In my opinion Reid 'lost' because the referee was bribed (money and whores) by Ottke's promoters, and basically did not allow him to box.BubiScholz wrote:so you think he pissed blood because of clean head shots? funny007 wrote:BubiScholz wrote: Reid was boxing fornicating unfair so the ref and the judges punished him. Ottke was pissing blood because of his unfair punches in the (Nieren). sorry i don´'t know the english word.
Come on stop being so blinkered. Reid was being warned for just about anything including landing clean right hands to the head. The referee was absolutely inept. Reid was not boxing unfairly that is the most ridiculous statement i have seen on boxrec for a long time. Ottke was being unsportsmanlike by whining to the referee about nothing as he did a lot later in his career. Reid won the fight and without the referee warnings would prob have knocked him out as he wouldnt have been worried about being DQ'd for perfectly clean punches.![]()
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BubiScholz
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jup and you believe in Santa ClausFlawedGenius wrote:In my opinion Reid 'lost' because the referee was bribed (money and whores) by Ottke's promoters, and basically did not allow him to box.BubiScholz wrote:so you think he pissed blood because of clean head shots? funny007 wrote:
Come on stop being so blinkered. Reid was being warned for just about anything including landing clean right hands to the head. The referee was absolutely inept. Reid was not boxing unfairly that is the most ridiculous statement i have seen on boxrec for a long time. Ottke was being unsportsmanlike by whining to the referee about nothing as he did a lot later in his career. Reid won the fight and without the referee warnings would prob have knocked him out as he wouldnt have been worried about being DQ'd for perfectly clean punches.![]()
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Jeez Bubi. You actually believe that Ottke won the Reid fight fair and square? You should be sectioned.
That fight was probably the worst thing i've ever seen in the ring. The ref was clearly paid off (i can't be sued if i speak the truth), and i'm pretty sure that the judges were in someone's pocket as well. Reid was warned several times after landing legimate punches, and Ottke milked every little supposed indiscretion to it's full potential. From the halfway stage you can see that Reid had given up because he knew he wasn't going to win no matter what he did. My feeling is that if he'd have landed the perfect punch, and knocked Ottke out (which i must confess, i was really hoping for), then he would have been DQ'd.
You can swallow the spin and you can dress the fight up however you want. But the fact is that fight was fixed. As i'm sure some of Ottke's other "victories" were.
That fight was probably the worst thing i've ever seen in the ring. The ref was clearly paid off (i can't be sued if i speak the truth), and i'm pretty sure that the judges were in someone's pocket as well. Reid was warned several times after landing legimate punches, and Ottke milked every little supposed indiscretion to it's full potential. From the halfway stage you can see that Reid had given up because he knew he wasn't going to win no matter what he did. My feeling is that if he'd have landed the perfect punch, and knocked Ottke out (which i must confess, i was really hoping for), then he would have been DQ'd.
You can swallow the spin and you can dress the fight up however you want. But the fact is that fight was fixed. As i'm sure some of Ottke's other "victories" were.
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