Paul Briggs vs. Thomas Ulrich for the WBC-title Light Heavy

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 10 Nov 2004, 08:16

after the WBC stripped Tarver the title off, a fight between #1 and #2 will be expected. Another german World Champion !?!?!

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 10 Nov 2004, 08:19

interesting one, Either one could stop the other.
Ulrich the better boxer but i feel he lacks a bit of mental strength and if he finds himself taking heavy shots he may crumble

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 10 Nov 2004, 08:21

knockout wrote:interesting one, Either one could stop the other.
Ulrich the better boxer but i feel he lacks a bit of mental strength and if he finds himself taking heavy shots he may crumble

I dont really know if he is the better boxer, he was loosing to Branco.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 10 Nov 2004, 08:22

I think it's a shame that their titles are being stripped, the two men are a natural to face one another. Fair play to them, they are taking one another on, and I think the winner deserves to be called the best in the division, at least for now.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 10 Nov 2004, 08:25

I'm glad they both gave up their titles. Tarver will surely move up once he deals with Johnson anyway.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 10 Nov 2004, 08:34

I actually doubt it will be Ulrich or the #3 ranked (forgot his name). It will probably be the #4 ranked Adamek the will fight Briggs. Why you ask? They are both Don King boxers.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 10 Nov 2004, 08:38

Freiheit wrote:
knockout wrote:interesting one, Either one could stop the other.
Ulrich the better boxer but i feel he lacks a bit of mental strength and if he finds himself taking heavy shots he may crumble
I dont really know if he is the better boxer, he was loosing to Branco.

yeah but Branco is a better boxer than Ulrich AND Briggs, very awkward style

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 10 Nov 2004, 08:43

Freiheit wrote:I actually doubt it will be Ulrich or the #3 ranked (forgot his name). It will probably be the #4 ranked Adamek the will fight Briggs. Why you ask? They are both Don King boxers.

good point, Ulrich is highly ranked by the other organisations....
WBA number 3, if tiozzo beats D-Man (unlikely) he could be next???

IBF number 4, could be inline for Hoye V Woods winner if that happens.

WBO number 1, wont fight his team mate Erdei I guess, but should Erdei lose anytime soon, you know that Ulrich will get first shot at the guy

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 10 Nov 2004, 09:16

Universum has it on their homepage. so i think that there is something behind it. maybe there are already negotiattions. Kohl was in the US. Woods would be no problem for Thomas, but why should he fight him? the direct way for a title bout would be easier. WBO is irrealistic because i don´t see anybody in this division (maybe except Tarver) who can beat Erdei.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 10 Nov 2004, 09:27

Kilburn wrote:I'm glad they both gave up their titles. Tarver will surely move up once he deals with Johnson anyway.

I don't think he's gonna deal with Johnson. Unless he knocks him out, I think Johnson is going to outpoint him.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 10 Nov 2004, 09:46

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Kilburn wrote:I'm glad they both gave up their titles. Tarver will surely move up once he deals with Johnson anyway.
I don't think he's gonna deal with Johnson. Unless he knocks him out, I think Johnson is going to outpoint him.

Tarver needs some tips from good old Svennie...

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 10 Nov 2004, 09:54

What, stage the fight in his own living room and have his daughter's referee and judge the fight?

Only kidding, before you start Bubbi...breathe.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 10 Nov 2004, 10:00

it will be time that they bring him into the Hall of Fame

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 10 Nov 2004, 10:25

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Kilburn wrote:I'm glad they both gave up their titles. Tarver will surely move up once he deals with Johnson anyway.
I don't think he's gonna deal with Johnson. Unless he knocks him out, I think Johnson is going to outpoint him.

Maybe James. But personally I don't expect Tarver to be unduly flustered by Johnsons workrate. The real quality, hard punches will all be coming from Tarver. This is what I predict will win the rounds for him. Of course it'll be no walk in the park though.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 10 Nov 2004, 10:32

i don´t rate Johnson that high like almost all of my british friends. so i would see a KO from Tarver or a 12 rounder by PTS for Tarver. Johnson is good boxer but not top world class in this division.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 10 Nov 2004, 10:44

Lest we forget, Tarver lost to Richard Hall before he got his shot at Jones Jr. Johnson is also not that easy to tag with a clean shot, I think Tarver may have the guns to stop him, but Johnson's only ever been stopped once in his career, and that was a real dismantling by B-hop.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 10 Nov 2004, 10:45

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Lest we forget, Tarver lost to Richard Hall before he got his shot at Jones Jr. Johnson is also not that easy to tag with a clean shot, I think Tarver may have the guns to stop him, but Johnson's only ever been stopped once in his career, and that was a real dismantling by B-hop.

have you seen the Hopkins V Johnson fight???? I have never seen it. Always assumed it was a wear down job on a tight at the weight Johnson?!?!

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 10 Nov 2004, 10:58

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Lest we forget, Tarver lost to Richard Hall before he got his shot at Jones Jr. Johnson is also not that easy to tag with a clean shot, I think Tarver may have the guns to stop him, but Johnson's only ever been stopped once in his career, and that was a real dismantling by B-hop.

and Johnson lost to our friend Sven......

Tarver has maybe good stamina and a good KO punch. Johnson is just a good boxer. IMO Erdei would beat them both.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 10 Nov 2004, 10:59

I just don't go along with the idea that Tarver can only beat Johnson by stopping him. Johnson is a great old warrior who can work all night, but he misses a lot and his punches aren't exactly dynamite at top level anyway.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 10 Nov 2004, 11:12

Kilburn wrote:I just don't go along with the idea that Tarver can only beat Johnson by stopping him. Johnson is a great old warrior who can work all night, but he misses a lot and his punches aren't exactly dynamite at top level anyway.

yes, Johnson is overestimated and is not the MAN in this division.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 11 Dec 2004, 06:04

[quote="jamesmcdonnell"]Lest we forget, Tarver lost to Richard Hall before he got his shot at Jones Jr.[quote]

Wasn't it Eric Harding he lost too? Anyway i would welcome Briggs V Ulrich but i tip Briggs to stop him, a fight i would watch would be Briggs-Hoye, Hoye i expect will beat Woods anyway so it could be on the cards sometime soon.