Who ate all the pies?

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 06 Nov 2004, 20:05

Evidently, according to the updated Boxrec ratings system, it is the British fighters.

Examples,

James Hare - Light Middleweight.

Gilbert Eastman - Super Middleweight.

Rocky Dean (carrier highest weight of 129 lbs) = Lightweight (130-135 lbs).

and countless others, I will make a comment on the designed thread in the general forum. However, I thought I'd make you guys aware of it aswell.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 07 Nov 2004, 10:57

Did you see Hatton on Sky this morning?... looking very porky, ...I have to lagh when he talks about his nutritionist.... probably the local kebabshop!.

Foggy · Post by **Foggy** » 08 Nov 2004, 09:05

silkov wrote:Did you see Hatton on Sky this morning?... looking very porky, ...I have to lagh when he talks about his nutritionist.... probably the local kebabshop!.

J · Post by J » 08 Nov 2004, 09:16

bollox, i dont think he looked that porky at all.

compare it to when he fought vilches and was commentating on the Pacman Marquez fight, you just look for a excuse to pan Hatotn for no reason, he didnt look fighting weight but you wouldnt expect that five weeks before a fight but he didnt look like Jimmy five bellies as he did for the vilches fight.

he looked pretty much as Id expect to be honest in regards to his weight which is about time I agree but dont just make crass comments uneducated for the sake of it.

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 08 Nov 2004, 09:51

J wrote:bollox, i dont think he looked that porky at all.

compare it to when he fought vilches and was commentating on the Pacman Marquez fight, you just look for a excuse to pan Hatotn for no reason, he didnt look fighting weight but you wouldnt expect that five weeks before a fight but he didnt look like Jimmy five bellies as he did for the vilches fight.

he looked pretty much as Id expect to be honest in regards to his weight which is about time I agree but dont just make crass comments uneducated for the sake of it.

You seem to be in love with Hatton?

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 08 Nov 2004, 10:26

J wrote:bollox, i dont think he looked that porky at all.

compare it to when he fought vilches and was commentating on the Pacman Marquez fight, you just look for a excuse to pan Hatotn for no reason, he didnt look fighting weight but you wouldnt expect that five weeks before a fight but he didnt look like Jimmy five bellies as he did for the vilches fight.

he looked pretty much as Id expect to be honest in regards to his weight which is about time I agree but dont just make crass comments uneducated for the sake of it.

I'm not making crass comments just for the sake of it J, I'm just stating my opinion that Hatton looked heavy. I agree I've seen him look even heavier but he still looked a bit bloated to me and there are plenty of fighters who do not let themselves get out of shape like that between fights. At the end of the day I'm entitled to my opinion and you should know by now I don't say things just to have a dig at someone... that is what I think and I stand by it!.... if you disagree fine thats your opinion but don't tell me my motives for saying things as I don't say things just for effect or to have a dig at someone. 8)

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 08 Nov 2004, 10:30

J wrote:bollox, i dont think he looked that porky at all.

compare it to when he fought vilches and was commentating on the Pacman Marquez fight, you just look for a excuse to pan Hatotn for no reason, he didnt look fighting weight but you wouldnt expect that five weeks before a fight but he didnt look like Jimmy five bellies as he did for the vilches fight.

he looked pretty much as Id expect to be honest in regards to his weight which is about time I agree but dont just make crass comments uneducated for the sake of it.

And as for my comment being uneducated thats a bit of a crass statement on your part!... does someone having an opinion different to yours make them uneducated???.

:x

J · Post by J » 08 Nov 2004, 10:47

to be honest im sick and tired of people just having a dig for no reason, he isnt a bad lad is a good boxer and all people seem to do on here is ridicule him. Whther its deserved or not, Ive made my feelingfs known about this for some time.
So are you all gonna put threads saying SORRY WE WERE WRONG when he does fight for the title away from home?

Lirva Ill treat you comment with the contempt it deserves you hate hatton so ...guess we are all sqaure then.

I just thought Hatotn looked in pretty good nick for five weeks prior to a fight and the kebab shop comment was indeed crass, if I offended you by calling the comment undeducated well tough, cos it is, you dunno how much he weighs do you? So he looks better than he did for Vliches when he made the weight so this implies he will probably be in even better nick then for oliveira. (well that and the fact that the vilches fight had to be delayed for week for starters) he actually did that sky pundit job 4 weeks prior as I rember looking at him thinking he aint gonnna shift that many chins in 3 week *4 wqith the dealy that later transpired).
to me he looked reasonable for 5 wreeks to go. Certainly not worthy of defammatory remarks.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 08 Nov 2004, 10:55

Well he was 10 stone last month (because he fought Stewart). I think he looked okay, if it was the first time I had seen Hatton on these Sunday Morning shows I would have been a tad concerned, but I'm starting to think he is the type of person who always looks "big" in suits.

