OT: BNP

[Datsue]

Jesus fecking Christ some of you lot are insecure aren't you?

Afraid you'll catch the ghey off the snogging blokes?

Christ.

[Mensa07]

well likewise sg mate, who are you to judge whats normal?

Actually I don't agree homosexuality should only go on behind closed doors, any more than heterosex. but just to reiterate the original point, I (like Griffin) am uncomfortable with the sight of 2 blokes kissing.

[Mensa07]

well likewise sg mate, who are you to judge whats normal?

Actually I don't agree homosexuality should only go on behind closed doors, any more than heterosex. but just to reiterate the original point, I (like Griffin) am uncomfortable with the sight of 2 blokes kissing.

But I'm not judging anything, I am not saying anything isn't normal? I am not suggesting people should hide away because of my views.

no but you are implying homosexuality is normal, are you not?

anyway, thats enough for one day for me. tomorrow... islam! D

[Horse]

But how can human emotion not be normal? How can sexuality not be a normal thing? I get your point, I suppose I am making a judgement. But there is a difference between thinking something is normal, everyday and just a part of life to judging something to not be normal, who is anyone to decide something isn't the norm?

Is paedophilia normal?

Homosexuality is an unusual sexual inclination and it is a rather unhealthy lifestyle, statistically.

[Des1]

Lets get one thing straight. We are all human beings, no one race is higher or lower than the other, who has gave anyone the right to judge?

When it comes to this country there seems to be double standards. So 'us' English dont like it that immigrants come over here. I wonder if ther native ansisters liked it when 'us English went over to their country...and made it their own (hence the Commonwealth)!

We/the country/our goverments have asked for it. Through history England along with the USA invaded countries and settled there and tried to take ownership.

[banjo]

Lets get one thing straight. We are all human beings, no one race is higher or lower than the other, who has gave anyone the right to judge?

When it comes to this country there seems to be double standards. So 'us' English dont like it that immigrants come over here. I wonder if ther native ansisters liked it when 'us English went over to their country...and made it their own (hence the Commonwealth)!

We/the country/our goverments have asked for it. Through history England along with the USA invaded countries and settled there and tried to take ownership.

England was invaded yonks ago by the Romans and the Vikings, not as if England has never been invaded is it? In fact our entire civilisation was built from those invasions.

[Des1]

Lets get one thing straight. We are all human beings, no one race is higher or lower than the other, who has gave anyone the right to judge?

When it comes to this country there seems to be double standards. So 'us' English dont like it that immigrants come over here. I wonder if ther native ansisters liked it when 'us English went over to their country...and made it their own (hence the Commonwealth)!

We/the country/our goverments have asked for it. Through history England along with the USA invaded countries and settled there and tried to take ownership.

England was invaded yonks ago by the Romans and the Vikings, not as if England has never been invaded is it? In fact our entire civilisation was built from those invasions.

Yes but England has took ownership of many countries which the natives are now coming here. I didn't say that England has never been invaded? By the matter of fact way you say they have are you suggesting along the lines that if someone punches you in the face that makes it ok to walk up to someone else and do the same?

[MecnunK]

He was made to look the tit that he is, no more. All politicians lie however if you have seen his address to the KKK and how describes his plan to disguise the true bigoted motivations of BNP under mainstream political language, it would become clear that he is no more than a dishonest con.

[m1kee50]

Why should they do it in private? If it makes you uncomfortable its you with the problem isn't it? I don't hear gay people complaining about seeing straight people kiss.

Sorry mate but there is a huge difference between men with women and men with men. Homosexuality is unnatural and belongs behind closed doors. Of course we see men and women kissing at railway stations and airports etc but that is acceptable normal behaviour. It sickens me when people try to normalise something that is neither normal or natural. The law was only changed to stop homosexuals from being blackmailed. It was never intended that they should go this far and ram their unnatural behavior in our faces. Yes, I feel uncomfortable with it and I have a right to feel that way.

Did it sicken you when they stopped criminalising masturbation?

[m1kee50]

keen to stress that she was not racist but...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8322626.stm

7.9% love, and it's not shooting upwards. What does agg me is that the powers that be force that analysis on people, by creating areas of population that do not reflect the actual make up of the population. They ghettoise race alongside poverty and then wonder how people get annoyed.

and another one:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8319635.stm

"What we have got here isn't a community"

The woman who served us was a headscarf-wearing young Muslim with a sharp East End "innit" at the end of her sentences.

To my left, as we talk, there's a white family. The late-teens girl is sitting with her mum and a boy who is black. There's another obviously mixed-race couple smooching and sharing an iPod. All of these people seem to be getting on just fine.

