his crew of Ali cabana boys FALSIFY.

I wrote that in losing his title to Robinson

La Motta kept his recortd intact of never being knocked down.

The homosexually fixated collins and his crew can't read.

Everyone here remembers when homosexually fixated sicko collins ran to the moderators to complain when I posted a comic book cover that featured the faces of four greats of Mexican boxing--Kid Azteca, Juan Zurita, Joe Conde, and Baby Casanova.



collins wanted the post deleted because he thought it had nothing to do with boxing.

WHY?

Because collins never heard of Kid Azteca, Juan Zurita, Joe Conde, and Baby Casanova.

collins didn't know who they were..

And his buddy 'moderators' actually deleted the post at his direction, because they didn't know who Kid Azteca, Juan Zurita, Joe Conde, and Baby Casanova were either.

[granberry]

HERE IS WHAT Granberry wrote:

The cretins posting here don't know that La Motta's greatest claim to fame was that he was never knocked off his feet

and he kept that record intact in losing his title to Robinson.

Raylawc quotes Ali caban boy Ifeelfine's falsification of what I wrote.

The cretins posting here don't know that La Motta's greatest claim to fame was that he was never knocked off his feet.

Danny Nardico. He was old, of course, but "never" is a big word.

How many more knockouts do you have than Robinson and Foreman, dingleberry? And by that I do not mean falling asleep in the gutter; we already know you hold that record.

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Raylawc doesn't know how to read.

And he falsifies the posts of others.

I see you are learning from your mentor, collins, aren't you Raylawc.

Poor Raylawc doesn't know enough about boxing to know that La Motta was never knocked off his feet when he lost his title to Robinson, and that he kept that claim to fame intact in that fight.

Now run to your favorite 'moderator' and cry that your delicate feelings have been hurt, raylawc.

[BoxBuzz]

"You never got me down Ray." You have to wonder if he actually said something like that to Ray that night.

[Collins2000]

I do wish grandma would be more specific in her claims.

Now we are expected to read between the lines on what she writes.

Still, it was good to see that jizz-stained copy of THE mag once again.

[BoxBuzz]

Collins, do you write your mother with the same hand that types these contributions?

[Collins2000]

Collins, do you write your mother with the same hand that types these contributions?

Er, are you hitting on me again?

[granberry]

The homosexually fixated sicko of boxrec, collins,

has enlisted all of his crew of Ali cabana boys to post about their member Ifeelfine's falsification of my post on this thread.

The cabana boys are so desperate that they have now resorted to falsifying posts of others.

raylawc, the pawn of collins, has appeared,
obviously instructed through a private email on what to post.

Any moment broken-English Frankie Hate-America La Raza will appear.

Remember, when Mr. La Raza posts in his normal broken English he does his best to put the post together himself. If it is in somewhat less broken English, then his mentor collins wrote it for him.

[Collins2000]

Grandma, there is no 'conspiracy' led by me.

Each of these people independently find you ridiculous and, in many cases, offensive.

Most of them no longer even respond to you. You pathetic bitter old rummy.

[Collins2000]

Grandma, your rantings about a conspiracy allow us to uderstand how your warped old semi-senile mind can make many other claims that are patently absurd.

Like me being a faggot, for instance!

There are only two obvious faggots in here. Jack Flem2 and Irene.

Grandma, you are one of a kind. I sure hope you have not been able to breed or have ever had any inflluence in the raising of children.

[I Feel Fine]

I do apologize to granberry for the period, which makes the sentence look as though it ended there. That was accidental. I am willing to grant that perhaps granny was saying "never" in regards to the Robinson fights specifically and not in regards to his whole career, even if he could have written the sentence a little more clearly; it is unfortunate that granberry cannot grant the same courtesy to a writer who was using common boxing parlance that real boxers often use. "It was the only time I knocked him out" - Sugar Ray Robinson
And it is not because I am part of some hypothetical Hauser fan club, I did read his book on Ali a long time ago but I do not follow Hauser's articles or work otherwise. It is just wrong to single people out for using this expression of "knockout" in regards to a TKO when actual boxers use this language.

[granberry]

Grandma, there is no 'conspiracy' led by me.

Each of these people independently find you ridiculous and, in many cases, offensive.

Most of them no longer even respond to you. You pathetic bitter old rummy.

