Dont get me started!!!gemmell wrote:X2 WHAT HE DID TO OLIVER HARRISON WAS A DISGRACE.
dirrell ran from froch all night, basically turned it into a farce on purpose, on the opening night of super 6. dirrell will try and do this to abraham, kessler, ward, taylor or whoever. it will be fvcking ugly. there is ray of hope - he's found out he won't be rewarded for such negativity.Eraserhead wrote:Khan's fight, performance and result against Kotelnik was much better than Froch's against Dirrell. I'll give him that much.
tonyevs wrote:G0mez wrote:In other words,
He has already planned to leave the UK anyway, but in a clever marketing manoeuvre he will endeavour to tarnish John Murray (a guy he wont fight) and do Wazza a favour by putting some more boot into Froch.
Well Amir,
In the last two years you have been banned for 40 odd days for driving your super-charged Range Rover at 150+ MPH and have also knocked over an maimed an old guy using a pelican crossing.
Then the other week you crashed into a cyclist :-
In the meantime everyone from Bunce to the whole of internet land declared your fight with the hand-picked weakest 140lb champion in Kotlenik a bore and that it goes without saying your glass chin was utterly exposed by the unheralded Breidis Prescott.
Whilst Breidis still lives in slum, you live in an apartment block with P-diddy and Snoop Dogg.
And dont get me started on your treatment and subsequent gagging order on Oliver Harrison, a damn good trainer who deserved better than that.
Your a turd.
Couldn`t agree more. Is this jealously because Froch and Murray have total respect from boxing fans?
Totally agree Harrison was a good young trainer and didnt deserve what Khan did to himSpud wrote:Dont get me started!!!gemmell wrote:X2 WHAT HE DID TO OLIVER HARRISON WAS A DISGRACE.
I stated at the time that the way Olly Harrison was treated was completely disgusting!!!
Amir Khan loves this country so much and all what is stands for he now wants to leave it - Ummmm
I cannot stand anything about Amir Khan - not a f*cking thing!!!
that's it, let's wait for john murray and carl froch to "turn their backs on the UK" due to fan hatred and bitternesskingfinn wrote:I think what he said is right, Frochs got a big mouth and so has john murray, there the working mans champions and you just have to read some of the comments on this forum to see people hate khan because he's acheived something when murray hasnt. Maybe Khan should just smash up murray and shut his mouth for him. Unfortunatley we may have to wait for murray to become a world name, so the fight will probably take place in 2020 where some fighter have been replaced by robots and bionically enhanced women.
Same with Audley Harrison, the people in this country support the underdog and seem to hate the real champions or anyone who gets beaten at any point, if Calzaghe had been English rather than Welsh i bet he would have the same problem. The scots and the welsh always back their champions, and i remember when Calzaghe fought robin reed he got loads of flack from the english supporters.
murray was in the same weight as khan, and it obviously is a big gain fight for him, so why is he out of order for wanting the fight?kingfinn wrote:tonyevs wrote:G0mez wrote:In other words,
He has already planned to leave the UK anyway, but in a clever marketing manoeuvre he will endeavour to tarnish John Murray (a guy he wont fight) and do Wazza a favour by putting some more boot into Froch.
Well Amir,
In the last two years you have been banned for 40 odd days for driving your super-charged Range Rover at 150+ MPH and have also knocked over an maimed an old guy using a pelican crossing.
Then the other week you crashed into a cyclist :-
In the meantime everyone from Bunce to the whole of internet land declared your fight with the hand-picked weakest 140lb champion in Kotlenik a bore and that it goes without saying your glass chin was utterly exposed by the unheralded Breidis Prescott.
Whilst Breidis still lives in slum, you live in an apartment block with P-diddy and Snoop Dogg.
And dont get me started on your treatment and subsequent gagging order on Oliver Harrison, a damn good trainer who deserved better than that.
Your a turd.
Couldn`t agree more. Is this jealously because Froch and Murray have total respect from boxing fans?
Frochs a clown and the most overated fighter in the UK, and murray is just trying to make a career for himself off khans back.
If murray spent as much time trying to get some decent fights as he does complaining that olympic and world champion amir khan hasnt wasted his time knocking him out, then he might get himself on the world stage and finally earn the chance to get in the ring with khan.
The problem is the english public like to blame there problems on everyone else getting it easier.. People on the council estates complain the polish are taking there jobs and what not. They could just get off their arses work hard, train hard and search for a job, but they would rather sit at home blaming their lives on others. Thats why murray is supported, because he sitts about complaining he's hard done by.
Thats how murray is, boo hoo khan doesnt have to fight for no money in small halls because hes got a silver medal and worldwide interest, poor me. He should be saying im going to smash up every fighter i meet, take the european title and then take a world title, then when ive got that it might be lucrative for Khan to fight me. Not khan should fight me for pennies when he could be earning millions and put his career on the line in a fight noone outside england cares about just so i might get on the world stage for it.
And then people complain that Khan is taking the easy route, when murray is trying to do the same thing but cant.
