Vitali Klitschko vs Sinan Samil Sam next for the WBC-title

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 13 Dec 2004, 09:25

Klitschko and Sauerland assured that his next fight will take place in spring in Germany against an attractive opponent.

Vitali wants to fight at the ArenaAufSchalke (capacity: 60,000 in football).

it will be a free defence. the most attractive fight would be vs. Sam. the stadium would be sold out. both fight for Sauerland. no problems with negotiations.

bring on that fight.

Chris the fighter · Post by **Chris the fighter** » 13 Dec 2004, 09:49

It would only be attractive in Germany. You can't really say that Sam has earn't a chance at the title. Having said that if Danny had won he may have fought Skelton in his first defense which no one outside the UK would have been intrested in.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 13 Dec 2004, 10:06

Sam is now #9 at the WBC and has shown a lot of good fights in the last 2-3 years. his last fight was awesome. he smashed e.g. Dany Williams to pieces. he deserves it.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 13 Dec 2004, 10:08

Easy win for Vitali, Sam is too slow and plodding. The one thing which made me think Danny had a chance is that he has fast hands and is a good body puncher, Sam isn't really physically equipped with the tools to beat Vitali from what I can see.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 13 Dec 2004, 10:14

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Easy win for Vitali, Sam is too slow and plodding. The one thing which made me think Danny had a chance is that he has fast hands and is a good body puncher, Sam isn't really physically equipped with the tools to beat Vitali from what I can see.

Mabye an interesting contest. Sam has fast hands but slow movement, Klitschko size will probably mean Sam would have to chase Klitchsko, which is something he cannot do effectively. Sam would have to rely on Klitschko coming to him.

I think those traits that you say gave Danny a chance, Sam also has (ask Julius about his body punching, ask Danny about his hand speed). Its just I cannot see how Sam will get past the jab. Unless he cannot goat Vitali into making it war then I cannot see how Sam's style will trouble Klitchsko.

He would probably be more effective than Williams, because he is a slightly more natural come forward fighter and might slip punches better, but his lack of foot speed is the critical factor.

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 13 Dec 2004, 10:18

Sam would plod straight into a booming right hand and get stopped VERY early. He has worse movement than Williams and he's fat.

Sam should be nowhere near Vitali.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 13 Dec 2004, 11:49

Since training with Uli Wegner Sam has been improving very much e.g. footwork, condition and stamina. he almost lost his döner-kebap-belly. did you watch his last fight? he proved everything he needs for a title fight and would easily beat Ruiz,Byrd and Brewster. think against whom these three guys have boxed?

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 13 Dec 2004, 14:32

lirva33 wrote:Sam would plod straight into a booming right hand and get stopped VERY early. He has worse movement than Williams and he's fat.

Sam should be nowhere near Vitali.

why could he then smash Williams into pieces?

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 13 Dec 2004, 14:35

I think Vitali will be fighting Hasim Fatman oops Rahman! Next.

My T Sharp · Post by **My T Sharp** » 13 Dec 2004, 14:36

Why would 60,000 Germans be interested in a giant Ukranian pounding on a fat Turk?

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 13 Dec 2004, 14:39

My T Sharp wrote:Why would 60,000 Germans be interested in a giant Ukranian pounding on a fat Turk?

Sam is a national hero in Turkey and about 3 millions Turks live in Germany. I would expect 70,000 spectators. Klitschko alone had already 20,000 spectators in "smaller arenas" for non-title-fights.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 13 Dec 2004, 14:39

Yeah the sick bastards

They will bring back bear bating and cock fighting next

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 13 Dec 2004, 14:40

steve689 wrote:I think Vitali will be fighting Hasim Fatman oops Rahman! Next.

this will be his summer fight in the US.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 13 Dec 2004, 14:41

steve689 wrote:Yeah the sick bastards They will bring back bear bating and cock fighting next

who is a bastard?

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 13 Dec 2004, 14:47

It was a joke Bubi baby, nothing personal old fruit

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 13 Dec 2004, 14:51

steve689 wrote:It was a joke Bubi baby, nothing personal old fruit

ok.

i would just love a fight at the arena. i was there for football it´s just overwhelming.

My T Sharp · Post by **My T Sharp** » 13 Dec 2004, 14:58

BubiScholz wrote:
My T Sharp wrote:Why would 60,000 Germans be interested in a giant Ukranian pounding on a fat Turk?
Sam is a national hero in Turkey and about 3 millions Turks live in Germany. I would expect 70,000 spectators. Klitschko alone had already 20,000 spectators in "smaller arenas" for non-title-fights.

Impressive...so all the crowd may not be made up of the normal big ring loving jab clappers.

shakermaker · Post by **shakermaker** » 13 Dec 2004, 17:04

well if Danny Willaims can get a shot why not Sam?! It wouldn't really interest the Yanks though. Another European affair

glittermonkey · Post by **glittermonkey** » 13 Dec 2004, 17:26

Why is there no option for Vitali to win via an incredible two minute beating?

Smit · Post by **Smit** » 13 Dec 2004, 18:39

shakermaker wrote:well if Danny Willaims can get a shot why not Sam?! It wouldn't really interest the Yanks though. Another European affair

Because Williams beat a well known American Hero in Mike Tyson thats why

Really doubt any most americans have ever heard of Sam.... just like they hadn't heard of Williams Pre Tyson fight

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 13 Dec 2004, 19:23

BubiScholz wrote:
lirva33 wrote:Sam would plod straight into a booming right hand and get stopped VERY early. He has worse movement than Williams and he's fat.

Sam should be nowhere near Vitali.

why could he then smash Williams into pieces?

because Williams is poor.

Styles make fights son.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 14 Dec 2004, 06:20

Smit wrote:
shakermaker wrote:well if Danny Willaims can get a shot why not Sam?! It wouldn't really interest the Yanks though. Another European affair
Because Williams beat a well known American Hero in Mike Tyson thats why

Really doubt any most americans have ever heard of Sam.... just like they hadn't heard of Williams Pre Tyson fight

the fight takes place in Germany. If he would fight vs Ruiz nobody would be interested, maybe only 5,000 to 10,000 would come. a fight at Schalke wouldbe unrealistic.

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 14 Dec 2004, 07:05

This basically tells us that Bubi was not joking when he had Sam at #2 in his great top 10 heavyweights list.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 14 Dec 2004, 07:13

lirva33 wrote:This basically tells us that Bubi was not joking when he had Sam at #2 in his great top 10 heavyweights list.

wait and see when he gets a title fight

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 14 Dec 2004, 07:54

steve689 wrote:I think Vitali will be fighting Hasim Fatman oops Rahman! Next.

Rahman was in the shape of his life for his last fight, he ain't fat any more.

Vitali Klitschko vs Sinan Samil Sam next for the WBC-title

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Vitali Klitschko vs Sinan Samil Sam next for the WBC-title