He's a 25 year old lad, you simply cannot put a load of weight on in a month - even if he did no training and was in the pub every week.

When he was in the studio for Marquez vs Pacquiao he'd had a long break and looked alot more rounded than he did on Sunday.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 08 Nov 2004, 11:11

Bearing in mind that Hatton generally boils down to make weight, it's no surprise if he looks beefier.

Look at him on weigh-in day compared to fight day, and he is noticably less cut than the day before, so a lot of that extra bulk is water. Hatton isn't a naturally lean person, you can see that just by looking at his body type. This means between fights he will look more out of shape than he is. I agree that on some occasions he has looked very out of shape though.

steve richards · Post by **steve richards** » 08 Nov 2004, 11:25

Hatton will always be big inbetween fights but he works with kerry kays 8 weeks prior to fighting and is always spot on the limit, since hatton has been working with kays his skin has looked alot better and has(i dont think) been cut, in my opinion all fighters should be within a stone or so of there fighting weight all the time, some people can put on 2 even 3 stone in between fights.

J · Post by J » 08 Nov 2004, 11:41

i dont think he looked that heavy though as Stu /Steve points out he is probably just starting training it coudl be a good sign perhaps he is leanring not to balloon too much.

Still stand by your comments were NOT crass and uneducated?

sorry being a bit of an asshole here but I dont mean to be unkind to you, I just dont think you know what your on about in this instance

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 08 Nov 2004, 11:49

steve richards wrote:Hatton will always be big inbetween fights but he works with kerry kays 8 weeks prior to fighting and is always spot on the limit, since hatton has been working with kays his skin has looked alot better and has(i dont think) been cut, in my opinion all fighters should be within a stone or so of there fighting weight all the time, some people can put on 2 even 3 stone in between fights.

When did he start working with Kays. He was cut quite badly in the Phillips fight. I've often heard it said that dehydrated fighters cut more easily.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 08 Nov 2004, 11:51

J wrote:i dont think he looked that heavy though as Stu /Steve points out he is probably just starting training it coudl be a good sign perhaps he is leanring not to balloon too much.

Still stand by your comments were NOT crass and uneducated?

sorry being a bit of an asshole here but I dont mean to be unkind to you, I just dont think you know what your on about

I think not J. Hatton will never fight abroad and never face anyone oif real note... all this talk of him fighting Tysu is balls! just like his imminent showdone with witter that never happened! remember Hatton saying on sky about 18 months ago that a witter fight was going to happen!!!!.
He may be an ok lad but the truth is that he is making a lot of noise yet still fighting 30 plus lightweights! and you think the critcism of him is unfair!!!. Hatton has become a joke to many people look through the threads foir public opinion on Hatton... people are fed up seeing him fight oldmen and smaller weight fighters!.
Added to that the guy can't even stay in decent shape between fights!.... what a chump!

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 08 Nov 2004, 11:53

silkov wrote:
J wrote:i dont think he looked that heavy though as Stu /Steve points out he is probably just starting training it coudl be a good sign perhaps he is leanring not to balloon too much.

Still stand by your comments were NOT crass and uneducated?

sorry being a bit of an asshole here but I dont mean to be unkind to you, I just dont think you know what your on about
I think not J. Hatton will never fight abroad and never face anyone oif real note... all this talk of him fighting Tysu is balls! just like his imminent showdone with witter that never happened! remember Hatton saying on sky about 18 months ago that a witter fight was going to happen!!!!.
He may be an ok lad but the truth is that he is making a lot of noise yet still fighting 30 plus lightweights! and you think the critcism of him is unfair!!!. Hatton has become a joke to many people look through the threads foir public opinion on Hatton... people are fed up seeing him fight oldmen and smaller weight fighters!.
Added to that the guy can't even stay in decent shape between fights!.... what a chump!

Agreed.

With the way Hatton has gone about his career and the type of person he's shown himself to be time and time again, it's a wonder that people can come onto a message board and not expect Hatton to be rightfully called a joke.

Marvellous post. Top class.

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 08 Nov 2004, 11:55

Yep, when you're dehydrated the layer of water next to your skin dries up, so there's less give and less flexibility, hence cutting and tearing is easier.

Hatton's also got that big old jaw and when he leans back in his chair with his collars tight he naturally looks like one of those lizards with the expanding necks. He's also got quite deep-set eyes and thick features which also give the impression of pudginess.

The guy's a pro boxer who's big for his weight - he's just not going to be piling on the lard if he's got any common sense (and I think he has).

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 08 Nov 2004, 12:02

To be fair Hatton looked just about as fit as he ever has last time against Stewart. We can question his desire to really test himself until the cows come home, but surely not the way he looks after himself inbetween contests.

After 37 fights I think the lad knows what he's doing.