But none of this is visible evidence of a community in Mr Bailey's view. It's cultural "wash-out".

"They can be civically British, with a passport, but they're not ethnically British. Let's face it, it's the look-test," he says.

I'd like to draw your attention to that last bit: look-test... how British will you have to look? Clealry being mixed-race - or half British - may not be enough. Will it be like Brazil in the slave days? 8 generations until the unBritish is bred out of you? The thing where I think most people will disagree with them is their insistence that being born here is not enough.

Wave goodbye to Carlton Cole, Theo Walcott, Ashley Cole, Amir Khan... not British, by their standards

[banjo]

Yes but England has took ownership of many countries which the natives are now coming here. I didn't say that England has never been invaded? By the matter of fact way you say they have are you suggesting along the lines that if someone punches you in the face that makes it ok to walk up to someone else and do the same?

No but that's our nature, forget this "we're human beings" baloney because it's a load of nonsense, we're no different from any other animal, we prey on other species, we fight amongst ourselves(although our fights tend to be a million times more destructive than say two lions fighting each other), we were never born to love each other, we were born to survive.

[jamesmcdonnell]

well likewise sg mate, who are you to judge whats normal?

Actually I don't agree homosexuality should only go on behind closed doors, any more than heterosex. but just to reiterate the original point, I (like Griffin) am uncomfortable with the sight of 2 blokes kissing.

Well that's your problem - It makes me squirm a bit, but that's my problem, not theirs.

[DAVE2005]

if you dont like what people do in public then dont look, its as simple as that

[jamesmcdonnell]

if you dont like what people do in public then dont look, its as simple as that

Precisely. It's like people who watch TV shows then complain about them - why not just turn over?

[rhino222]

he will always get more votes than he gets overt support, because its not politically correct to support someone who wants the countries 'way in' gates closed.

he commented on the fact that you only have to see what is happening in small towns and villages all over britain to see what harm immigration is doing, i can be outside asda in boston in lincs, and near the cashpoint, and i cant hear an english voice..all eastern european.

he commented on the fact that homosexuality is something that should be done in the privacy of your own home and not be on open public display in the street, kissing and holding hands etc.

call me a racist pig or a homophobe but i agree with the 2 comments, and im brave enough to say it.

in public people will agree but only in their heads, in the secrecy of an election ballot, if the current government do not sort things out quick, then more and more people will vote BNP.

So what if it's all eastern european voices? They are still the same species mate.

so you are comfortable with an invasion of foreigners, who offer nothing to this country in terms of qualifications and work, who drain our welfare system without having paid a penny of tax or NI contributions, while meanwhile our taxes rise, accommodation for our people becomes less available, our health service becomes drained, the government continues to hand out money for cars etc...etc..need i go on.

now, i work with eastern europeans, very clever people, who bring plenty to the country in terms of being excellent doctors etc...i have no problem there as they are not the social spongers. that is the problem.

as for the gay side of things, i stand by my points.

it was adam and eve not adam and steve !!!

[el_grande_mauro_mina]

he will always get more votes than he gets overt support, because its not politically correct to support someone who wants the countries 'way in' gates closed.

he commented on the fact that you only have to see what is happening in small towns and villages all over britain to see what harm immigration is doing, i can be outside asda in boston in lincs, and near the cashpoint, and i cant hear an english voice..all eastern european.

he commented on the fact that homosexuality is something that should be done in the privacy of your own home and not be on open public display in the street, kissing and holding hands etc.

call me a racist pig or a homophobe but i agree with the 2 comments, and im brave enough to say it.

in public people will agree but only in their heads, in the secrecy of an election ballot, if the current government do not sort things out quick, then more and more people will vote BNP.

So what if it's all eastern european voices? They are still the same species mate.

so you are comfortable with an invasion of foreigners, who offer nothing to this country in terms of qualifications and work, who drain our welfare system without having paid a penny of tax or NI contributions, while meanwhile our taxes rise, accommodation for our people becomes less available, our health service becomes drained, the government continues to hand out money for cars etc...etc..need i go on.

now, i work with eastern europeans, very clever people, who bring plenty to the country in terms of being excellent doctors etc...i have no problem there as they are not the social spongers. that is the problem.

as for the gay side of things, i stand by my points.

it was adam and eve not adam and steve !!!

Are you voting BNP then, Rhino?

it was adam and eve not adam and steve !!!

Quoting Alan Partridge - I expect nothing less...