You LIE.

You brought Frankie La Raza and raylawc to boxrec.

You work in tandem with them and your Ali cabana boys Ifeelfine, Irene and others.

The total stupidity displayed on thread about Jake La Motta is typical of sites like this.

Not one of you Ali cabana boys have a clue who he was.

[Collins2000]

Jake who?

[Collins2000]

Grandma, there is no 'conspiracy' led by me.

Each of these people independently find you ridiculous and, in many cases, offensive.

Most of them no longer even respond to you. You pathetic bitter old rummy.

You LIE.

Well, I guess you'd like to believe that, grandma.

It might mean you aren't universally disliked and held up as an object of ridicule.

Unfortunately, on this matter, I am not lying.

[I Feel Fine]

I forgot to thank raylaw for the photo; classic, though quite sad to look at.

[bollox]

Good writeup. Thoroughly enjoyed it

[BoxBuzz]

Collins, do you write your mother with the same hand that types these contributions?

Er, are you hitting on me again?

Not at all, Why do you ask? did those mags get you in the mood?

[Ezzard]

I’ve always thought that the distinction needed to be made.

The old British Boxing Year books did a good job of this.

So results would be written up as…

WCO9 – Counted out in the 9th
WRSF 7 – Ref stopped the fight in the 7th
WRtd 5 – Opponent retired in the 5th
WUD, WSD, WMD, DSD, DMD…

I’ve always been surprised that this notation was not taken up in the USA because I know how much our American cousins love their sports stats.

[Flump]

I’ve always thought that the distinction needed to be made.

The old British Boxing Year books did a good job of this.

So results would be written up as…

WCO9 – Counted out in the 9th
WRSF 7 – Ref stopped the fight in the 7th
WRtd 5 – Opponent retired in the 5th
WUD, WSD, WMD, DSD, DMD…

I’ve always been surprised that this notation was not taken up in the USA because I know how much our American cousins love their sports stats.

Very true Ezzard, the old US way was misleading on certain fighters too, looking at say Alan Minter's record with several KO by's you'd think he was glass jawed, when in fact almost all of his stoppage defeats were on cuts.

[wouter]

I’ve always been surprised that this notation was not taken up in the USA because I know how much our American cousins love their sports stats.

It's called laziness, but excused somewhat by the abundance of fights in the U.S.

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

The old British Boxing Year books did a good job of this.

So results would be written up as…

WCO9 – Counted out in the 9th
WRSF 7 – Ref stopped the fight in the 7th
WRtd 5 – Opponent retired in the 5th
WUD, WSD, WMD, DSD, DMD…

I’ve always been surprised that this notation was not taken up in the USA because I know how much our American cousins love their sports stats.

- It's the baseball cousins who like the stats, not boxing. Boxrec is the most innovative boxing tool for boxing since the typewriter, but it's Brit based.

Most Americans could care less about seeing easily cross referenced fighter records in lineal time and location. Give'em a knockout figure to go with plenty of beer and urinals, and they're sorted for the rest of the night.

[I Feel Fine]

If you want to start a mass movement to get TKO's distinguished from KO's, you should, but it is wrong to single out individuals for using the sort of language that real and legendary boxers used in the past and I'm sure still do. Robinson may not have posted on boxing message boards but he knew a little bit about the sport.

[Goodnight, Irene]

How often do we even see legitimate KO's now, anyway?

Almost all are stoppages in the modern game.

[Ezzard]

The old British Boxing Year books did a good job of this.

So results would be written up as…

WCO9 – Counted out in the 9th
WRSF 7 – Ref stopped the fight in the 7th
WRtd 5 – Opponent retired in the 5th
WUD, WSD, WMD, DSD, DMD…

I’ve always been surprised that this notation was not taken up in the USA because I know how much our American cousins love their sports stats.

- It's the baseball cousins who like the stats, not boxing. Boxrec is the most innovative boxing tool for boxing since the typewriter, but it's Brit based.

Most Americans could care less about seeing easily cross referenced fighter records in lineal time and location. Give'em a knockout figure to go with plenty of beer and urinals, and they're sorted for the rest of the night.

Yes, baseball... but NFL too is saturated in stats. Basketball too.

Agree though that boxing just doesn't lend itself to statistical analysis for many reasons.