Fury's New Career Path

[winkveron]

What do you guys think Fury should do over the next 2 years to progress his career? I'm not interested in discussing the McDermott controversy, what happened happened. What should the future hold and what will help him improve if you think he will?

I think if he had a top quality trainer who made him use his size and jab as his primary weapon (a bit like Lewis) he could be more effective. Maybe going to America for some top sparring and a few fights would do him good. I feel if he goes for the British title (Is he mandatory now?) it maybe to soon.

[Tykemania]

What do you guys think Fury should do over the next 2 years to progress his career? I'm not interested in discussing the McDermott controversy, what happened happened. What should the future hold and what will help him improve if you think he will?

I think if he had a top quality trainer who made him use his size and jab as his primary weapon (a bit like Lewis) he could be more effective. Maybe going to America for some top sparring and a few fights would do him good. I feel if he goes for the British title (Is he mandatory now?) it maybe to soon.

Like or not McDermott is part of it - whilst I think Fury nicked it, the Essex man deserves a rematch and Fury needs to enter a better and more convincing performance.

After that, I would be of the opinion that he needs to advance slowly. He might be wise to have a look at some US opposition to aid his schooling.

A fight with Price in 18 months time looks a decent bet.

[Wales]

Mcdermott will be next, unless he gets a filler inbetween. Surely? The only way that doesnt happen is if Big John doesnt want it, but then why wouldnt he if he watches the tapes back?

[Coco]

Maybe he needs to concentrate on his day job too as he is not gonna make enough money out of boxing to retire on

[Wales]

The cost price of heather and pegs has gone through the roof coco, so I hope for his sake you're wrong.

[youngrell]

I think he seriously needs to work on his technique, he was awful on Friday and I didn't see one decent hook to the head from him all night, he seemed to be pushing his shots. The only decent punch I saw in his arsenal was the left to the body.

It's hard for him though, seems like he's not quit ready for McDermott level but way too good for the level he was fighting before. Is there an in between?

[Wales]

Mcdermott was able to get inside the ineffective jab all night wasnt he, and Furys defense was bobbins - then again, what a learning fight for a 7 fight novice. We know a load more baout him now compared ot what we knew (or thoguht we knew) this time last week.

[mickey1975]

Maybe he needs to concentrate on his day job too as he is not gonna make enough money out of boxing to retire on

they are actually a wealthy family

[Flump]

He should be straight back in the ring in a marking time fight to get some more experience. Hennessy should stick him on the Froch bill as US TV will be over.

[THEBUTCH]

Following the win over McDermott, if I was Hennessy, I would slow things down a little...not a lot, but a little.

To say Fury isn't ready for McDermott is rubbish because he beat him IMO, and at the very least competed extremely well over the ten rounds for a 7 fight novice. Infact, for a 10 month pro entering into the 4th round for the 1st time it was a one hell of a showing.

If you're able to cut through the hype that's surrounded Fury, Saturday's performance was a superb effort. He's not going to look polished, composed and deliver his shots brilliantly because he took a quantem leap in class and you just don't away with the flaws like he would have had he continued boxing lesser opposition and improving steadily. This guy is about excitement and rising to the challenge. It was an exciting fight and he rose to the challenge.

From here, I'd drop down a notch for his next fight, try and defend the Enlish title once and then give McDermott a return, be it defending the English title or if a bigger title becomes vacant.

With two or three more fights Fury will beat McDermott in more emphatic fashion. It's just the beginning for Fury, McDermott has taken 8 years and 30 fights to be able to push a Fury who's at the start of his career.

[stevieb_8006]

Following the win over McDermott, if I was Hennessy, I would slow things down a little...not a lot, but a little.

To say Fury isn't ready for McDermott is rubbish because he beat him IMO, and at the very least competed extremely well over the ten rounds for a 7 fight novice. Infact, for a 10 month pro entering into the 4th round for the 1st time it was a one hell of a showing.

If you're able to cut through the hype that's surrounded Fury, Saturday's performance was a superb effort. He's not going to look polished, composed and deliver his shots brilliantly because he took a quantem leap in class and you just don't away with the flaws like he would have had he continued boxing lesser opposition and improving steadily. This guy is about excitement and rising to the challenge. It was an exciting fight and he rose to the challenge.

