WHICH ONE IS THE BIGGEST SHILL FOR ALI ?

WHICH ONE IS THE BIGGEST SHILL FOR ALI ?

Thomas Hauser
6
29%
Bert Sugar
3
14%
Herbert Goldman
0
No votes
Nigel Collins
0
No votes
Steve Farhood
0
No votes
Michael Katz
0
No votes
Randy Gordon
1
5%
Ferdie Pacheco
9
43%
Angelo Dundee
1
5%
Joyce Carol Oates
1
5%
 
Total votes: 21

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Post by yancey »

elmersalsa wrote:Ferdie Pacheco is the biggest cocksucker that I have ever seen in boxing. Especially, when it comes to Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard....The most painful thing about it, he's Cuban. :roll: :roll: :roll:
Could Pacheco be actually posting on BoxRec under an alias handle?

If so, any ideas on who it could be? :wink:
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Post by bollox »

A former poster named Terap :wink:
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Post by Tantum »

bollox wrote:A former poster named Terap
I agree, Terap was the biggest Ali shill this forum has ever seen.

He loved Ray Leonard almost as much as he loved Ali.

And don't get him started on Hagler and Holmes... He'd ride their sacks for hours at a time.
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Post by BoxBuzz »

mariajones wrote:Hello friends,
There are many boxer born in the world but Ali was a great boxer. Nobody biggest shill for Ali. When Ali fight the boxing that nobody won the match.
I am very big fan of Ali. He is a great player in world boxing. So my view no one is the biggest shill for Ali...
Thank you....

...and they call the "wind" mariiiia
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Post by ElginGates »

Collins2000 wrote:
ElginGates wrote:Like Bert Sugar said of him, "Trying so hard to be a man."
Imagine quoting Bert Sugar to make a point.

Had to be done mate, so sorry.

Actually Elgin, crankberry hates Bert almost as much as he hates Hauser.
Fine. Both Bert and Hauser make me puke anyway.

Hauser is not a nice guy, if he doesn't get his way he is very obnoxious, and his very presence as a "Boxing Expert" is so biazzare to me I cringe when he is brought on to tell the boxing community anything whatsoever. He is a researcher repeating what he read. Let him stand up and demonstrate how to punch or tactics or anything physical. Perhaps Oats can hold the punchmitts for him too, while he holds the heavy bag for her. They actually get paid to speak on the fine nuances of the fight game. It is absolutely insane.

Do not like Bert Sugar, he is very embarassing with his attempt at being a Damon Runyon character with the hat and cigar,
the act wears thin and it is obnoxious. Most of what he writes I disagree with and he is not the authority on boxing he thinks he is. To him Tommy Ryan is God and would have beaten any middleweight.

The character he has created with the booze, hat and cigar is one of the most corny things I have ever seen in my life and
is gut wrenching. Why hasn't someone snatched the bloody hat of his head already on camera.

Percheco truly was the most obnoxious non stop wind bag of them all though. Almost to the point of being a lunatic according to
people who worked with him behind the mike. No one knew anything but him and when they let him go he went off the deep end.
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Post by Collins2000 »

Congratulations, Elgin, you are now ready to join the club.

PM granberry to book in for your mandatory physical and full body massage.
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Post by ElginGates »

LOL.

An illustrious honor indeed. I am humbled.
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Post by boxing_fanatic_87 »

Ferdie Pacheco is the obvious choice because not only is a Ali suck-up he's also an absolute moron. I remember once on Showtime Zab Judah scoring and 3rd round knockout and he says " That's the fastest knockout in the 3rd round I've ever seen " What an idiot.
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Post by Goodnight, Irene »

Pacheco was good for the odd one-liner, though. I remember on a telecast for a Ricardo Lopez bout (was it the first outing with Alvarez, maybe?) he was talking about being the foyer of some Hotel, & said, "People mistook me for Larry Merchant. It may've been the low point of my life."

:lol:

I often wonder what Merchant, renowned for speaking his mind irrespective of consequence, would have retorted, had he been present for that one.
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Post by Goodnight, Irene »

boxing_fanatic_87 wrote:Ferdie Pacheco is the obvious choice because not only is a Ali suck-up he's also an absolute moron. I remember once on Showtime Zab Judah scoring and 3rd round knockout and he says " That's the fastest knockout in the 3rd round I've ever seen " What an idiot.
Was that against Negron?
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Post by granberry »

Flump wrote:
I had a look at a couple of Sugar era Ring magazines the other day and it was shocking at how bad some of it was, the photographic layouts were appalling and the editorials were particularly disrespectful of some fighters, coming from Bert, a man who has never taken a punch in his life as far as I know, not including bouncers throwing him out of bars at closing time of course.
Actually, Flump, bartenders and bar owners love a drunkard like Sugar, because they are in business to sell drinks, and drunks like Bert make the cash register ring.

And ring.

And ring..

Just like restaurant people love it when a fat man walks in. They are all smiles.
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Goodnight, Irene wrote: I often wonder what Merchant, renowned for speaking his mind irrespective of consequence, would have retorted, had he been present for that one.

Merchant is drugged out of his mind, with his eyes turned backwards inside his head.

He stands as the absolute pits of the slime that is attached to what has masqueraded as 'boxing' for a number of years.
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Post by ThatOne »

Ferdie knows Ali for fifty years. I would talk up my friend too. Somebody called him a "cocksucker". Before he met Ali he was running a free medical clinic in Overtown. Yeah, that sounds like something a "cocksucker" would do.
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Post by granberry »

Pacheco was and is a disgusting Ali shill.
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Post by funso banjo baby »

what does 'shill' mean ?
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Post by Collins2000 »

granberry wrote:Pacheco was and is a disgusting Ali shill.
Paddy Dolan loved to shill for his boy Buff, do you remember?
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Post by granberry »

Nigel Collins shills as hard for Ali as any of them, but no votes so far.
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Post by granberry »

How about a vote for Herbert Goldman.
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Post by fatcity69 »

Gawd Granny, Ali really got under your skin didnt he, I guess it must hurt that whatever crap you and your kind spout about Ali the mans greatness as both a fighter and a man will forever remain undimmmed for those who can see. There are people in this world who give to others whereever they go, and Ali is this kind of person. Then there are other people who are bitter and mean and cracked, who can only bitch and try and spead nagativity and misery, this is you. How sad.
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Post by granberry »

Fat City is another Religion of Ali member.
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Post by Collins2000 »

granberry wrote:Fat City is another Religion of Ali member.
Nah, mate, they are just reasonable people.................. unlike you and that fat clown Irene.
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