Haye vs Tua

SnoopyLoopy · Post by **SnoopyLoopy** » 07 Nov 2009, 20:01

I wonder if Haye owuld have the balls to fight the man who destroyed ruiz in 14 seconds rather than ruiz.

Tua KO1.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 07 Nov 2009, 20:04

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Who has Tua beat in the last ten years to deserve a title shot?
The little hobbit can get in line I say.

Fact is...

David Haye- WBA Heavyweight Champion Of The World.

TheDrowningMan · Post by **TheDrowningMan** » 07 Nov 2009, 20:10

Tua could definitely KO Haye if he landed bang on the button with his left hook.

Haye might just be able to KO Tua at this stage as well. And he has two hard hitting hands. Consider that for a moment.

craigjenkins05 · Post by **craigjenkins05** » 07 Nov 2009, 20:11

yiddo14 wrote:ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

The little hobbit can get in line I say .

david tua is the most dangerous puncher in the divison IMO well atleast if he has half the power he used to but still there alot of people more deserving atm

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 07 Nov 2009, 20:13

boring, can no one think of anythig better?

ruiz actually had better career than tua, and he's likely next.

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 07 Nov 2009, 20:13

yiddo14 wrote:ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Who has Tua beat in the last ten years to deserve a title shot?
The little hobbit can get in line I say.

Fact is...

David Haye- WBA Heavyweight Champion Of The World.

We know he is the champion. Now he has to defend his title. Tua has a great chin and great power. He would be able to take Haye's punches and if he connects its over. Haye would need to put on a skillful display of boxing skills and get on his bike like he did tonight. His hand speed would allow him to land routinely and put rounds in the bag but it all comes down to if he gets caught or not.

tobyh5 · Post by **tobyh5** » 07 Nov 2009, 20:14

He will fight Ruiz because uhm HE HAS TO!!!!

It is a mandatory fight, Ruiz stepped aside for this fight to happen.

What a dumb thread.

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 07 Nov 2009, 20:15

tobyh5 wrote:He will fight Ruiz because uhm HE HAS TO!!!!

It is a mandatory fight, Ruiz stepped aside for this fight to happen.

What a dumb thread.

Ya, but ppl like discussing hypothetical matchups.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 07 Nov 2009, 20:17

crusader wrote:
yiddo14 wrote:ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Who has Tua beat in the last ten years to deserve a title shot?
The little hobbit can get in line I say.

Fact is...

David Haye- WBA Heavyweight Champion Of The World.

We know he is the champion. Now he has to defend his title. Tua has a great chin and great power. He would be able to take Haye's punches and if he connects its over. Haye would need to put on a skillful display of boxing skills and get on his bike like he did tonight. His hand speed would allow him to land routinely and put rounds in the bag but it all comes down to if he gets caught or not.

In your opinion.

Please tell me, what the hell has Tua done to deserve a title shot?
WHen was the last time he beat a top 10 contender?

You will be searching a long time for that.

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 07 Nov 2009, 20:19

yiddo14 wrote:
crusader wrote:
yiddo14 wrote:ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Who has Tua beat in the last ten years to deserve a title shot?
The little hobbit can get in line I say.

Fact is...

David Haye- WBA Heavyweight Champion Of The World.

We know he is the champion. Now he has to defend his title. Tua has a great chin and great power. He would be able to take Haye's punches and if he connects its over. Haye would need to put on a skillful display of boxing skills and get on his bike like he did tonight. His hand speed would allow him to land routinely and put rounds in the bag but it all comes down to if he gets caught or not.
In your opinion.

Please tell me, what the hell has Tua done to deserve a title shot?
WHen was the last time he beat a top 10 contender?

You will be searching a long time for that.

I don't think he has earned a shot, just like many challengers are unworthy in my opinion. But Tua's attributes and Haye's weaknesses would make Tua a live opponent even at this stage if the fight were to happen, no matter if Tua deserved it or not.

tobyh5 · Post by **tobyh5** » 07 Nov 2009, 20:21

Davids vulnerability would make any fight against a fighter who has slightly decent punching power an interesting proposition!

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 07 Nov 2009, 20:23

I didn't say Haye would beat him. My problem is Tua doesn't deserve a title shot.

Get in line Tuaman. He is nothing more than a top 30 fighter looking for an easy title shot at this stage. There are dozens of them.

Earn it.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 07 Nov 2009, 20:37

Autobarn wrote:boring, can no one think of anythig better?

ruiz actually had better career than tua, and he's likely next.

Did he bollox

U.F.O · Post by **U.F.O** » 07 Nov 2009, 20:42

OH my god, that is all is have to say

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 07 Nov 2009, 20:45

U.F.O wrote:OH my god, that is all is have to say

Why? Haye isn't suddenly beyond everyone now that he has an alphabet strap. If Tua beats Meehan in a fight that has rumored to potentially take place he will have a high ranking within the WBA, and could be up for a title shot. Do you think he presents less of a challenge than Haye's first challenger?