J · Post by J » 08 Nov 2004, 12:11

silkov wrote:
J wrote:i dont think he looked that heavy though as Stu /Steve points out he is probably just starting training it coudl be a good sign perhaps he is leanring not to balloon too much.

Still stand by your comments were NOT crass and uneducated?

sorry being a bit of an asshole here but I dont mean to be unkind to you, I just dont think you know what your on about
I think not J. Hatton will never fight abroad and never face anyone oif real note... all this talk of him fighting Tysu is balls! just like his imminent showdone with witter that never happened! remember Hatton saying on sky about 18 months ago that a witter fight was going to happen!!!!.
He may be an ok lad but the truth is that he is making a lot of noise yet still fighting 30 plus lightweights! and you think the critcism of him is unfair!!!. Hatton has become a joke to many people look through the threads foir public opinion on Hatton... people are fed up seeing him fight oldmen and smaller weight fighters!.
Added to that the guy can't even stay in decent shape between fights!.... what a chump!

WE KNOW WHAT YOU AND LIRVA THINK. every time anyone posts a bloody thread on anything it turns into a freakin hatton slating session.

my whole argument on this point was you were makingf stupid comments on an issue that 1. was wrong he is in decent shape and 2. had nothing to do with hatton in the first place.

As boring as you may find hattons career its totally surpassed in tedium terms by the amount of times Hatton gets an unwarrented critcism, that is mega boring and thats what Im taking issue with.

Criticise him if he deserves it by all means but cheap shots like the above unwarranted and untrue, well save em for your mates down the pub..

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 08 Nov 2004, 21:45

J wrote:
silkov wrote:
J wrote:i dont think he looked that heavy though as Stu /Steve points out he is probably just starting training it coudl be a good sign perhaps he is leanring not to balloon too much.

Still stand by your comments were NOT crass and uneducated?

sorry being a bit of an asshole here but I dont mean to be unkind to you, I just dont think you know what your on about
I think not J. Hatton will never fight abroad and never face anyone oif real note... all this talk of him fighting Tysu is balls! just like his imminent showdone with witter that never happened! remember Hatton saying on sky about 18 months ago that a witter fight was going to happen!!!!.
He may be an ok lad but the truth is that he is making a lot of noise yet still fighting 30 plus lightweights! and you think the critcism of him is unfair!!!. Hatton has become a joke to many people look through the threads foir public opinion on Hatton... people are fed up seeing him fight oldmen and smaller weight fighters!.
Added to that the guy can't even stay in decent shape between fights!.... what a chump!

WE KNOW WHAT YOU AND LIRVA THINK. every time anyone posts a bloody thread on anything it turns into a freakin hatton slating session.

my whole argument on this point was you were makingf stupid comments on an issue that 1. was wrong he is in decent shape and 2. had nothing to do with hatton in the first place.

As boring as you may find hattons career its totally surpassed in tedium terms by the amount of times Hatton gets an unwarrented critcism, that is mega boring and thats what Im taking issue with.

Criticise him if he deserves it by all means but cheap shots like the above unwarranted and untrue, well save em for your mates down the pub..

J you're talking rubbish mate! why are you so rattled by my opinion if my comments are so stupid?. You can't argue your case without stooping to playground insults so you are not worth talking to mate!.

J · Post by J » 09 Nov 2004, 06:46

sorry at what point do I insult you,
best make up for that you twat hahaah

no Im not rattled at all mate, Im just taking issue with what is becoming increasingly boring, constant slagging of hatton for no good reason, never has a British fighter taken so much fornicating stick its gettIng ridiculous. You stated he4 looked porkey, everyone else seems to think he looks in good shape, you go figure, if anyone is stooping to childish playdround insults its you about hatton.

oh and for the record you couldnt rattle me if you tried.

don't call it a comeback · Post by **don't call it a comeback** » 09 Nov 2004, 07:05

silkov wrote:Did you see Hatton on Sky this morning?... looking very porky, ...I have to lagh when he talks about his nutritionist.... probably the local kebabshop!.

Disagree totally. Hatton is looking fine to my eyes for where he should be in relation to his weight for a December fight.

J · Post by J » 09 Nov 2004, 07:36

thank you.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 09 Nov 2004, 11:37

don't call it a comeback wrote:
silkov wrote:Did you see Hatton on Sky this morning?... looking very porky, ...I have to lagh when he talks about his nutritionist.... probably the local kebabshop!.
Disagree totally. Hatton is looking fine to my eyes for where he should be in relation to his weight for a December fight.

Another Hatton troll!... 8)

J · Post by J » 09 Nov 2004, 11:48

grrrrrrrr :x

:)

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 09 Nov 2004, 11:53

J wrote:grrrrrrrr :x :)

See!

:x :( told you you were rattled! 8) 8)