Hypothetical Match-Up Game

[I Feel Fine]

Johannson stops Spinks... though I get the sense that it is not quite as brutal as Dempsey or Rocky versus Hearns... :)
Walcott decisions Baer in an interesting fight.

Walcott vs. Schmeling, to decide who was the best Joe Louis opponent, in a 15 rounder.
Undercard: Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Ike Williams at Lightweight, 15 rounds.

[allworld80]

Schmeling delivers the finisher in the 9th after a very nice tactical battle. Schmeling KO9.

Williams and Chavez is a complete toss up for me. I'll go with the stronger Chavez in a close decision.

Donald Curry vs Alan Minter in a MW affair

[Robinson]

They are talking about Hearns against Dempsey over on MaxBoxing (Imbeciles), so who knows?

Dempsey fought smaller men, so why not.

[Datsue]

Donald Curry vs Alan Minter in a MW affair

Curry ventured to 11 stone six before, & got done by a southpaw (was it eleven rounds Nunn took?). Even if you make the case that he was seriously diminished in that fight (& I admit he was), the extra weight dulls him & Alan jabs his way to victory over the route. Possibility Curry catches him with something & doesn't let him off the hook, but I just don't think he'd be able to impose himself on the awkward Englishman.

Alex Stewart (the night he fought Foreman) vs Nino Valdez (the night he smashed up Don Cockell).

Yeah, I know, I'm perverse.

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

Alex Stewart (the night he fought Foreman) vs Nino Valdez (the night he smashed up Don Cockell).

Yeah, I know, I'm perverse.

- Stewert a very underappreciated dangerous fighter never given any credit for fighting the best. Nino would probably be KOed since he was a very uneven fighter with a touchy chin.

Jose Ribalta circa the Tyson fight against Dempsey friend and sparmate Big Bill Tate circa 1921-22 where he records a couple of wins over Langford and win and draw against Wills.

[Goodnight, Irene]

They are talking about Hearns against Dempsey over on MaxBoxing (Imbeciles), so who knows?

Dempsey fought smaller men, so why not.

That's Tommy Hearns, stopped by 147lb. Ray Leonard, just to be clear.

Why not, indeed. Bring on Klitschko-Marquez!

[Robinson]

They are talking about Hearns against Dempsey over on MaxBoxing (Imbeciles), so who knows?

Dempsey fought smaller men, so why not.

That's Tommy Hearns, stopped by 147lb. Ray Leonard, just to be clear.

Why not, indeed. Bring on Klitschko-Marquez!

Or the Joe Walcott's and Sam Langford's that dominated the HW
scene in yester year. Such epic men in mass and frame.
According to this site Dempsey had fought at around the 150lb
mark and I wonder how many of his foes were around that weight.

But I forget, the clique here are the experts on boxing, and
so long as they sit on their lounge chairs and profess expertise
and never engage in any real dialogue or conversation that may
be differing in opinion then all is happy.

But then again...different era, when most the money was at
HW and smaller sized men climbed through the ropes to wear
the big man strap, because that was where the money was.

As my good fellow boards man likes to tell me..."different era."

And yes a 147lb Leonard did stop Hearns, I was aware of this
and Dempsey fought men of all shapes and sizes, just not to
many were as big as Willard.

[Goodnight, Irene]

I wonder what the difference in punching power is between Dempsey & Leonard, or Dempsey & Barkley?

Not too great, apparently.

[I Feel Fine]

Robinson, I think you know perfectly well that Dempsey would stop Hearns in one round. Lets get serious. Dempsey was in his late teens and early 20s, he could have never made those weights later in his career, just as Hearns could have never made Welterweight in his 30s. Georges Carpentier, Light Heavyweight champ and Dempsey challenger, is famous for having fought in every weight class. But he fought in those lower weights when he was what we would call under age. He could have never made Featherweight, for instance, when he was Light Heavyweight champion. I feel like I do not need to explain this, but perhaps I do. Some guys have a Heavyweight punch, some guys don't.

[Robinson]

We shall never know :)

[Goodnight, Irene]

Valdez drops a narrow decision to the busier Stewart. That's a contestable fight.

Try this one on...

Felix Trinidad vs. Mike McCallum at 154 over twelve rounds...

[Flump]

Valdez drops a narrow decision to the busier Stewart. That's a contestable fight.

Try this one on...

Felix Trinidad vs. Mike McCallum at 154 over twelve rounds...

I like McCallum by decision here, Trinidad has his moments but can't budge the Jamaican who finishes much the stronger.

Juan Domingo Roldan vs Nigel Benn, 12 rounds, 160 lbs

[I Feel Fine]

I will take Benn by TKO at some point in the later rounds. Roldan was pretty tough, but Benn was a bigger banger and a championship level fighter. It is difficult to picture a fighter as easy to hit as Roldan being able to survive Benn's shots. Would be an exciting fight while it lasted, ala Roldan's fight with Hearns or Benn's fight with Barkley.