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 07 Nov 2009, 21:06

The way I remember it Lennox Lewis beat Tua 12 rounds out of 12 without taking 1 solid hit. And that was 10 years ago.

I think Haye might have a slim chance here..

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 08 Nov 2009, 02:54

yiddo14 wrote:ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Who has Tua beat in the last ten years to deserve a title shot?
The little hobbit can get in line I say.

Fact is...

David Haye- WBA Heavyweight Champion Of The World.

It's amazing how Tua has been dragged up from out of the blue to become the next HW champion (again)!

Saying that, I do believe he'd destroy David Haye though.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 08 Nov 2009, 06:27

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
Autobarn wrote:boring, can no one think of anythig better?

ruiz actually had better career than tua, and he's likely next.
Did he bollox

tua was a massive letdown vs lewis and byrd. the 2 fights he'll be remmebered for.

he lost his great fight to ibeabuchi. he almost lost to izon and maskaev and rahman because he can't get started fast enough.

ruiz, perhaps because he went with king, got opportunities, won title fights. which unfortunately is far more than tua has done. despite the fact that tua smashed him up in a few seconds. admittedly ruiz had his share of humiliations, outboxed by natural super middles/light heavies jones and toney. but the fact is he made more of his career than tua, was a more succesful fighter, made more of the (limited) ability that he has.

ruiz is an alright first defense. he's around haye's size, and this should allow haye to showcase his sharp, sudden and fast punching. he'll have to work hard to not get mauled, but he will do the business.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 08 Nov 2009, 06:29

Syntax Error wrote:
yiddo14 wrote:ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Who has Tua beat in the last ten years to deserve a title shot?
The little hobbit can get in line I say.

Fact is...

David Haye- WBA Heavyweight Champion Of The World.
It's amazing how Tua has been dragged up from out of the blue to become the next HW champion (again)!

Saying that, I do believe he'd destroy David Haye though.

i wouldn't. i'd pick haye AND adamek to decisively beat tua. tua is so slow and won't be able to handle either man's punch-and-step-to-the-side-quickly style.

haye has shown he can do 12 rds at heavyweight and would beat the fat fringe contender that is david tua. he can't TAKE the shots, but he can box a solid fight to AVOID enough of them.

SnoopyLoopy · Post by **SnoopyLoopy** » 08 Nov 2009, 06:37

Autobarn wrote:
Syntax Error wrote:
yiddo14 wrote:ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Who has Tua beat in the last ten years to deserve a title shot?
The little hobbit can get in line I say.

Fact is...

David Haye- WBA Heavyweight Champion Of The World.
It's amazing how Tua has been dragged up from out of the blue to become the next HW champion (again)!

Saying that, I do believe he'd destroy David Haye though.
i wouldn't. i'd pick haye AND adamek to decisively beat tua. tua is so slow and won't be able to handle either man's punch-and-step-to-the-side-quickly style.

haye has shown he can do 12 rds at heavyweight and would beat the fat fringe contender that is david tua. he can't TAKE the shots, but he can box a solid fight to AVOID enough of them.

lol, and you criticise Khan

gemmell · Post by **gemmell** » 08 Nov 2009, 06:50

haye would destroy tua. too fast too powerful

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 08 Nov 2009, 06:51

so haye has had 2 dull fights in his career - v abdoul (remember maloney's face at ringside, LOL) and v valuev. interestingly, valuev is always in the dull fights. haye has been in some thrillers (thompson, mormeck, fragomeni), has scored some scintillating early KOs (macca, gurov), so i think we can give him a pass.

to be honest, i'm glad both khan and haye have found a style that can cover up their sole limitation - durability. british boxing needs its stars and thankfully we have 3 world champs at the moment.

don't forget, khan beat kotelnik, and i rated kotelnik, and while i'm not bothered about khan, i can appreciate that he is a successful sportsman (if hardly the blockbuster star some think he is). it is easier to root for haye v a 7 foot goliath, than it is to root for khan who bullied many super feathers. this is an unfair comparison by myself, but my main image of khan is fighting super feathers. i'm sure this image will fade, when he beats more top lightwelters, mind.

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 08 Nov 2009, 06:54

Troll thread

el_grande_mauro_mina · Post by **el_grande_mauro_mina** » 08 Nov 2009, 07:16

yiddo14 wrote:Please tell me, what the hell has Tua done to deserve a title shot?
WHen was the last time he beat a top 10 contender?

Get with the times!

That is soooooooooooooo 1970s!

banjo · Post by **banjo** » 08 Nov 2009, 07:33

What did Haye do to warrant a title shot?

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