From here, I'd drop down a notch for his next fight, try and defend the Enlish title once and then give McDermott a return, be it defending the English title or if a bigger title becomes vacant.

With two or three more fights Fury will beat McDermott in more emphatic fashion. It's just the beginning for Fury, McDermott has taken 8 years and 30 fights to be able to push a Fury who's at the start of his career.

i agree

[SteveDow]

I like Tyson Fury and while he was lucky to get the decision on Friday he has had a great first 9 months as a professional.

I'm not convinced he can go all the way with his current trainer and team though. He has a number of technical flaws which need ironing out and I think he would do well to head over to the States to train at one of the well known gyms over there. I'm not convinced he plants his feet properly when he throws a punch. Most of his punches tend to be arm punches with limited power and at any sort of decent level fighters will simply walk through him at the moment (as McDermott did).

I also think he needs to get himself into better physical condition. I'm not saying he'll ever have a physique like David Haye but he is clearly carrying lots of excess weight which suggests that his diet and training regime may not be strict enough.

That said, it is very early days and hopefully he will use the lucky escape he had on Friday to sort the things I mentioned above out because he has tremendous potential. Remember he is only 21.

[stevieb_8006]

I like Tyson Fury and while he was lucky to get the decision on Friday he has had a great first 9 months as a professional.

I'm not convinced he can go all the way with his current trainer and team though. He has a number of technical flaws which need ironing out and I think he would do well to head over to the States to train at one of the well known gyms over there. I'm not convinced he plants his feet properly when he throws a punch. Most of his punches tend to be arm punches with limited power and at any sort of decent level fighters will simply walk through him at the moment (as McDermott did).

I also think he needs to get himself into better physical condition. I'm not saying he'll ever have a physique like David Haye but he is clearly carrying lots of excess weight which suggests that his diet and training regime may not be strict enough.

That said, it is very early days and hopefully he will use the lucky escape he had on Friday to sort the things I mentioned above out because he has tremendous potential. Remember he is only 21.

needs a coach that knows heavys i reckon.

[SteveDow]

Based on the performance of his eighth fight he should fight:

1. John McDermott
2. Derek Chisora
3. Martin Rogan
4. Danny Williams
5. Sam Sexton

That would be a very tough schedule if you think he should fight the 5 guys you mention above in his next 5 fights.

I think there is a danger of rushing Fury. I think a rematch with McDermott is inevitable as his next fight. If he wins that then he should be looking to fight beatable guys with lots of experience who will teach him new things. So, for example, in one fight he should go in with a big puncher to test his chin, in another he should go in with a very aggressive fighter, in another he should go in with a more crafty tactical fighter. It's all a learning curve at the moment and I wouldn't be looking to put him in with the likes of Rogan or Williams just yet unless he looks absolutely sensational in th rematch against McDermott.

[lurkyshaka]

Ideally Fury would get chance to slow down and take a learning curve fights. Bouts against durable opposition who will give him some work and allow him to work on his game.

But due to the obvious controversy surrounding his fight against McDermott, its likely he'll have to fight McDermott next.

Either he'll show he's learnt from the first fight and he'll genuinely win the rematch. Or he'll still be found wanting and McDermott will get a win he should have already had. Its another sink or swim fight for Fury.

Fury could of course say No to an immediate McDermott return and seek to get some more experience under his belt first....but to do this would likely mean being stripped of the English title. And also it'd be just about admitting he lost the first fight and isn't ready yet, which i certainly cannot see him doing.

This highlights the mistake it is to rush up and coming fighters. Fury is a lower level example of a bigger issue. Nowadays its not unusual to have fighter become world champions while still very much works in progress, and really before they are ready to meet the challenges/defenses that await them. Once a fighter is moved up it hard to reign them in and reel them back a bit, even though that might be the most sensible thing to do for their future.

[leforge]

Was Fury rushed to try and help get his promotor a new tv deal!

[davidas]

I cant believe anyone could possibly think Fury won that fight and that IS part of it - He no longer will feel invincible and he'll get exposed sooner rather than later and wont be getting much more attention once the novelty of his height wears off. I dont think he comes accross well and I find him almost embarassing infront of the camera.

[Shirow]

Following the win over McDermott, if I was Hennessy, I would slow things down a little...not a lot, but a little.