However, hopefully one of those four mentioned will be able to actually hit Dirrell flush, rather than just blunder face-first into the ropes whilst eating left-hand counters because he's tripping over his own feet, & waving his left hand ineffectually in front of his face like a man trying to wipe condensation off of a misted-up window.Autobarn wrote:dirrell ran from froch all night, basically turned it into a farce on purpose, on the opening night of super 6. dirrell will try and do this to abraham, kessler, ward, taylor or whoever.
think that's a bit OTT. hopefully there is a more efficient fighter at cutting the ring down, closing the range, getting fast shots off: and wiping dirrell out. and if this person achieves this, it doesn't mean they can do same to froch - froch may have answer for him... dirrell just tried to shut froch's offense down but doing nothig active himself. what's happened to froch is as bad as some of the things that happened to lewis, i..e the akinwande farce, the mccall farce. somebody fvcks up, somebody shits it, makes the british fighter look bad. it's as bad as derrick ganier v marquez, marquez landed little also, but obviously got his shots off a bit more gracefully.Datsue wrote:However, hopefully one of those four mentioned will be able to actually hit Dirrell flush, rather than just blunder face-first into the ropes whilst eating left-hand counters because he's tripping over his own feet, & waving his left hand ineffectually in front of his face like a man trying to wipe condensation off of a misted-up window.Autobarn wrote:dirrell ran from froch all night, basically turned it into a farce on purpose, on the opening night of super 6. dirrell will try and do this to abraham, kessler, ward, taylor or whoever.
Well, personally - I am very sensitive!banjo wrote:Really? I'd stay and goad them on for a laugh.Carlos-Wigan wrote:If 10000 of my 'countrymen' booed me at Ricky Hattons weigh in at Vegas - I would be looking for a ticket out too.
- 1,000,000 man points from Mr. Khan for driving a hairdressers car as well
Especially if I won a silver medal for the ungrateful gets - I would have been gutted to get thatAutobarn wrote:think that's a bit OTT. hopefully there is a more efficient fighter at cutting the ring down, closing the range, getting fast shots off: and wiping dirrell out. and if this person achieves this, it doesn't mean they can do same to froch - froch may have answer for him... dirrell just tried to shut froch's offense down but doing nothig active himself. what's happened to froch is as bad as some of the things that happened to lewis, i..e the akinwande farce, the mccall farce. somebody fvcks up, somebody shits it, makes the british fighter look bad. it's as bad as derrick ganier v marquez, marquez landed little also, but obviously got his shots off a bit more gracefully.Datsue wrote:However, hopefully one of those four mentioned will be able to actually hit Dirrell flush, rather than just blunder face-first into the ropes whilst eating left-hand counters because he's tripping over his own feet, & waving his left hand ineffectually in front of his face like a man trying to wipe condensation off of a misted-up window.Autobarn wrote:dirrell ran from froch all night, basically turned it into a farce on purpose, on the opening night of super 6. dirrell will try and do this to abraham, kessler, ward, taylor or whoever.
Exaclty the opinion i would expect you to have. I noticed you missed out the bit about Harrison winning an olympic gold medal for his country and Khan winning a silver and then going on to take a world title.Autobarn wrote:that's it, let's wait for john murray and carl froch to "turn their backs on the UK" due to fan hatred and bitternesskingfinn wrote:I think what he said is right, Frochs got a big mouth and so has john murray, there the working mans champions and you just have to read some of the comments on this forum to see people hate khan because he's acheived something when murray hasnt. Maybe Khan should just smash up murray and shut his mouth for him. Unfortunatley we may have to wait for murray to become a world name, so the fight will probably take place in 2020 where some fighter have been replaced by robots and bionically enhanced women.
Same with Audley Harrison, the people in this country support the underdog and seem to hate the real champions or anyone who gets beaten at any point, if Calzaghe had been English rather than Welsh i bet he would have the same problem. The scots and the welsh always back their champions, and i remember when Calzaghe fought robin reed he got loads of flack from the english supporters.
don't go, lads! he din't mean it!
audley proved to be rubbish and amir was knocked out in a round on his PPV debut. you have a lot of faith?
'Cos it's sunnier elsewhere?Autobarn wrote:right, haye went to cyprus.
froch wanted to go spain
khan "threatens" to leave UK.
wonder why.
Well, it bloody well is..Autobarn wrote:this thread has got a lot of ppl sniping and i wonder if it has more to do with race and being PC. as if perhaps criticism of khan is all down to race. the ol' race card again? nah, can't be.
A boxer who will be very lucky to get past EBU title level. 
that last bit is pure conjecture. i totally disagree so we will have to see.Carlos-Wigan wrote:Well, it bloody well is..Autobarn wrote:this thread has got a lot of ppl sniping and i wonder if it has more to do with race and being PC. as if perhaps criticism of khan is all down to race. the ol' race card again? nah, can't be.
If Amir Khan was a white guy called Dave Smith and he won the olympic silver medal and boxed Koletniks head off to win the WBA world light welterweight title - there would be six million posts about him about his future superstar potential.