[banjo]

I have problems with anyone who sponges no matter where they are from or what colour their skin is.

Another example of our weeny poo country where we not only tolerate but also subsidise the lazy, weak and retarded whereas in the old days we'd have just left them to die.

[thepocketrocket]

There should always be a safety net for those incapable of finding work ect...but there are too many loopholes, they need to be closed!

I hardly think its acceptable to leave people in our society to die!

[jamesmcdonnell]

he will always get more votes than he gets overt support, because its not politically correct to support someone who wants the countries 'way in' gates closed.

he commented on the fact that you only have to see what is happening in small towns and villages all over britain to see what harm immigration is doing, i can be outside asda in boston in lincs, and near the cashpoint, and i cant hear an english voice..all eastern european.

he commented on the fact that homosexuality is something that should be done in the privacy of your own home and not be on open public display in the street, kissing and holding hands etc.

call me a racist pig or a homophobe but i agree with the 2 comments, and im brave enough to say it.

in public people will agree but only in their heads, in the secrecy of an election ballot, if the current government do not sort things out quick, then more and more people will vote BNP.

So what if it's all eastern european voices? They are still the same species mate.

so you are comfortable with an invasion of foreigners, who offer nothing to this country in terms of qualifications and work, who drain our welfare system without having paid a penny of tax or NI contributions, while meanwhile our taxes rise, accommodation for our people becomes less available, our health service becomes drained, the government continues to hand out money for cars etc...etc..need i go on.

now, i work with eastern europeans, very clever people, who bring plenty to the country in terms of being excellent doctors etc...i have no problem there as they are not the social spongers. that is the problem.

as for the gay side of things, i stand by my points.

it was adam and eve not adam and steve !!!

What proportion of those signing on do you think are foriegners then?

The reason there is no accomodation is that Maggie sold off all the council houses, and then the labour government never did anything to replace the housing stock, you cannot blame foreigners for that.

There are literally hundreds of thousands of young, uneducated men and women in this country who were born here and have never done a days work in their lives, they are the problem, not the small percentage of people who come here from foriegn countries and abuse our welfare system.

You do realise don't you that it's not actually easy to come to this country with no work permit and be given a place to live and money from the state. It's a complete myth that this country is full of somalian refugees living in state payed for 1 million pound five bed houses.

Add to that the super rich who manage to avoid paying tax in THEIR OWN COUNTRY, so they can protect their assets, and there's your answer to why our exchequer is depleted, that and the fat cat bankers who bled us dry.

Here's an interesting statistic, in Brixton, the ward of the borough I live in, what do you think is the biggest single ethnic group living in the area?

That's right - white caucasians - despite the prevailing wisdom that Brixton is a 'black' area, in fact, they are in the minority by quite some way.

Perceptions are not always correct.

[el_grande_mauro_mina]

What proportion of those signing on do you think are foriegners then?

The reason there is no accomodation is that Maggie sold off all the council houses, and then the labour government never did anything to replace the housing stock, you cannot blame foreigners for that.

There are literally hundreds of thousands of young, uneducated men and women in this country who were born here and have never done a days work in their lives, they are the problem, not the small percentage of people who come here from foriegn countries and abuse our welfare system.

You do realise don't you that it's not actually easy to come to this country with no work permit and be given a place to live and money from the state. It's a complete myth that this country is full of somalian refugees living in state payed for 1 million pound five bed houses.

Add to that the super rich who manage to avoid paying tax in THEIR OWN COUNTRY, so they can protect their assets, and there's your answer to why our exchequer is depleted, that and the fat cat bankers who bled us dry.

Here's an interesting statistic, in Brixton, the ward of the borough I live in, what do you think is the biggest single ethnic group living in the area?

That's right - white caucasians - despite the prevailing wisdom that Brixton is a 'black' area, in fact, they are in the minority by quite some way.

Perceptions are not always correct.

That's the most interesting 'myth' that never seems to get challenged James and thats Britian is 'multi cultural'

The South Lancashire corridor (along the East Lancs Road) between Liverpool and Manchester - some of the most 'urban' and 'industrial' piece real estate in Europe that stretches 40 miles with towns such as Widnes, Runcorn, St Helens, Warrington, Wigan, Salford - its probably 99% white and British ethnicity - and I doubt there is a mosque in any of those towns.

I think people see multi-culturalism in the East end of London and think that its the same everywhere - and its not!

There are large swathes of Britian outside the major cities where you would have a hard time finding anything other than a white face.

[el_grande_mauro_mina]

What proportion of those signing on do you think are foriegners then?

