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Bout could be Cris Arreola's coming out party

The charismatic 28-year-old from Riverside is a long shot to beat Vitali Klitschko Saturday. If he wins, he could be just the kind of heavyweight champ boxing needs.

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No. 1 ranked Cristobal Arreola, left, and WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko face off at their weigh-in yesterday in Los Angeles. Their fight is scheduled to take place on Saturday. (Mark J. Terrill / Associated Press / September 25, 2009)

By Lance Pugmire

September 25, 2009

Cris Arreola's a big underdog now, just like Cassius Clay was to Sonny Liston all those years ago.

No one is yet forecasting unbeaten Arreola (27-0, 24 knockouts) as the next Muhammad Ali, but in a heavyweight division and sport looking for greater public interest, the 28-year-old from Riverside is trying to become the first heavyweight champion of Mexican ancestry.

"The only guy the general population usually knows in boxing is the heavyweight champion, or a celebrity fighter like Oscar De La Hoya or Sugar Ray Leonard," said HBO boxing analyst Larry Merchant. "I've said for years boxing needs a heavyweight version of Oscar. This is the first guy who's come along to have a shot at being that fighter."

Clearly, an Arreola victory against the taller, more experienced World Boxing Council heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko Saturday night at Staples Center is a long shot -- he's a 6-to-1 underdog at Las Vegas sports books -- that has struggled to muster interest from the Los Angeles fight-fan population. About 6,000 seats remain on sale, promoters say.

Merchant assessed the massive Latino boxing fan base as being confused by this newest representative.

"They haven't bought into him yet; they don't know what to think about him because they're used to bantamweights, featherweights and welterweights at the most," Merchant said. "A heavyweight?

"But if he wins, I guarantee you, they'll be waving the Mexican flags and chasing him through the malls."

Arreola, 28, is additionally charged with proving his manhood to the level the most demanding in the audience require. In the most recent Staples fight, for instance, Oxnard's Victor Ortiz was booed unmercifully after surrendering in a sixth-round technical knockout to an Argentinian: "You quit," ringside fans jeered to Ortiz. "You're not a Mexican!"

Arreola "may not have a great resume, but I trust my eyes," Merchant said. "My eyes tell me this guy knows how to fight. He's rough and tough. And who cares if he's been a little heavy over the years. Fernando Valenzuela didn't look like an athlete, either, but millions loved him."

"Trust me," Arreola's promoter Dan Goossen said, "with a victory, the interest in Cris goes through the roof. He wins this, he'll be the biggest story in boxing. Klitschko knew, that's why he took this fight -- not only because we were the mandatory [challenger] but because the attention on Cris is a freight train coming."

Arreola's relentless, heavy-punching style makes for an interesting contrast against the methodical Klitschko. Ukraine's "Dr. Iron Fist" (37-2, 36 KOs) is known for a studious attack that will aim to penetrate any sloppy defensive mistake Arreola may make, saying "This fight's not going the distance."

Wladimir Klitschko, Vitali's brother who'll be in his corner Saturday night, describes Arreola's style as "kill or be killed; Vitali knows it, and he's more experienced than Cris Arreola." Wladimir Klitschko said that experience, along with a more talented corner, are "stones in the water that Vitali can stand on; these are things that make the difference."

On the stage where he weighed in at 251 pounds Thursday -- one pound less than Klitschko -- Arreola also entertained with street-hardened charisma as he poked fun at his own past dietary problems, his driving record and a gloves dispute with Klitschko.

When told Klitschko was insisting that Arreola's gloves were to be weighed before the bout to eliminate any unfair tinkering, Arreola scoffed, "They can do whatever they want. We'll both wear gloves in there. A glove's a glove."

He toyed with the champ by first hiding a large weight vest under his T-shirt and "weighing in" at 272 pounds before laughing and stepping off the scale, stripping off his T-shirt and revealing the weight vest.

"The thing about it is everyone keeps [complaining] about the weight, so I decided I'm gonna have some fun with it," Arreola said off the weigh-in stage. "I wanted to make [Klitschko] believe I'm fat, and then show him, 'You know what? I'm not! I'm in shape!'

"I've worked my butt off for this fight. I've gotten here through hard work, the way you're supposed to do it."

That's the message Arreola has taken to others, visiting a downtown juvenile detention facility recently to urge youths to avoid costly mistakes in judgment and aspire for greatness.

The Times Thursday asked Arreola privately about a driving record that shows a street-racing guilty plea in his Riverside County history, along with a driving under the influence arrest in November 2005 that remains active. A Riverside County district attorney spokesman said court records show Arreola's blood-alcohol level was at and just below the legal limits in sobriety tests, and that a bench warrant was issued after he failed to appear at a 2007 court hearing. That case was then folded in with a February criminal charge of driving with a suspended license and an Oct. 16 court date awaits.