It has nothing to do about not being a fan - be a fan of who you want but when you start to talk about 'hating' a fighter then people need to get a grip.
The way he was booed in Vegas by his own countrymen - what the yanks must have thought is beyond me...
Everybody knows why... it doesn't take Einstein.
And when somebody does KO Khan - It won't be John Murray -
Couldn`t agree more. Is this jealously because Froch and Murray have total respect from boxing fans?
Frochs a clown and the most overated fighter in the UK, and murray is just trying to make a career for himself off khans back.
If murray spent as much time trying to get some decent fights as he does complaining that olympic and world champion amir khan hasnt wasted his time knocking him out, then he might get himself on the world stage and finally earn the chance to get in the ring with khan.
The problem is the english public like to blame there problems on everyone else getting it easier.. People on the council estates complain the polish are taking there jobs and what not. They could just get off their arses work hard, train hard and search for a job, but they would rather sit at home blaming their lives on others. Thats why murray is supported, because he sitts about complaining he's hard done by.
Thats how murray is, boo hoo khan doesnt have to fight for no money in small halls because hes got a silver medal and worldwide interest, poor me. He should be saying im going to smash up every fighter i meet, take the european title and then take a world title, then when ive got that it might be lucrative for Khan to fight me. Not khan should fight me for pennies when he could be earning millions and put his career on the line in a fight noone outside england cares about just so i might get on the world stage for it.
And then people complain that Khan is taking the easy route, when murray is trying to do the same thing but cant.
murray was in the same weight as khan, and it obviously is a big gain fight for him, so why is he out of order for wanting the fight?
one bad night and you utterly overreact saying Froch's britain's "most overrated". were you jumpig in that khan was overrated after being sent forward 5 minutes in time from a prescott barrage?
also, how would you know what "murray is trying to do", and how would you know "how much time" he is spending complaining about khan compared to the time he spends trying to get good opponents? i was under the impression that the promoter lines up the opponents. FFS, murray has been like Scrappy Doo, "let me at him, let me at him" in trying to get hold of even jon thaxton. do you know the frustration he and his trainer have had trying to get fights they want?
I don't normally go for insults but you're talking rubbish. & i had to change "wank" to rubbish.
Inventing things makes your argument redundant, you do know that don't you? If they were such weak punches, why was Frochy cringing away from them & getting rattled by them?Autobarn wrote:re froch. froch can't fight anyone with workrate or movement? funny, you use the world FIGHT. it looked to me that dirrell -the man with the movement - could neither fight nor box v froch. that running and those weak pea shooter punchers that stop short of target or simply touch the face isn't boxing. i
DD 
DDLol you talk some rubbish, you want to watch prize fighter level performances by the sounds of it. Dirrell clearly ran away form froch for the first 9 rounds but froch couldnt close him down (that doesnt exactly scream world class to me) and then when dirrell did decide to box he clearly beat dazzled and beat froch with ease. One more round like that and he would have won the fight.Autobarn wrote:re froch. froch can't fight anyone with workrate or movement? funny, you use the world FIGHT. it looked to me that dirrell -the man with the movement - could neither fight nor box v froch. that running and those weak pea shooter punchers that stop short of target or simply touch the face isn't boxing. it's a manufactured athlete terrifying himself through 12 jittery rounds.
you seldom see that level of negativity in world class boxing. it is a rarity, and i feel bad for froch, that his super 6 opener came vs such a horirble fighter.
can amir fight anyone with a punch? not long ago the Q was could he fight a domestic opponent who wasn't coming off a KO loss or moving up from 130...
many of dirrell's shots were not great punches. often they stop slightly sort of the target or simply bounce off targte uselessly as he doesn't try to hit THROUGH the target. they are flashy movie style shots with not a great deal of practical use. in boxing you are taught to hit through the targte, not at the target. dirrell is pulling back becfore the punch can land. he could be in the wrong sport because he refuses to risk getting hit.Datsue wrote:Inventing things makes your argument redundant, you do know that don't you? If they were such weak punches, why was Frochy cringing away from them & getting rattled by them?Autobarn wrote:re froch. froch can't fight anyone with workrate or movement? funny, you use the world FIGHT. it looked to me that dirrell -the man with the movement - could neither fight nor box v froch. that running and those weak pea shooter punchers that stop short of target or simply touch the face isn't boxing. i
A bit of hyperbole is all well & good, but I have finished talking to you as you seem divorced from consensus reality.
But those in the tenth & eleventh clearly troubled Froch. Were those movie-style shots? Does that mean Froch took them in a movie-style manner?Autobarn wrote:many of dirrell's shots were not great punches. often they stop slightly sort of the target or simply bounce off targte uselessly as he doesn't try to hit THROUGH the target. they are flashy movie style shots with not a great deal of practical use. in boxing you are taught to hit through the targte, not at the target. dirrell is pulling back becfore the punch can land. he could be in the wrong sport because he refuses to risk getting hit.