The reason there is no accomodation is that Maggie sold off all the council houses, and then the labour government never did anything to replace the housing stock, you cannot blame foreigners for that.

There are literally hundreds of thousands of young, uneducated men and women in this country who were born here and have never done a days work in their lives, they are the problem, not the small percentage of people who come here from foriegn countries and abuse our welfare system.

You do realise don't you that it's not actually easy to come to this country with no work permit and be given a place to live and money from the state. It's a complete myth that this country is full of somalian refugees living in state payed for 1 million pound five bed houses.

Add to that the super rich who manage to avoid paying tax in THEIR OWN COUNTRY, so they can protect their assets, and there's your answer to why our exchequer is depleted, that and the fat cat bankers who bled us dry.

Here's an interesting statistic, in Brixton, the ward of the borough I live in, what do you think is the biggest single ethnic group living in the area?

That's right - white caucasians - despite the prevailing wisdom that Brixton is a 'black' area, in fact, they are in the minority by quite some way.

Perceptions are not always correct.

That's the most interesting 'myth' that never seems to get challenged James and thats Britian is 'multi cultural'

The South Lancashire corridor (along the East Lancs Road) between Liverpool and Manchester - some of the most 'urban' and 'industrial' piece real estate in Europe that stretches 40 miles with towns such as Widnes, Runcorn, St Helens, Warrington, Wigan, Salford - its probably 99% white and British ethnicity - and I doubt there is a mosque in any of those towns.

I think people see multi-culturalism in the East end of London and think that its the same everywhere - and its not!

There are large swathes of Britian outside the major cities where you would have a hard time finding anything other than a white face.

The east lancs does not run through urban areas, they are extremely suburban. Are you really suggesting there is no multi-cultural areas outside of London? That is laughable. There are mosques in Salford, and in Leigh which is a part of Wigan. I have no idea about widnes/runcorn and warrington. But what about places like Oldham? Bolton?

One of the biggest coalmines in the UK used to be off where the East Lancs road at Haydock now stands - and the towns I mentioned are pretty urban - they still contain chemical plants, glass factories, food processing plants, terraced housing and large council estates - I am from there by the way - where are you from?

Is there a mosque in Leigh? I bet any money though the muslim population of Leigh is miniscule and recently arrived. And yes - Oldham, Rochdale and Bolton have large communities from the Asian continent. But they are still minorities - even in those towns.

Oh, and I didn't bring up towns like Ellesmere Port, Stockport, Chester, Birkenhead which are mainly populated with people of white, British descent - just talking about the South Lancs industrial corridor. And where did I say there were no multi cultural areas outside of London? I said quite clearly that there were swarthes of Britian outside the major cities where there aren't many white faces.

http://83.137.212.42/sitearchive/cre/di ... index.html

and

http://83.137.212.42/sitearchive/cre/diversity/map.html

[banjo]

There should always be a safety net for those incapable of finding work ect...but there are too many loopholes, they need to be closed!

I hardly think its acceptable to leave people in our society to die!

And that's why society is the way it is, we can't move forward because we're dragging a ball and chain on our ankles.

[thepocketrocket]

There should always be a safety net for those incapable of finding work ect...but there are too many loopholes, they need to be closed!

I hardly think its acceptable to leave people in our society to die!

And that's why society is the way it is, we can't move forward because we're dragging a ball and chain on our ankles.

Yes Banjo, give my regards to Reinhard Heydrich! Why dont we just kill them, it will be more mercifull in the end!!!

[banjo]

There should always be a safety net for those incapable of finding work ect...but there are too many loopholes, they need to be closed!

I hardly think its acceptable to leave people in our society to die!

And that's why society is the way it is, we can't move forward because we're dragging a ball and chain on our ankles.

Yes Banjo, give my regards to Reinhard Heydrich! Why dont we just kill them, it will be more mercifull in the end!!!

How dare you label me a Nazi, I'm a Communist.

[finchy36]

It is simple. All the British people want is the following:

1. A Government that will put its own people first without discriminating unfairly on others

2. Treat criminals harshly - life means life etc. 10 years mean 10 years etc.

3. Be honest with our kids and get rid of political correctness

4. Be true to its people and stop scoffing the trough - stand up to Europe without excluding ourselves

5. Bin the human rights act


Unfortuantely, ALL politicians are in it for themselves and don't care about us - and if we want to go really deep then we all know that they don't run the country anyway.....................

Griffin is a dick, but some of the things he says are bang on - other things he says are ridiculous...

we just need someone to stand up for British rights without being racist or extreme....SEEMPLES!!!!!!!!!!