Primetime Bunce

Buncey · Post by **Buncey** » 12 Oct 2009, 08:19

OK, here's the official news...I'm back with Primetime. It's a victory for the campaign. I'm convinced about that.

[email protected]

Let's set some records on Saturday night and Sunday morning.

Adios and thanks.

paulgmccabe · Post by **paulgmccabe** » 12 Oct 2009, 08:20

Great to hear, well done Buncey!

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 12 Oct 2009, 08:21

what is primetimelive?

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 12 Oct 2009, 08:21

Buncey wrote:OK, here's the official news...I'm back with Primetime. It's a victory for the campaign. I'm convinced about that.

[email protected]

Let's set some records on Saturday night and Sunday morning.

Adios and thanks.

Any chance the contract will include a TV show?

Adamj1987 · Post by **Adamj1987** » 12 Oct 2009, 08:22

Counter-puncher wrote:what is primetimelive?

new PPV channel on SKY that froch-dirrell and abraham-taylor is on

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 12 Oct 2009, 08:22

Whole super six is on isnt it?

Think I'll go and book it now actually, although I still have questions bout phone line etc...

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 12 Oct 2009, 08:26

Adamj1987 wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:what is primetimelive?
new PPV channel on SKY that froch-dirrell and abraham-taylor is on

From Kevin Mitchell in the guardian.

Primetime, which did not exist until recently, still has no commentary team in place (although there are plenty of good people to choose from among the 450 employees made redundant in the collapse of Setanta's British outlet), and no commitment to stay in boxing.

Primetime is not a 24-hour-a-day TV station; it is a one-off, pay-per-view exercise. If the numbers add up, execs there say they may stay in boxing. If not, they will fold their tent and leave town.

Ray Mia, a Portland consultant, says: "We want to put on at least one pay-per-view event a month. We're going to see how it goes. The show will be live from 8pm, including the undercard and Arthur Abraham against Jermain Taylor. From 8 October we will be screening Carl's last two fights as well as the reality series, Access All Areas, about the Super Six tournament, which features six of the top 10 super-middleweights in the world."

It is 15 years since Lennox Lewis fought Oliver McCall in London on Wire TV, and was knocked out in the second round. Wire TV disappeared without trace. Lennox recovered to great effect. His friends hope Froch does not have to go through that sort of experience.

The Super Six series is hugely ambitious. Trying to get two fighters into the ring at the same time is tough enough; keeping six of them on their best behaviour over a tournament that is likely to last two years could be a legal and logistical nightmare.

Primetime are up for night one of the Super Six, but they have yet to negotiate coverage of Mikkel Kessler, the favourite, who fights Andre Ward in the third showdown on 17 November.

So this tournament is not yet totally in place for British fans. Without a long-term domestic agreement, Froch will have to negotiate each time to ensure he is seen at home.

Showtime say they are committed to the project and have the participants locked into contracts with penalty clauses to ensure they fulfil their commitments. Froch, I understand, is guaranteed £1m for his round-robin of fights, more if he gets to the final, and will try to pick up money from other outlets along the way – which is where Primetime came in.

David McConachie, who has worked with allegedly and is the managing director of Queensbury Media, helped set up the deal between Portland TV and Froch. The fighter did not have much bargaining clout, though, given the lack of interest from the BBC, ITV and Sky. He even talked to the new internet site, HattonTV. It is unlikely he will be making a fortune from it.

Apart from all that, though, this is a fight that should be on prime-time British TV. Froch is a genuine world champion, with a real belt. He is a dedicated professional who deserves more than the shoddy treatment he has received over the past six months or so.

His last fight, when he went to Connecticut and knocked out Taylor in the final round in the first defence of his WBC title, was a thriller – and that, ludicrously, ended up online.

Showtime, however, loved it, and they will stay in the Carl Froch business as long as he keeps fighting like that. It is a big ask, one that might seriously stretch him, especially against Kessler.

Froch's promoter, Mick Hennessy, a feisty, hardworking type who has beavered away for several years in the shadow of the Franks, Warren and Maloney, talked optimistically the night of the Taylor fight of getting Carl's next defence on a new ITV pay-per-view outlet. It was, he said, the future. It hasn't happened.

