Any betting tips? Lorcy - Diaz looks interesting

E · Post by E » 01 Nov 2004, 12:03

Whilst the 11/2 odds for Calzaghe-Salem on points was monster and unlikely to be repeated soon (still kicking myself about not putting more on) has anyone else seen any other good value tips?

Two that caught my eye were:

Lorcy 11/2 against Diaz

at

http://www.gamebookers.com (not well-known, you get only 10% bonus on first bet)

Boxing news and Compubox both say it is likely to be a tough, close fight with Diaz the winner on pts, I thought these odds were a bit long.

That makes him a big outsider whereas I think 2-1 is a more realistic price. Not that I think Lorcy will win, but you should bet on good odds. After all Diaz is a bit unrpoven and has had a couplle of closed decisions and been dropped-he is also not a big puncher.....I know Lorcy is old and it is hard to win in the US, but he is experience and has won abroad before..

I am putting £10 on it.

Ruiz - Golota - over 10.5 rounds

5/6 (same as under 10.5 rounds)

Again not a big one, but this is a distance fight if I ever saw one...neither are good finishers and are either reasonably durable or enough of a spoiler not to get in too much trouble (and neither are good finishers.)

I'll put a tenner on it....

Anyone have any thought on Rios - Cook or other fights?

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 01 Nov 2004, 13:04

bluesq, 20-1 for the draw Golota-Ruiz

neil r · Post by **neil r** » 02 Nov 2004, 17:11

had a quck mooch round the willie hills website. their doing 4-1 williams to beat klitchko, same as ladbrokes, which is a bit better than the 7/2 on blue square. 4-1 might be worth a flutter

if you fancy the draw its 33-1 ladbrokes and blue square and 28-1 willie hills.

Empire · Post by **Empire** » 02 Nov 2004, 18:22

www.pinnaclesports.com/?refer=xboxing has great fight matchups and lowest odds. I also use Sportsbook.com, 5dimes, and aces.com. I believe they may all have the same oddsmaker. William is +375 at http://www.pinnaclesports.com/?refer=xboxing right now.

TheGoods · Post by **TheGoods** » 03 Nov 2004, 06:56

I'm with Big Daddy B re Rios. He has been in with Artur Grigorian and Stevie Johnson and was not disgraced against either. Gave Hatton a bit to think about for a while too at light-welter. Cook is a good boxer but will struggle here without "home" support (though Hereford is close enough I suppose).

Rios on points.

TheGoods · Post by **TheGoods** » 03 Nov 2004, 07:01

Oh, and Lorcy is 7/1 with bet365 for anyone who fancies a piece of the Frenchie.

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 03 Nov 2004, 08:16

I've had some of Lorcy. He's not favourite, but at those odds, he's got experience to do a job

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 03 Nov 2004, 08:26

I've never seen Juan Diaz but I'd be very, very surprised if Lorcy comes close to beating him.

Raff The Frenchman · Post by **Raff The Frenchman** » 03 Nov 2004, 08:27

Lorcy is very underrated...and unlucky...he is a great fighter with great heart, skill, and good power...his main problems was that he never had a good manager nor trainer...He always had to go abroad or have to climb high ladders to get a title shot, and when he had finally gotten his title, he barely got 2 month to recover and train again or else he would be stripped...now Lorcy is with King and has had all the time to train good...Diaz is very unexperienced compared to Lorcy...Lorcy is a great body puncher and has got a very good jab and uppercut...look for Lorcy to earn a late TKO or UD with one or two KD...

E · Post by E » 03 Nov 2004, 14:09

TheGoods wrote:I'm with Big Daddy B re Rios. He has been in with Artur Grigorian and Stevie Johnson and was not disgraced against either. Gave Hatton a bit to think about for a while too at light-welter. Cook is a good boxer but will struggle here without "home" support (though Hereford is close enough I suppose).

Rios on points.

I second that.

Raff The Frenchman · Post by **Raff The Frenchman** » 03 Nov 2004, 16:34

Kilburn wrote:I've never seen Juan Diaz but I'd be very, very surprised if Lorcy comes close to beating him.

Diaz has not a big punch, nor a big chin, he was down against Ubaldo Hernandez against whom he won a very close SD, and down again against unheraled Contreras Jr...Lorcy will knock him out

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 03 Nov 2004, 17:17

Raff The Frenchman wrote:Lorcy is very underrated...and unlucky...he is a great fighter with great heart, skill, and good power...his main problems was that he never had a good manager nor trainer...He always had to go abroad or have to climb high ladders to get a title shot, and when he had finally gotten his title, he barely got 2 month to recover and train again or else he would be stripped...now Lorcy is with King and has had all the time to train good...Diaz is very unexperienced compared to Lorcy...Lorcy is a great body puncher and has got a very good jab and uppercut...look for Lorcy to earn a late TKO or UD with one or two KD...

I'd take that post a little more seriously if your username wasn't Raff the frenchman

Raff The Frenchman · Post by **Raff The Frenchman** » 03 Nov 2004, 19:08

yes im french but i am not that biased i have a few fighters which i think are very good cause i have had the occasion to watch them fight a lot and therefore i know what they are worth! trust me Lorcy has balls !
Tiozzo is french and holds a belt...but i think he sucks and will get KOed as soon as he faces someone else than DM who is finished...

Empire · Post by **Empire** » 03 Nov 2004, 23:13

Tiozzo bout is still going or no? I dont see it listed and thought it was monday. I expect him to roll over Danny B if they do fight anyway.

Raff The Frenchman · Post by **Raff The Frenchman** » 04 Nov 2004, 05:01

nop Tiozzo injured his back and will fight Dariuzs Michaelchewski on Febuary

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 04 Nov 2004, 06:49

Diaz holds all the aces: homeground, youth, and seems to have as big a heart as Lorcy.
The Frenchman has a shot, but I reckon the Tex Mex gets home on points.

Raff The Frenchman · Post by **Raff The Frenchman** » 04 Nov 2004, 07:47

MightyWarrior wrote:Diaz holds all the aces: homeground, youth, and seems to have as big a heart as Lorcy.
The Frenchman has a shot, but I reckon the Tex Mex gets home on points.

that's why Lorcy MUST knock him out...still don't forget Lorcy is a Don King fighter now...Don King might not let one of his fighter get robbed

Empire · Post by **Empire** » 04 Nov 2004, 09:12

nop Tiozzo injured his back and will fight Dariuzs Michaelchewski on Febuary

Damn, that card was looking nice. :(

E · Post by E » 04 Nov 2004, 09:13

MightyWarrior wrote:Diaz holds all the aces: homeground, youth, and seems to have as big a heart as Lorcy.
The Frenchman has a shot, but I reckon the Tex Mex gets home on points.

I agree - I don't necessarilly think Lorcy will win, but I think he has much more chance that a 7-1 outsider.

This makes it worth a bet.

I think that even Samuel Kebede was 6-1.....

Andrey · Post by **Andrey** » 04 Nov 2004, 22:38

My $5 on Lorcy. At +700 Lorcy is worth to bet.

Raff The Frenchman · Post by **Raff The Frenchman** » 05 Nov 2004, 04:04

well Lorcy lost on points...got cut badly in the 3rd and fought well until the end but wasnt enough...

E · Post by E » 05 Nov 2004, 09:28

Raff The Frenchman wrote:well Lorcy lost on points...got cut badly in the 3rd and fought well until the end but wasnt enough...

Yes - it was definitely worth a bet at those odds, though I lost £15....it didn't expect Lorcy to win, but thought he his chances were greater than 7 to 1.