"It's just old, dumb stuff," he said. "It's something that I've learned from."

Seconds later, he told someone else, "All this stuff's," upsetting, so "I'm just going to kick [Klitschko's rear.]"

If a compelling brawl does ensue, Merchant and Wladimir Klitschko agreed in separate conversations it will be good for both fighters.

"Arreola needs that on a big stage," Merchant said.

Said Wladimir Klitschko: "If you do get beat up in a fight and come back, that is fun to watch. But you can't last forever doing that in this sport. Your life will be short, and I know both Vitali and I have plans to stay around long."

Fight notes: Last week's Floyd Mayweather-Juan Manuel Marquez welterweight bout -- won by the larger Mayweather in a one-sided unanimous decision -- generated 1 million pay-per-view buys, HBO announced. That makes Mayweather-Marquez the highest performing boxing pay-per-view event of the year, with $52 million in pay-per-view revenue, and will likely embolden Mayweather's stance to get more than a 50-50 split when his anticipated 2010 showdown with Manny Pacquiao is negotiated. HBO pay-per-view's Mark Taffet said, "Floyd Mayweather has clearly reinforced his standing as a top attraction, and fans are excited about his return to the sport." Mayweather added, "I am truly humbled by the numbers, and I appreciate all of the sports fans who either came to the fight or bought it on pay-per-view. It felt great to be back in the ring and next time I will be even better." . . . Golden Boy Promotions' executive Richard Schaefer said he's crafted a verbal deal for world welterweight champion Shane Mosley to fight Andre Berto in a title unification bout Jan. 30 at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. . . . Wladimir Klitschko said he will fight another Goossen fighter, "Fast" Eddie Chambers, in a world heavyweight title bout in March, once Wladimir Klitschko's shoulder recovers from surgery. He said he's interested in staging the fight in the U.S.

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Rick Farris wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:In June, an Englebrecht card was jeopardized when one of two ringside doctors and one of three judges failed to show.
"No one got hurt, thank goodness," Englebrecht said. "If the doctor would've had to leave with an injured fighter, I would've had to stop my show."
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When it comes down to Life & Death . . .

In 1972, I had a six-round fight at the Forum that followed an Armando Muniz knockout in the main event.
Muniz KOed his opponent in the 2nd round, and Dr. Jack Useem rode with the boxer to the hospital to be checked out.
My fight was a bloody one, I left the ring with a busted nose, cut over one eye, the other closed, and I was urinating blood in the dressing room.
I was fine, but my opponent suffered eye cuts, busted nose and a broken jaw.
It was said in the final moments of the bout his jaw was broken when I caught him with a punch as he opened his mouth to breath (too much blood in his nose)
My opponent was also complaining of dizziness and a could not walk without assistance. Where was the Doc?????

As I said, I was fine, but there was a small commotion over my opponents health. What if he'd lapsed into a coma, as we have all seen happen?
I realize I'm speaking of something that happened 37 years ago, however, care & concern of prizefighters was no better then or today than ever.

The arrogance of the CSAC is beyond belief. I have been told that the State officials will question & challenge an officials scorecards when they credit a close round to a boxer other than the "house fighter".

Do you know that Howie Steindler was murdered just a couple days after contacting a State Senator about improprieties related to the California State Athletic Commission?


-Rick Farris

Another Mel Epstein memory . . .


In the above post I recalled a bloody fight I was involved in at the Forum back in 1972.
As I mentioned, I had sustained a few memories of the fight on my face, and one was a cut above my right eye, the result of an elbow, I think?

Mel Epstein was my trainer and he was 72-years-old. At 72, Mel was more like 90.
Mel didn't have a calm nature nor could he steady his hands to wrap mine. On this night Johnny Villaflor was our second so my hands were wrapped nicely.

After the bout, Mel paid Villaflor and Johnny left the building. He then discovered that the doctor had left before my bout.
I thought the doctor was going to stitch me, would have taken about 4 or 5 stitches. But with no doctor I'm left with Mel to handle the patch job.
Sitting in front of me cursing, his angry little eyes darting left and right to see who was near by, Mel Epstein ripped off strips of white tape he'd use for a "butterfly".
I think he had used monsel solution (an illegal substance) to stop the bleeding between rounds, and was now dobbing the wound with cotton, his hands shaking the whole time.
As Mel applied the strips he tried to get them to hold the bandage in place and also sqeeze the wound shut. In other words, he didn't have a clue as what to do.
If he did know, he was unable to prove it on that night. In due course, the cut never reopened so he must have done something right.
Mel was angry that I put myself in position to get cut. "You mean by stepping into the ring tonight?" I asked.

