Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

[alexpaterson]

he deserves some critisism BUT not as much as he get's! very good fighter.top 5 british greats

I agree with that

[J]

Has Flint fallen out of love with Big Mac and in love with Calzaghe?

I think people see him as a bit of fraud, ie pretending to be the best ever when hes not sort of thing even though hes a top class boxer. This is partly some of his fans on certain forums going overboard. People also dont like protected fighters

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mate sorry for the question but are you a bit, you know, simple?

[youngrell]

I can't think of a fighter which separates opinions as much as Calzaghe did and continues to do so in his retirement, most of the public either love him or loath him, but most boxing fans were just frustrated with his career and what he could've achieved (even though he achieved a lot anyway)

[Coco]

How has Enzo Macc been the victim of extreme jealousy?

Coco

Did Enzo Macc ever knock you out ?

He once bragged he use to knock out Swansea Bouncers and Doormen to show off to mates

Enzo is a nice guy, never put it about around town, and always lived the life, the last thing he ever did was look for trouble and in fact was very rarely seen in the city centre, decent family guy with better things to do. The only incident I know about him with a doorman was with a guy from Birmingham who was head of a clean up crew after all the doorman had been sacked from the club over drugs issues.
This fella is your typical 6 foot 6, 25 stone steriod monster who apparently is a bit of a kick boxer. He refused Enzo, 18 at the time, entry claiming he was drunk, Enzo replied he doesn't drink as he is in training and the doorman laughed in his face asking him what he was training for you skinny so and so etc. Enzo said he was a boxer and the fella just continued to laugh so Enzo knocked him cold with one shot.

[n1ebf]

How has Enzo Macc been the victim of extreme jealousy?

Coco

Did Enzo Macc ever knock you out ?

He once bragged he use to knock out Swansea Bouncers and Doormen to show off to mates

Enzo is a nice guy, never put it about around town, and always lived the life, the last thing he ever did was look for trouble and in fact was very rarely seen in the city centre, decent family guy with better things to do. The only incident I know about him with a doorman was with a guy from Birmingham who was head of a clean up crew after all the doorman had been sacked from the club over drugs issues.
This fella is your typical 6 foot 6, 25 stone steriod monster who apparently is a bit of a kick boxer. He refused Enzo, 18 at the time, entry claiming he was drunk, Enzo replied he doesn't drink as he is in training and the doorman laughed in his face asking him what he was training for you skinny so and so etc. Enzo said he was a boxer and the fella just continued to laugh so Enzo knocked him cold with one shot.

...and they all lived happily ever after

[FLINT ISLAND]

How has Enzo Macc been the victim of extreme jealousy?

Coco

Did Enzo Macc ever knock you out ?

He once bragged he use to knock out Swansea Bouncers and Doormen to show off to mates

Enzo is a nice guy, never put it about around town, and always lived the life, the last thing he ever did was look for trouble and in fact was very rarely seen in the city centre, decent family guy with better things to do. The only incident I know about him with a doorman was with a guy from Birmingham who was head of a clean up crew after all the doorman had been sacked from the club over drugs issues.
This fella is your typical 6 foot 6, 25 stone steriod monster who apparently is a bit of a kick boxer. He refused Enzo, 18 at the time, entry claiming he was drunk, Enzo replied he doesn't drink as he is in training and the doorman laughed in his face asking him what he was training for you skinny so and so etc. Enzo said he was a boxer and the fella just continued to laugh so Enzo knocked him cold with one shot.

Ha ha

Nice story

[charlieb]

This thread title struck me as hilarious, repeatedly.

I'm not belittling it, I just keep cracking up everytime I see it. Your thread's become my stress ball.

[nobby_nobbins]

Calzaghe was always a hero of mine and I had the privilege of meeting the man a few weeks before his final fight. I can say he seemed as decent and amiable as I'd hoped. But I feel he committed one of the greatest sins of all - squandering one's talent. He fought some good opponents, but he was so supremely gifted he could have done a lot more. He preferred to sit in the comfort zone. For that reason, as much as I admired and still admire him, I am somewhat disillusioned.

[gemmell]

Calzaghe dresses in the finest silk shirts on TV shows

He is a good looking guy

He is young and fit

He is shagging that blonde dancer that most men would love to be in his position

37 years old - and retired - easy life

Multi million pound fortune

Achieved his goals - WBC / WBO /IBF / WBA Champion

Ring Light heavyweight Champion

46 fights = 46 wins

easy to see why people have the ugly green eyed monster towards the Welsh Warrior

jesus flint are you a bender or what

[Flav1]

Never really tested himself in his entire career, bar Kess and Eubank (and that doesn't count as any fighter at that stage would have backflipped for that chance.)

[n1ebf]

Never really tested himself in his entire career, bar Kess and Eubank (and that doesn't count as any fighter at that stage would have backflipped for that chance.)

so the second part of your sentence renders the first complete sh*te really doesn't it??