Harry Greb vs. Ezzard Charles at 168, 15 rounds

[allworld80]

Greb by decision at this weight, or any weight between these two.

Big Boy card....

Vitali Klitschko vs Ernie Terrell

Lennox Lewis vs George Foreman (first go round)

12 RDS apiece

[I Feel Fine]

Vitali probably wins a fair decision. Lewis probably stops George in ten. Lewis would not fight a careless fight against Big George, and though George just has to land one, Lennox isn't a soft puncher either. Whenever I make a top ten list I always vacillate as to who I should rate higher between these two.
Ron Lyle vs. Michael Moorer, 12
Jimmy Ellis vs. Ray Mercer, 12

[Robinson]

Lyle and Moorer have a yoyo battle that is damned fun to watch.
Moorer manages to stay safe towards the later rounds and wins
a close decision in a damned fun to watch fight.

Ellis is boxing well and near schooling Mercer who follows a fleet
footed Ellis. Mercer slowly starts to land harder shots as the fight
wears on, but Ellis looks good all the same. In the 8th Mercer lands
a hard right hand followed by a left hook that sends Ellis down.
Mercer by KO in a come behind win.

Ray Mercer Vs Michael Moorer if they met in 1991. 12 rounds.

George Foreman (1972) Vs Joe Louis (1938) 15 rounds.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Close fights at both ends. I'll pre-face my calls by saying I absolutely wouldn't be surprised if these went the other way, but...

Moorer was tough (glass jaw aside), but not especially fleet-footed. Hey, either was a 43-year-old Holmes, & Mercer couldn't get to him. This is tight. Mercer'd struggle a lot, I fancy, with Moorer's jab & hook. Mercer, again, returns from behind on the cards to take Moorer out in seven rounds.

Louis' shorter, faster, straighter punches negate Foreman's reach & height advantage to score a fifth-round TKO, in which both men hit the deck.

Try this...

George Foreman (1991) vs. David Tua (1997) over twelve rounds. Left hook or straight right, gents?

[NazNaci1]

Try this...

George Foreman (1991) vs. David Tua (1997) over twelve rounds. Left hook or straight right, gents?

Tough fight, Tua would come boring in but would begin to eat that pole of a left jab making him a little reluctant to commit. Tua begins to settle into a rather passive role of sitting on the outside, after tasting those ramrod Foreman jabs and follow up rights. Face busting up and some desperation creeping in, Tua comes out bombing in the 8th round and although he connects with a few trademark hooks to both, body and head - It is to no avail. Round ends, Tua is finished and his corner retire him.

Result - Foreman TKO 9 Tua

How about this one:

Floyd Mayweather Jnr (2002) vs Estaban De Jesus (1972) - Lightweight 15 Rounds

[Goodnight, Irene]

Lightweight not Mayweather's best division, but he's a cut above the very good --- just short of great --- DeJesus, whom he decisions in a competitive bout.

Ike Ibeabuchi (1999) vs. Ray Mercer (1991). Twelve exciting Heavyweight rounds...

[allworld80]

I was never sold on "The President" as much as some. I like Mercer to walk through Ike on his way to a late stoppage.

Shane Mosley vs Julio Cesar Chavez @ 135

[Goodnight, Irene]

Terrific battle, &, IMO, each man's best weight. Chavez was truly a monster at Lightweight, though, & I expect him to hurt & outwork Mosley for a close decision.

Bob Foster vs. Jerry Quarry in a twelve-rounder at Heavyweight. Circa-1970.

[prodigious1]

I guess you have to take Quarry there just because Bob had his issues at heavy. However, I could see Foster taking it on cuts.


Old Foreman vs Wlad Klitschko

[hitman09]

I guess you have to take Quarry there just because Bob had his issues at heavy. However, I could see Foster taking it on cuts.


Old Foreman vs Wlad Klitschko

Foreman KO 9 while well down on the cards.

Main Event
Bernard Hopkins vs Sugar Ray Leonard 12 rds MW
Undercard
Shane Mosley vs Roberto Duran 12 rds WW
Finito Lopez vs Ivan Calderon 12 rds SW

[I Feel Fine]

Hopkins SD, Duran MD, Lopez UD
Good fights.

Henry Armstrong vs. Kid Gavilan at Welterweight, 15

[Flump]

Hopkins SD, Duran MD, Lopez UD
Good fights.

Henry Armstrong vs. Kid Gavilan at Welterweight, 15

Great match, if compubox were around for this they would have had trouble keeping up, this one must go the distance, Armstrong by narrow decision.

Dropping a couple of rungs in class but I offer:

Chris Eubank vs Vito Antuofermo, 160 lbs, 15 Rounds