My answer angered Mel even more, "No, by not stepping into the ring at the gym as often as you should have! You was supposed to workout with Little Red last Sunday, but were a no-show after one of your Saturday night specials with that broad."
Mel stood erect with steam coming from his ears, with his hands on his hips.

He was right, I made a fight much harder than it had to be.
I also set myself up for having to sit still in front of Mel as he attempted to patch my cut, which was tougher than the fight.
Yeah, I should trained a little harder.


-Rick Farris
Another great Mel Epstein story..... :lol:
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CLEAR OF MIND

Couple of stories on concussions and the sport of football. One was about former All Pro tackle Kyle Turley who went to school down here at San Diego State and played later with the New Orlean Saints.

He's experirncing blackouts and acting in a bizarre fashion at times. All this being attributed to concussions he sustained playing football.

The other news was on HBO Sports with Bryant Gumbel telling of high school ball players coming back "too soon" to play after sustaining a concussion.

The seriousness of these stories was intense and dramatic. Concussions with football have been stories that are making the news more often than ever before. I'm not saying they don't deserve any print,but what about the head injuries involved with boxing? There should be a lot more talk about that.

Boxing doesn't get a lot of space in the paper unless it's a "big" fight and even then, the local pro football team can put that fight under the fold if both events occurred on the same day.

For me it has always been an awkward situation when speaking to fighter that isn't the same anymore. The fighter doesn't have to be a Shakespearean king to be a tragic figure. The prelim guy and the former champs wind up the same if the cumulation of blows to head have made them not the same anymore.It hurts to see them at the expense of some idiot's joke in their condition.Joe Louis was the brunt of some of that stuuf.

Jerry Quarry's wife said after her husbands passing that as long as there are men, there will always be boxing. Leave it to a woman to see it so clearly.
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There are reports saying that the bout between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Juan Manuel Marquez drew one million PPV buys! I thought that the PPV buy totals for the bout would be a lot lower.

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The CBHOF . . .

Just a couple hours from the start of this years California Boxing Hall of Fame lunch.
The main event for me will be sitting with my Boxrec amigos.
Thanks to CBHOF V.P. Frank Baltazar for bringing us all together again. :TU:


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Rick Farris wrote:The CBHOF . . .

Just a couple hours from the start of this years California Boxing Hall of Fame lunch.
The main event for me will be sitting with my Boxrec amigos.
Thanks to CBHOF V.P. Frank Baltazar for bringing us all together again. :TU:


-Rick Farris
I want to thank you guys for coming to the luncheon. Sorry that I was not able to get together and talk to you guys more.
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CBHOF...9-26-2009

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I think the lady just said no to Don Fraser... :witzend:
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kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:The CBHOF . . .

Just a couple hours from the start of this years California Boxing Hall of Fame lunch.
The main event for me will be sitting with my Boxrec amigos.
Thanks to CBHOF V.P. Frank Baltazar for bringing us all together again. :TU:


-Rick Farris
I want to thank you guys for coming to the luncheon. Sorry that I was not able to get together and talk to you guys more.

Frank . . . That was a GREAT event!
Best, of course, was being with our Boxrec pals, but also some very old friends, people I knew when I was a kid.
As for you not having time to visit much? I completely understand.
The guys who were at last year's WBHOF banquet will tell you that's what happened with me.
You were a good host. And it was good to see your family.

That's how the whole event felt to me, like family. It can really take you back.
Considering that over 600 people packed Steven's Steak House, their was a certain intimacy about the event. A lot of love and respect.
I'm glad Armando Muniz was near me, because it allowed me to make a point.
This is how to stage an event, you must learn from those who know to do it right.

Congratulations on another successful CBHOF event, and thanks for inviting us.
By the way, had a great talk with Orlando De La Fuente, and Tony Cerda, father & son. I hadn't seen Tony Jr. since the Jr. GG's. more than 40 years ago.


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kikibalt wrote:CBHOF...9-26-2009

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I think the lady just said no to Don Fraser... :witzend:


:lol: That's Norma Silvani, widow of legendary cutman Al Silvani.


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Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:CBHOF...9-26-2009

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I think the lady just said no to Don Fraser... :witzend:


:lol: That's Norma Silvani, widow of Hall of Fame cutman Al Silvani.