"barr Kess..."....oh, the man that's bashed everyone up in front of him and sent Darren Barker home from sparring beaten up allegedly...

and what of the "super middle Mike Tyson, Jeff stick another left hook on my chops Lacy"....that doen't count as a great win suddenly because Calzaghe utterly schooled him...

[FLINT ISLAND]

Calzaghe dresses in the finest silk shirts on TV shows

He is a good looking guy

He is young and fit

He is shagging that blonde dancer that most men would love to be in his position

37 years old - and retired - easy life

Multi million pound fortune

Achieved his goals - WBC / WBO /IBF / WBA Champion

Ring Light heavyweight Champion

46 fights = 46 wins

easy to see why people have the ugly green eyed monster towards the Welsh Warrior

jesus flint are you a bender or what

The stuff about Calzaghe dressing in the finest silk shirts on TV shows - is just taking the piss out of him a bit

Its him that looks a bit of a bender - dressed in a silk pink shirt - doing the tango - on national TV

He should have kept it macho and given Hopkins a rematch in Cardiff instead of bloody ballroom dancing

[Adamj1987]

Never really tested himself in his entire career, bar Kess and Eubank (and that doesn't count as any fighter at that stage would have backflipped for that chance.)

so the second part of your sentence renders the first complete sh*te really doesn't it??

"barr Kess..."....oh, the man that's bashed everyone up in front of him and sent Darren Barker home from sparring beaten up allegedly...

and what of the "super middle Mike Tyson, Jeff stick another left hook on my chops Lacy"....that doen't count as a great win suddenly because Calzaghe utterly schooled him...

alot of people see it as lacy being exposed not calzaghe giving a master class to another suposed world champ

[FLINT ISLAND]

Never really tested himself in his entire career, bar Kess and Eubank (and that doesn't count as any fighter at that stage would have backflipped for that chance.)

So after 20 or 21 or 22 fights - he went straight in with World title vateran Chris Eubank - a fighter waaaaaaaaaaay above anyone else he had fought in his entire career before that and done the business.

Calzaghe was still a novice when he fought Eubank.

He beat Lacy - and Kelseer and unified the WBC / WBA / IBF World titles.

Lacy was 8/15 on to win the fight.

Calzaghe was 11/8 to win the fight - 15/8 on points like he did win the fight.

Then he went to America and in his first fight at Light Heavyweight he fought the NO1 Ring Champion and Modern great who was just coming off one of his most impressive ever performances in schooling Antonio Tarver.

And you reckon Calzaghe never tested himself ?

What did you want him to do ? - fight one of the Klitschko brothers

[FLINT ISLAND]

Never really tested himself in his entire career, bar Kess and Eubank (and that doesn't count as any fighter at that stage would have backflipped for that chance.)

so the second part of your sentence renders the first complete sh*te really doesn't it??

"barr Kess..."....oh, the man that's bashed everyone up in front of him and sent Darren Barker home from sparring beaten up allegedly...

and what of the "super middle Mike Tyson, Jeff stick another left hook on my chops Lacy"....that doen't count as a great win suddenly because Calzaghe utterly schooled him...

alot of people see it as lacy being exposed not calzaghe giving a master class to another suposed world champ

Easy to say that in hindsight

Everyone is a genous in hindsight

Hindsight is always in 20/20 vision

No-one had exposed Lacy up until then - he was destroying people

He got exposed because he was fighting someone who put on such a good performance a fighter who had previously dominated and knocked out most of his opponets didnt even win a round

But conviently - people will overlook what Calzaghe did - and just focus on how exposed Lacy was

The same would have happened if Calzaghe had exposed - Carl Froch or Chad Dawson , etc, etc

he beats them - but only because they were exposed

Refusing to give a man credit for winning a fight - real bad character there

[nobby_nobbins]

I agree Calzaghe should get the utmost credit for beating Lacy. He beat the number one light heavy in Hopkins too who, despite his age, is having one of the best periods of his career. The 39 year old Jones Junior went on to prove he was far from washed up. But if he'd pushed himself forwards like Froch, he would have hit the big time years earlier, with wins over D-man and a fresher Jones Jnr. I honestly think he could have got a Cruiserweight title as well. It was only when he watched Hatton fighting in the States that Calzaghe decided to really go for it.

[observer1]

I agree Calzaghe should get the utmost credit for beating Lacy. He beat the number one light heavy in Hopkins too who, despite his age, is having one of the best periods of his career. The 39 year old Jones Junior went on to prove he was far from washed up. But if he'd pushed himself forwards like Froch, he would have hit the big time years earlier, with wins over D-man and a fresher Jones Jnr. I honestly think he could have got a Cruiserweight title as well. It was only when he watched Hatton fighting in the States that Calzaghe decided to really go for it.

why should he get the "utmost credit" for beating Lacy?