Sources tell me there have been tensions in the Froch camp, as he grows more frustrated by the lack of recognition for his ability and with the rebuffs from British TV executives. It is not the way to prepare for a difficult fight against a hungry young prospect such as Dirrell, who is quick and hits very hard.

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 12 Oct 2009, 08:26

Adamj1987 wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:what is primetimelive?
new PPV channel on SKY that froch-dirrell and abraham-taylor is on

ta

Adamj1987 · Post by **Adamj1987** » 12 Oct 2009, 08:28

Counter-puncher wrote:
Adamj1987 wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:what is primetimelive?
new PPV channel on SKY that froch-dirrell and abraham-taylor is on
ta

i think its channel 380 (not sure though i dont have sky) and with connection fee it works out at £14.95 for the fights including the nottingham undercard

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 12 Oct 2009, 08:30

Adamj1987 · Post by **Adamj1987** » 12 Oct 2009, 08:31

Wales wrote:480

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 12 Oct 2009, 08:34

According to the article above german undercard is on in full too!!

Buncey · Post by **Buncey** » 12 Oct 2009, 08:41

I think that little Andy Kerr is part of the team. Richie Woodhall is with BBC Five Live. Not sure about ITV's renegades.
It will be a blast.

Adios.

saad muhammad · Post by **saad muhammad** » 12 Oct 2009, 09:08

Blinding.!!

iwz678 · Post by **iwz678** » 12 Oct 2009, 09:16

definitley gonna pay for it now, nice one Buncey

whiskey · Post by **whiskey** » 12 Oct 2009, 09:35

Buncey wrote:I think that little Andy Kerr is part of the team. Richie Woodhall is with BBC Five Live. Not sure about ITV's renegades.
It will be a blast.

Adios.

This is great news.

It's all coming together for everyone and im chuffed.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 12 Oct 2009, 09:37

G0mez wrote:
Buncey wrote:I think that little Andy Kerr is part of the team. Richie Woodhall is with BBC Five Live. Not sure about ITV's renegades.
It will be a blast.

Adios.
This is great news.

It's all coming together for everyone and im chuffed.

I just hope it gets buys it deserves

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 12 Oct 2009, 09:43

Has it been advertised in the back of the sun and places like that??

Adamj1987 · Post by **Adamj1987** » 12 Oct 2009, 09:51

Wales wrote:Has it been advertised in the back of the sun and places like that??

froch has been in the sun newspaper and they said about primetime showing it and its been on back cover of boxing news for quite abit

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 12 Oct 2009, 09:58

I kind of expect the people that read boxing news to know, its the general fight fan, the casuals as we call them that need to buy into this to make it a success IMO.

Adamj1987 · Post by **Adamj1987** » 12 Oct 2009, 10:05

Wales wrote:I kind of expect the people that read boxing news to know, its the general fight fan, the casuals as we call them that need to buy into this to make it a success IMO.

we do froch is still mostly an unknown we need people to be aware of the tournament as a whole

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 12 Oct 2009, 10:05

Porn channels ghave also been advertising it.

Not that Id know

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 12 Oct 2009, 10:12

If the Boxing News readership is 100,000 (and I don't know that it is or isn't) I'd predict this will do about 50% of that.

I hope I'm wrong.

I hope it does 250,000, but it wont.

Khan did somewhere between 35,000 and 100,000 (depending on who you believe) on Sky Box Office if I'm not mistaken.

It will be a miracle if Froch does 100,000, and thats a crime.

He may end up being bigger in the States than here.

Buncey · Post by **Buncey** » 12 Oct 2009, 10:18

Davido,
Your Boxing News figures are way, way off.
Let's hope that Primetime does great business - they want to go with a fight each month. Also, they have given me a chance to get back and that has taken some serious nuts.

Adios.

gasman · Post by **gasman** » 12 Oct 2009, 10:20

Buncey is back
Kerr is back
Froch is going to be on live TV this (albeit PPV)

But all in all, this is great news

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