To say Fury isn't ready for McDermott is rubbish because he beat him IMO, and at the very least competed extremely well over the ten rounds for a 7 fight novice. Infact, for a 10 month pro entering into the 4th round for the 1st time it was a one hell of a showing.

If you're able to cut through the hype that's surrounded Fury, Saturday's performance was a superb effort. He's not going to look polished, composed and deliver his shots brilliantly because he took a quantem leap in class and you just don't away with the flaws like he would have had he continued boxing lesser opposition and improving steadily. This guy is about excitement and rising to the challenge. It was an exciting fight and he rose to the challenge.

From here, I'd drop down a notch for his next fight, try and defend the Enlish title once and then give McDermott a return, be it defending the English title or if a bigger title becomes vacant.

With two or three more fights Fury will beat McDermott in more emphatic fashion. It's just the beginning for Fury, McDermott has taken 8 years and 30 fights to be able to push a Fury who's at the start of his career.

It's a shame that there aren't ambitious domestic journeyman types at this level at HW like there are at the lower weights. You'd think they'd be lots of ex Russian amateurs who don't have the potential of a Povetkin for example but a willing to do it the hard way.
He could use a few Derek McCafferty types (perhaps a bit more aggressive though to keep him thinking about defence) who while not likely to beat him will give him stubborn resistance and make him think.

[Asterix]

1) Fury needs to work on his strength and fitness. That's very important.
2) He needs to throw punches properly. People have been talking about his arm punches since day one, and I'm not sure I've seen an improvement.
3) As I've said before, develop a hard, fast jab. He should be able to throw hard jabs constantly. Again, this goes back to point number one, where his strength and fitness are not up to scratch. I can see potential for a very good jab.

All in all, I think he needs a new trainer. His current one is not sorting him out.

As for fights, I'm afraid the McDermott fight will hang over him until they have a rematch. He could avoid him, but if Fury sorts out some of his flaws he should win. Do not expect a knock out, though, as I think Fury did.

I think someone like Dave Ferguson might provide a good learning fight.

[Wales]

I cant believe anyone could possibly think Fury won that fight.

How did you score it? most people on the scoring thread on here had it 96-94 one way or the other, so ONE round in it, or a draw - so to say how could ANYONE possibly think Fury won is a bit of a grand statement.

[n1ebf]

He said he'll step on Danny Williams.....I say give him Danny Williams. I'm sure Danny would welcome a well attended, televised hurrah and a few quid for an easy night's work.

However, the fight even hotter than that is the rematch with supposedly Mcmuffin .....the words fingers/ burnt, come to mind.

This is providing of course the Board quash that bloody ridiculous, outrageous decision by TOC.

A super fit Mcdermott would dictate and quite possible blast Fury out late on.

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

A super fit Mcdermott would dictate and quite possible blast Fury out late on.

- A superfit McD is it now, eh?

BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!

Best hope a super qualified ref ain't in the ring though, because after stopping action TWICE to replace the knocked out gumshield of McD, when McD turns his back on Fury once much less TWICE as he did to run to the ropes he will be TKOed on the spot.

Let's hope you weak sisters get your wish, but the stinker is McD made no noise about a rematch like Fury wanted. The rematch challenge was left unattended by McD camp to die on the vine. Your boy got all the fire whooped out of him.

[n1ebf]

McDermott was an idiot to turn around like that......he could have pulled defeat out of the jaws of victory.....assuming the scoring hadn't been mangled already.

But no question MacD was by FAR the fitter fighter.

I have never, EVER seen a fighter do the sleeping Walrus before like Fury. Arms by his side just having a lie down on Mcdermott. Someone said it looked like he was trying to touch his toes the big fatty.

At least whip yourself in to shape Fury if you're going to spout of giving it the big 'un.

He was in the BN 60 second interview (I think) but I read he has a full English everyday for breakfast.

Can I suggest porridge fruit and a 5 mile run chubby!

[Coco]

In fairness to Fury he was a career lightest, so training must have gone well
He could lose another stone though

[Wales]

Also, it was his 8th pro fight, and he'd never gone past 4 rounds is it...

Anyone on here who's boxed 4 competative rounds will tell you how damned hard it is, anyone on here who's done ten pro round will explain the world of difference.