He never was an established champion, and, im pretty sure people will agree, i doubt he ever will be one.

i also dont call taking a dodgy SD against a 43 year old winning.

39 year old RJJ proved to be "far from washed up" ?
Lol? how? he was dangerously KO'd about 5 years ago... TWICE.
Since then he has only faced E-Grade or Has beens. Now he wants to face a ridiculous old Hopkins (even at 45 he is taking the biscuit now).

typical idiotic fan.

[FLINT ISLAND]

why should he get the "utmost credit" for beating Lacy?

He never was an established champion, and, im pretty sure people will agree, i doubt he ever will be one.

i also dont call taking a dodgy SD against a 43 year old winning.

39 year old RJJ proved to be "far from washed up" ?
Lol? how? he was dangerously KO'd about 5 years ago... TWICE.
Since then he has only faced E-Grade or Has beens. Now he wants to face a ridiculous old Hopkins (even at 45 he is taking the biscuit now).

typical idiotic fan.

Your post is a example of the twisted bias against Calzaghe that I would label as the jealousy

Roy Jones was Ko'd by Tarver and Johnson after he dropped weight to come back down to Light Heavyweight

He has since shown that he is still a very ood fighter and has now readjusted at the weight

Joe beat him - and thats it - he has won every other fight - including stopping Jeff Lacy - something Calzaghe or Jermain Taylor were unable to do

Roy Jones is still a very capable fighter - he had a bad run - where he suffered them 2 KO losses - but judge his whole career and everyhting he has done since them losses

He is not the amazing fighter of the 1990's - but he is still a very good fighter who Calzaghe beat

And getting a split decsion over the No 1 Light Heavyweight in the World - is a excellent world class win

Calzaghe became only the 2nd man to decsion Hopkins in something like 15 years

[Autobarn]

Joe Calzaghe had a depressing career slump at a time boxing message boards were very active. ppl simply felt he didn't want to fight anyone and he didn't do too much to change that suspicion until the lacy fight. his career after that was sometimes sublime, sometimes effing ridiculous. for the hardcore fan, his career choices are pretty disappointing (but it turns out the alternatives i.e. dawosn, pavlik, weren't that great anyway). his greed and his cashing out were pretty obvious - with all his gurning and glee during the RJJ fight, which he "promoted" and "put on" a dreadful undercard before moaning that boxing will sink without ppl like him! - and there is a feeling that perhaps we never really saw his best. at one point being the "p4p #1" title was actually in reach and he never once reached out for it. more content with being "the best super middleweight ever", which is nothing like, say, being the "best MIDDLEweight ever." ok, he did beat a top 15 all time middleweight, hopkins. but: get the soft money where you can - dis id bidness. and it doesn't only apply to calaghe - mayweather wanting to fight mexican teenagers next?

[nobby_nobbins]

why should he get the "utmost credit" for beating Lacy?

He never was an established champion, and, im pretty sure people will agree, i doubt he ever will be one.

No-one was saying that before the fight. Show me your prediction that Calzaghe would have an easy night with him? Like it or not, Lacy was a champion that most "experts" picked to win. It's a bit strange to denigrate Calzaghe because he was dominant. Perhaps he'd have got more props if he'd had to pick himself off the floor to scrape a split decision?

i also dont call taking a dodgy SD against a 43 year old winning.

The fact that he was 43 is irrelevant. Hopkins went on to score one of his best victories ever after Calzaghe had finished with him. And while you don't call Calzaghe's performance winning, the judges and commentators did - maybe because they weren't blinded by hate like you. Small tip: learn to distinguish between a clumsy, ugly performance and losing - they're not the same thing.

39 year old RJJ proved to be "far from washed up" ?
Lol? how? he was dangerously KO'd about 5 years ago... TWICE.

True - he hasn't faced grade "A" opponents since Calzaghe, but Sheika and Lacy could still punch - and therefore would have posed a big threat to Roy if he'd been as shot as some people said he was. The fact that he trivially dismissed them in performances that were recognised by those not poisoned with bile as quite impressive, suggest he has something left in the tank. It may be that the bad knockout defeats several years ago had something to do with his massive weight loss coming down from heavyweight, than any terminal decline in punch resistance. That's his explanation anyway, and his performances since lend credence to it.

The best bit is that regardless of how much you grind your teeth, Calzaghe's legacy will gain more respect as time goes by, not less.

[DG.]

Calzaghe dresses in the finest silk shirts on TV shows

He is a good looking guy

He is young and fit

He is shagging that blonde dancer that most men would love to be in his position

37 years old - and retired - easy life

Multi million pound fortune

Achieved his goals - WBC / WBO /IBF / WBA Champion

Ring Light heavyweight Champion

46 fights = 46 wins

easy to see why people have the ugly green eyed monster towards the Welsh Warrior

jesus flint are you a bender or what

I think he might be!