-Rick Farris
Thanks Rick, that who I thought it was, but wasn't sure, Don always talking about her... :TU:
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CBHOF BANQUET Rick Farris and Randy De La O

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My wife Maria and Jeri De La O

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L. To R. Vince Delgado,Frank Baltazar,Rick Farris,Mando Muniz



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Proud and happy Baltazar family.
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CBHOF--9-26-09

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Roger and Maria Esty
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CBHOF 9-26-09

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Rick Farris and Randy De La O
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CBHOF 9026-09

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The Cerda's, Tony Jr. and Tony Sr.
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dagosd2000 wrote:Image

Proud and happy Baltazar family.
The lady with Frankie, Connie and I, is Mrs. Tony Cerda Sr., But, I can't, for the life of me remember her name... :witzend: , hadn't see her in 35-40 years...
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CBHOF 9-26-09

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Jesus Pimentel, Rick Farris and Vince Delgado
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YOU CAN'T TELL THE FIGHTERS WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE BROKEN NOSES

Being with fighters is like blending in with the wall. If you didn't know any better you would think you're in an elevator with a full load of passengers. Let me put it simply. Fighters are so unassuming(to use Randy De La O's adjective),you wouldn't know that these guys made their living as modern gladiators. They're standup guys. Modest to a point,but straight forward to that point at the same time. No pretentions. Down to earth grounded with politeness,but with a record of standing alone half naked in a ring testing their manhood fighting another man. Oh they do it for the money,but it's a real macho test anyway you look at it.

You don't have to be in the Ring Record Book to hang out with them. They're the most approachable athletes around. They don't whine about not getting enough attention. They got a gravitation of all sorts when they fought. Some characters that wanted to cash in on their fame and money. Those thieves were better any pick pockets on earth.

At the boxing banquets they're fans that gather around still. Aside from the creeps that want to get the fighters' autographs to sell on EBAY,the genuine boxing fan will have their old heros to rub shoulders with.

Sometimes the old pugs have changed appearances. The toll of the sport has rearranged their outsides and sometimes what is underneath their skins. If you've lost touch with them,often you can't tell who they are. I guess you have to look for the broken noses.
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Before I forget, I want to thank Frank Baltazar publicly for comping me and the wife today. Take this to the bank. Maria has the time of her life at these gatherings. On the way home she asked me when was the WBHOF Banquet. Maria hates sports and doesn't like going with me when I attend functions with my football pals.

Maria's strength is her instincts of other people. Today I'd glance at her. She would hit me in the ribs.
"There's Mando."
"There's Gato."
"There's Frank."
God bless her. God bless the fighters. Looking forward to October 24th at the Marriot Hotel.
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dagosd2000 wrote:Before I forget, I want to thank Frank Baltazar publicly for comping me and the wife today. Take this to the bank. Maria has the time of her life at these gatherings. On the way home she asked me when was the WBHOF Banquet. Maria hates sports and doesn't like going with me when I attend functions with my football pals.

Maria's strength is her instincts of other people. Today I'd glance at her. She would hit me in the ribs.
"There's Mando."
"There's Gato."
"There's Frank."
God bless her. God bless the fighters. Looking forward to October 24th at the Marriot Hotel.
Thank you Roger. We must also not forget to thank Tom Ray, as one of my two tables was bought by Tom. (James J Jeffries) Thank you Tom.... :bow:
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Frank, with all sincerity my friend, thank you for including Jeri and I, as well as Ed and his son Patrick. It was truly appreciated. I truly love the sport of Boxing and to be able to sit and eat and mingle with some of the best, ....well, all I can say is thank you. I enjoyed spending time with my pals. Jeri had a great time, we both did.

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kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:Before I forget, I want to thank Frank Baltazar publicly for comping me and the wife today. Take this to the bank. Maria has the time of her life at these gatherings. On the way home she asked me when was the WBHOF Banquet. Maria hates sports and doesn't like going with me when I attend functions with my football pals.

Maria's strength is her instincts of other people. Today I'd glance at her. She would hit me in the ribs.
"There's Mando."
"There's Gato."
"There's Frank."
God bless her. God bless the fighters. Looking forward to October 24th at the Marriot Hotel.
Thank you Roger. We must also not forget to thank Tom Ray, as one of my two tables was bought by Tom. (James J Jeffries) Thank you Tom.... :bow:
Thank you Tom :bow: :bow:
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Randyman wrote:Frank, with all sincerity my friend, thank you for including Jeri and I, as well as Ed and his son Patrick. It was truly appreciated. I truly love the sport of Boxing and to be able to sit and eat and mingle with some of the best, ....well, all I can say is thank you. I enjoyed spending time with my pals. Jeri had a great time, we both did.

Randy :TU:
Thnak you for your kind words, Randy....
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