British Top 30 P4P October 2009

[Horse]

1. (1.) Ricky Hatton
2. (2.) Carl Froch
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Amir Khan
5. (6.) Clinton Woods
6. (7.) Junior Witter
7. (8.) Jamie Moore
8. (5.) Bernard Dunne (Irish)
9. (9.) Rendall Munroe
10. (16.) Matthew Macklin

11. (10.) Nicky Cook
12. (11.) Kell Brook
13. (12.) Alex Arthur
14. (13.) Kevin Mitchell
15. (14.) Ian Napa
16. (17.) Martin Lindsay (Irish)
17. (18.) Darren Barker
18. (19.) John Murray
19. (20.) Nathan Cleverly
20. (21.) Anthony Small

21. (22.) Ajose Olusegan
22. (23.) Enzo Maccarinelli
23. (24.) Jason Booth
24. (RE.) John Simpson
25. (25.) Sam Sexton
26. (26.) Martin Rogan (Irish)
27. (27.) John Duddy (Irish)
28. (28.) Gavin Rees
29. (29.) Ryan Rhodes
30. (30.) Paul McCloskey (Irish)

Out - (15.) Matt Skelton

[Horse]

Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.

[iwz678]

how is Macklin only #10 and Bernard Dunne #8 after what's happened of late?

Why is Woods in the list isnt he done with Boxing now?

[15829]

if its like calzaghie woods will be on there for about 6 months

[Rixxy]

i know it gets mentioned every month, but why is nathan cleverly in 19th place. I would have him in or around the top ten

[15829]

i know it gets mentioned every month, but why is nathan cleverly in 19th place. I would have him in or around the top ten

i agree and i think Paul McCloskey should be atleast be in the top 20

[Tommy Gunn13]

Why has Kell Brook dropped a place????

[alexpaterson]

I'd have O'Donnell in the top 30 also Booth higher than Enzo and Brook a little lower as he hasnt fought great fighters if he beats Jennings then he deserves a top 15 spot but until then I think he's too high

Good list though

[Horse]

how is Macklin only #10 and Bernard Dunne #8 after what's happened of late?

Macklin rose 6 places and entered the top 10 after his win over Asikainen. I thought that was quite a generous reward for his win.

Dunne fell 3 places after his loss to Kratingdaenggym. Considering that his opponent was a top 10 world ranked fighter, I thought that I shouldn't drop him too far down the list.

Why is Woods in the list isnt he done with Boxing now?

Woods's last fight was only about a month ago, so I still consider him an active fighter.

[mickey1975]

if ever someone was going to retire,and mean it,its woods.

[Horse]

i know it gets mentioned every month, but why is nathan cleverly in 19th place. I would have him in or around the top ten

I think a place in the top 10 is too high for Cleverly at the moment, as he has not faced a world or European class fighter yet.

Cleverly is fighting Fry this month, if he wins that then he will probably be in the top 15. If he is to enter the top 10 then he will probably have to win the European title or do something better.

[leforge]

Woods has retired surely remove him!

[Horse]

i agree and i think Paul McCloskey should be atleast be in the top 20

Paul McCloskey has only beaten Dean Harrison so far this year, which is only a decent win. McCloskey should perhaps be higher based on his fights from 2008, but because of his inactivity he probably shouldn't be in the top 20 at the moment.

If McCloskey beats M'baye in November then he will most likely enter then top 20.

[Horse]

Why has Kell Brook dropped a place????

Brook dropped a place because Macklin overtook him following his win over against Asikainen.

[15829]

how come nicky cook is still 11th

[brian13]

Do not move Munroe and Dunne other than that the ratings are good but mc closkey is a definitely in the top 25 regardless of activity in 2009

[Horse]

I'd have O'Donnell in the top 30 also Booth higher than Enzo and Brook a little lower as he hasnt fought great fighters if he beats Jennings then he deserves a top 15 spot but until then I think he's too high

Good list though

I didn't think that beating Glover was a good enough win for me to enter O'Donnell into the list. If he beats Kotey in December then I think he has a good chance of entering the list.

Booth has looked good recently, but his opposition has not been of the best quality. I wouldn't say that you are wrong to think Booth should be ahead of Maccarinelli, but Maccarinelli has been a World champion recently and I think that he would have been beating a P4P equivalent of Booth's opposition rather easily. However, Hunter is a step up in recent opposition level for Booth and if he wins that then he will climb a few places above Maccarinelli.

I don't think Brook has fought the best level of opposition either, but he has recently been beating decent fighters rather easily in his British title fights and I have rewarded him for that.

[whiskey]

Agreed. Hatton at no1 - 2 weight champion, lots of former and reigning champs on his record. 2 losses from p4p no1's.

I'd consider Haye above Froch on account of him winning 3 titles at cruiserweight.

That said, Pascal & Taylor are/still more regarded fighters than Mormeck & Enzo.

Perhaps tie them in 2nd place.

The rest i can see a case for or against, but i thought Rogan would be higher on account of the manner of his loss, plus the fact he did the business against Audley and Skelton whom are up their at the domestic top.

I cant figure out your obsession with Alex Arthur though... he aint done jack ever.

[Horse]

if ever someone was going to retire,and mean it,its woods.

Yes, he probably means it. I will still wait a few months though.

[Horse]

Woods has retired surely remove him!

Why must retired fighters be moved out of rankings straight away?

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

1. (1.) Ricky Hatton
2. (2.) Carl Froch
3. (3.) David Haye

- Top-o-the list looks almost a year out of date.

Ricky retired and Haye to be going plop-plop on the canvas after Valuev chews him up and ejects him.

Froch is first rate, first class and rightly undefeated. Brits never get behind their best. The guy outboxed the undefeated future LH champ of the world down the stretch. Then he banged the seven sausages out of the fighter who sent Mr. Pops fleeing the middle division for the oldtimer's LH retirement division.

Finally, Fury the best heavy of the lot would've cleared out the prizefighter tourney if he could be bothered with such small potatoes and lists. The King is still King whether he be in swaddling cloth or fully arrayed in royal finery overseeing all from his throne, so don't you gents forget it.

[Horse]

how come nicky cook is still 11th

Nicky Cook was ranked 10th last month, so he has fallen one place this month.

Cook was the WBO champion just over 6 months ago, so he is still ranked quite high up in the rankings because of that.

[Horse]

Do not move Munroe and Dunne other than that the ratings are good but mc closkey is a definitely in the top 25 regardless of activity in 2009

I am not sure what you mean about not moving Munroe and Dunne. Do you think I should have moved Dunne down more places?

If McCloskey beats M'baye then I will be able to rank him a lot higher than he is currently ranked.

[Horse]

Agreed. Hatton at no1 - 2 weight champion, lots of former and reigning champs on his record. 2 losses from p4p no1's.

I'd consider Haye above Froch on account of him winning 3 titles at cruiserweight.

That said, Pascal & Taylor are/still more regarded fighters than Mormeck & Enzo.

Perhaps tie them in 2nd place.

I think Froch's wins are better as well as being more recent. If Haye beats Valuev then he will most likely go above Froch.

The rest i can see a case for or against, but i thought Rogan would be higher on account of the manner of his loss, plus the fact he did the business against Audley and Skelton whom are up their at the domestic top.

He did look poor against Sexton though, and I don't consider Sexton to be very good.

I cant figure out your obsession with Alex Arthur though... he aint done jack ever.

Arthur has won the British, Commonwealth, European and WBO titles. He hasn't done much recently though, so he is likely to fall rather quickly down the list in the next few months.

[slapbangwhallop]

McCloskey should be top 15 in my mind